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The Observer: Responds to Satan On Motswako

Written by TheObserver from the blog TheTVObserver on 21 Oct 2008
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Dear Guests... I would like to thank you for taking the time to respond to my blogs. I however felt that the “Satan on Motswako” blog warranted me to address certain comments made by my guests. I thank you again for your interesting comments which I enjoyed reading “every single one of then”.

Let’s make one thing clear, this Satanic stuff is VERY HECTIC and I was very frustrated by MOTSWAKO’S INABILITY to provide viewers information which is critical to try and understand. Better yet deal with this situation if it happens in their household.

I put together the information most of you read on the blog within an hour and managed to get very interesting data. I believe strongly that this Satanic mess is WRONG and I will not impose my opinion to others. All I wanted was to illustrate that the show did not offer much needed information.

I felt that there are lot of people like me, who strongly believe that they do want to be faced with either their child or family member in the same situation as that lady and no information to deal with this mess.

PLEASE NOTE THAT I WILL CONTINUE TO RESPOND AND DISCUSS YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS BLOG.

If you haven’t read the comments or the actual blog please CLICK HERE

THE OBSERVER OFFICIALLY RESPONDS

Reply from: TheLady 10/21/2008 7:41:50 AM
Don't bite my head off-what kind of a church is the Universal Church?

Well, I have a very strong faith which is exclusively towards GOD ---ONLY! However with that said, I don’t think Universal Church is one of these satanic churches but then again I don’t what they do at that church. I now is that people are desperate and will do anything for relief. Here is couple of links you may find interesting:

1) http://www.cultnews.com/?cat=150

2) http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Universal_Church_of_the_Kingdom_of_God_-_Controversies/id/2025310

3) http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=vn20051210110746818C430749

But TheLady we should also not forget that there are lot of churches we are suspect because they are not our norm like Morman, Scientology and many others. The dragon business is just too much for my liking, THANK YOU! Shugga babe, thanks for that link.

Reply from: odie 10/21/2008 8:40:35 AM
great article the Observer. i watched the program but was wondering why ddnt the lady help her daughter because she mentioned that the daughter used to tell them things that they did - like drinking blood instead of water.

Thanks odie, I however think that like most parents she got caught up in her life and family but could not identify what was screaming ALERTS! Which is why I thought the program would have helped prevent that from ever happing again.

Reply from: Toxic 10/21/2008 8:44:18 AM
For the 1st time i can't finish reading your article.....too hectic!

Dear Toxic and Best-Achiever, I should think that you guys could not finish mainly because the article was too “Hectic” and not because “I have lost two readers”. Trust me, it was also FREAKY for me but I felt the show should have at least had some form of solution in the MIX.

Reply from: Shuga babe 10/21/2008 9:21:50 AM
I coudn't sleep last night, I was so touched by that parent's story tjo ukuphepha akukho in this earth!!!!!!!!!! sooooooo sad.

Shugga babe (cool name by the way), I cant read and understand the part after story but I can deduct that you had sympathy for the lady which proves my point that, everyone who watched had empathy for the lady but what if it happens to you? Did the show help you be alert or just terrify you ass off? That was my concern!

Reply from: funkyziemz 10/21/2008 9:38:02 AM
The Lady: i had the same mentality about Universal Church after a coupla school kids in Umtata where I come from got sick...it is not a Satanist Church! they hev a different way of doing things just like any church i.e. ZCC & uShembe.

Funkymez thanks for that prespective! I agree we have a lot of churches who are very different and we may not be used to it but the question if how do we know any church is Sattanic?

Reply from: Dimago 10/21/2008 9:41:04 AM
I watched this show and it got me scared. I slept with the lights on and the bible next to me...

Ahhhhhhh Dimago, I am sorry. When wrote this article I could swear I felt some weird stuff going on in my surroundings. It was kinda weird. It is scary stuff. Hoe I didn’t scare you more with my blog, if I did I please accept my humble apologies.

Reply from: maddie 10/21/2008 9:56:25 AM
i read the whole article and it makes a lot of sense Observer. there's no point in feeling sorry for the woman when you can't offer a solution to those affected. the producers could have done more, what they did was to scare people, that's all. I have one question, we as Africans we speak to ancestors, by slaughtering goats and doing all these rituals, is that demonic?

Maddie, thanks. I was alarmed at first that guests got the wrong end of the stick. Well about your question. A lot of people in South Africa sacrifice something or the other (you know humans, they harvest body parts or sacrifice animals) and everyone claims it has been part of their culture and tradition for a long time. Do I think its wrong YES! However parents and grand parents enter into these scarifies to appease these spirits and as a result they build up a give and take relationship, which is unfortunately inherited by their kids or grand children. That’s why people would say, your father supposed to a “X” he didn’t so the honours is on you or you will DIE or your kids will DIE. Not to mention that the minute you appease you have opened PANDORA. It’s a pity because true prophets and believers know how to cut those people from those ties so that they leave normal and happy lives in the glory of GOD! Think about this Maddie --- Belief is what you THINKl Faith is what you KNOW IS TRUTH In fruition Belief and Faith are lost because you will stand hand in hand with GOD! - knowing the TRUTH

But then again The Lady may very well have a different take on the subject as demonstrated in the comments. Lastly I think reading the book may just help you or traumatize you… you;ll have to make your own choice.

Reply from: Orie 10/21/2008 10:17:31 AM
this article is scaryyy !!!!!!! I cant continue

Orie can you imagine what I went through compiling it! It was not fun…. But in the interest of advancing information knowledge I delivered. I am sorry it offered you scare but not insight

Reply from: carino 10/21/2008 10:28:29 AM
After TshaTsha last night.... something juts prompted me to switch my TV off... I was tempted to switch back on at 9:30 to watch Motswako, but again something just said i shouldn't..... Now I know that little voice was the Holy Spirit....

The Lord works in mysterious ways…. I am glad you you visited my blog because It probably offered you more information than MOTSWAKO would have last night.

Reply from: Mathaz 10/21/2008 10:31:51 AM
Great article, i missed the show but i know that the devil has been defeated and no weapon formed against me and my family shall prosper.
10/21/2008 10:36:21 AM
What i know is that Jesus said that the dead should speak to the dead and that the ancestors do not communicate to Jesus Chirst on our behalf.

I agree with you "In Thy Presence" we are held tight and safe. I think Pooky would agree.

Reply from: pitch 10/21/2008 10:37:53 AM
I didnt see the show last night but i heard about it. Observer, that was something scary but i think i need to hear more from the book. We should just keep on praying so that we wont be driven from our belief to our Mighty God.

Thanks pitch, yes the book might be an interesting read.

Reply from: Petticash 10/21/2008 11:22:48 AM
I watched the show as well and I think the programme helped to expose the evil other world that is with us but many of us are ignorant or spiritualy blind to discern.

Ignorant and Spiritually blind is the perfect was for me to explain the situation most are in. About the accident, can you imagine? I have always wondered why certain accidents did not make any sense how they happened. I guess now we know.

Reply from: Sana Lwam 10/21/2008 11:37:37 AM
>>>>>Reply from: TheLady 10/21/2008 10:00:02 AM
Thanks Tox--->Relay, you should learn to shut the f&*k up if you can't help.
TheLady are you now possesed by this whole satan talk

C'mon  guys play NICE! We are all entitled to our views without being send to the gallows

Reply from: Feza 10/21/2008 11:52:54 AM
Gees, you even went to a Satanic website? is this Demonic or what?

Het Feza…all in the name of finding the truth or at least more reliable information! Anyway, I think this subject is very HECTIC!

Reply from: PY 10/21/2008 11:54:45 AM
I did'nt watch the show.....my questions are....

I am sure someone else may answer question better than I can. I am just tired and exhausted. As for the church, I think if you instincts scream ALERT… RUN BABY RUN….. FAR AND FAR AWAY. But LM tried.

Reply from: InHisShadow 10/21/2008 1:12:44 PM
Also, as for the article. I think in as much as the observer does not her/himself give points to help the reader, there is some valuable information in there that i would suggest everyone takes a look at, like this Magus person.

InHisShadow, I believe I am an observer and I observed a program which did not give millions of viewers any information on what is a serious epidemic on faith and life in general. I mentioned in the blog that I found that information in an hour. I am very comfortable in my FAITH IN THE ALMIGHT GOD and IN THY PRESENCE, I remain blessed every single second and days of my life. Its pity someone people are lost in this world and become victims. And ANYONE who tells me to look to anything else or additionally for my salvation and worship....can go hang! HAHAHAHAHAH …..

Reply from: carino 10/21/2008 1:21:37 PM
What do you guys think of IPC?? Modise?

Carino much has been said about MODISE, the stories alone could very good to fill a 26part super natural series and although I have not been to that church. I have always respected how MODISE grew his church into a formidable organization which provides great building for his congregation and prevent under the bush or open air, type gatherings. I remember when he was interviewed and he made statements that “he fries his members”. I spend the whole evening how traumatized thinking of how he “fries people”. I don’t think he meant it laterally thou, it was like inducting them into the religion. They are also anti-ancestors and animal scarifies etc.

Reply from: maddie 10/21/2008 1:51:25 PM
there r some things that we do as Africans that don't make sense. the worse part of all these, is that u're not allowed to question things, u just do them. i believe that faith or whatever u believe in as a person should be questioned, therefore tested to see if it's real.

Maddie you very correct, not black people alone, even other races including white people. It seems when someone starts by saying they have certain abilities which are supernatural, everyone just believes without question and PRESTO we have a cult, new religion, new church, new organization you name it. They then start calling themselves prophets…, With so many prophets I wonder why we have so many Satanic murders, etc.

when my mom passed, i wanted some closure, some message from her, something i can live by and after the funeral i had a dream about her, and in that dream i was so excited to see her, that finally i'll get the message/closure i was looking for, and she looked at me and told me to leave her alone, and that she's tired and wanted to rest.

Firstly, I am sorry about loosing your mother. It can't be easy.

About the dream.......NO disrespect but you got to admit it was disappointing and funny nonetheless. Unfortunately for most; this is where the devil takes charge.

Reply from: LM 10/21/2008 2:30:38 PM
Inhisshadow: surely you didn't read the whole bible. Jesus christ used oil and water for many things, amongst them healing!

Interesting LM what about the time Jesus spit on the ground to use mud to cure the blind man not to mention the popular holy sea where thousands came to go into the water to be cured, and the man who spend 38years (I think) next to the sea trying to enter with no luck. We should also remember that Jesus used to ask those needing healing “if they had faith” first

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57 Comments

Toxic
21 Oct 2008 09:45

you haven't lost a reader, don't worry!!

carino
21 Oct 2008 09:52

WOW...

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 09:53

Thanks TOXIC..... I guess I forget about my plan to take those pills, hahahahaha

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 09:54

I meant, I will forget about.......my plan > Hahahahaha

InHisShadow
21 Oct 2008 09:55

[Reply from: LM 10/21/2008 2:30:38 PM
Inhisshadow: surely you didn't read the whole bible. Jesus christ used oil and water for many things, amongst them healing!


Interesting LM what about the time Jesus spit on the ground to use mud to cure the blind man not to mention the popular holy sea where thousands came to go into the water to be cured, and the man who spend 38years (I think) next to the sea trying to enter with no luck. We should also remember that Jesus used to ask those needing healing “if they had faith” first

By The Observer ]

We talking about Jesus using oil and water like they practice in some churches, my issue with these practices is that...yes, LM, Apsostle Paul does encourage anointing oil for the sick, however, what i have observed happen is that, the person who gets the oil, then trust the oil/water/salt MORE that God. And uses it repetitively in the hope of a healing (most of the time), and I am still to be convinced that Jesus used these in his time here, he laid hands...unless we conclude the spit to be water?

InHisShadow
21 Oct 2008 09:56

Observer - you appear to be grounded in the faith! No wonder you saw the need to write this article...

Toxic
21 Oct 2008 09:57

LOL, Ob!

Cande
21 Oct 2008 09:58

i was about to ask gore why doesnt theObserver never replied to his/her articles

Pooky
21 Oct 2008 09:59

you really are an observer neh.......

Sana Lwam
21 Oct 2008 10:04

Reply from: Sana Lwam 10/21/2008 11:37:37 AM
>>>>>Reply from: TheLady 10/21/2008 10:00:02 AM
Thanks Tox--->Relay, you should learn to shut the f&*k up if you can't help.
TheLady are you now possesed by this whole satan talk


C'mon guys play NICE! We are all entitled to our views without being send to the gallows 

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Sorry Observer

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 10:07

>>Thanks InHisShow. Even thou I have a strong faith I don't believe in  showing it off or making other feel bad becuase they are not. I share what I can when I can and let people make thier own choices.
>>>>I know Toxic..... hahahaha
>>> Cande, well its part of my world. I observer. You see I have already broken code.....LOL
>>> Pooky.... thanks.... I love to observe people and thing more so TV than anything else. But comes in handy

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 10:09

Sana Lwam --- All in days work.....mmmmmmm

Shuga babe
21 Oct 2008 10:12

Reply from: Shuga babe 10/21/2008 9:21:50 AM
I coudn't sleep last night, I was so touched by that parent's story tjo ukuphepha akukho in this earth!!!!!!!!!! sooooooo sad.


Shugga babe (cool name by the way), I cant read and understand the part after story but I can deduct that you had sympathy for the lady which proves my point that, everyone who watched had empathy for the lady but what if it happens to you? Did the show help you be alert or just terrify you ass off? That was my concern! 
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@The Observer, You are absolutely right, it didn't hlp but scared the hell out of me yooooooo!!!!!!!! I can't beileve i didn't even watch my FAV Bollywood Movies.. *shaking*

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 10:13

PS: InHisShadow, All I could think of was "what if that happened to someone close to me?". "What would I have wanted to know in order to deal with this mess, better?". Its not easy, granted and it's not like you can walk into a hospital and say.., Sorry doctor my daughter has a problem and PRESTO, she will be cured. It's tough mainly becuase people are lost in their beliefs and faith. It's like they've become the most fertile soil for the DEVIL. Hence I felt I needed to address this ASAP

DJ Why why
21 Oct 2008 10:15

The show was scary, i could not finish it. Yho, that is scary stuff at a hoste (sheppie high) was this gal and she was hearing voices....eish! tow gals in fact ....me was really scared so no more De Ja Vus...am OUT....

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 10:16

Shuga Babe... hahahaha. On a serious note, it was scary. I agree.... "shaking" hahahahahahahahahaha

Simmone
21 Oct 2008 10:17

Even thou I have a strong faith I don't believe in showing it off or making other feel bad becuase they are not. I share what I can when I can and let people make thier own choices. 

And that truly shows in your blogs, I kept my fingers crossed when the issue about African customs came up and you handled it well.

About the subject at hand, I have some what diverse views and at some point may contradict myself so would rather be the reader on this one.

Shuga babe
21 Oct 2008 10:22

"Shuga Babe... hahahaha. On a serious note, it was scary. I agree.... "shaking" hahahahahahahahahaha"  hahaahah!!!!!!!! OK phela mina I have a Daughter so Satanism I'm

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 10:23

Simmone, thanks for your comment. At the core of our creation is free will and that is wrapped in love, respect and kindness. I try keep that in mind throughout mylife. I would, however, love to read your contradictory opinions.  After all thats why we here. Thanks thou

Pooky
21 Oct 2008 10:24

Observer Google Emmanuel Eni...he  too was delivered from the powers of darkness...the things that man says yoh it just goes to prove that evil really does exist and that the devil will find the tiniest loop hole to try and manipulate you and he will use whaterever and whomever to win you over, especially money................

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.(John 10 vrs 10)
 the devil has no free gift! Whatever he gives you is for an exchange with your soul.
 
and that is why i still say "Greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world"

Dimago
21 Oct 2008 10:26

All I could think of was "what if that happened to someone close to me?"
Me too...and i was not planning on praying last night. But I immediatley prayed for all my family members and confessing scriptures and rebuking the devil...hey, it was tough!!!

Shuga babe
21 Oct 2008 10:26

"Shuga Babe... hahahaha. On a serious note, it was scary. I agree.... "shaking" hahahahahahahahahaha" : TheObserver hahaahah!!!!!!!! OK phela mina I have a Daughter, I don't need Satanism anywhere near her. 

(cool name by the way),Thanks TheObseeee!!!!!! *with Qween of Generations' voice*

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 10:27

Shuga Babe.....I know what you mean. This whole business makes you feel very horrible when you have a daughter and there you are watching another women talk about how she lost her own daughter in her house, by her own shoe laces. That's horrible, all because the Devil claimed a seat in your home. I hope this blog and some comments from guests helped you be more alert.

Dimago
21 Oct 2008 10:30

Respek to you Observer!

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 10:30

Pooky -  Thanks,I will do that later, a, still trying to recover. Shuga Babe are your reading what Pooky wrote. It bring back the shakes, I tell Ya!

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 10:32

Dimago I hear you LOUD and CLEAR...... It just that people often think this is not happening to me and we become ignorant of what is happening outside our yards and homes.

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 10:34

DImago thanks for tham (below)
Reply from: Dimago 10/21/2008 4:30:30 PM

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Respek to you Observer!

LM
21 Oct 2008 10:40

he he he he, finally  found where you posted Toxic. I kept on refreshing the main article n nothing happened....I thought the satanic things were playing mind game with me..shuuuuu!

Toxic
21 Oct 2008 10:45

LM, o re eng? Where did u think i was posting?

Shuga babe
21 Oct 2008 10:48

TheObserver,  Really I was not aware of Satanism until last night. I think we need Awareness so we can see Symptoms before its too late like Ntombikayise* Gaad Bless her soul*  from now on I'm gonna make sure my daughter drinks water. Thanks again TheObseee!!!!!!

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 10:49

LM ......hahahaha

Toxic
21 Oct 2008 10:57

from now on I'm gonna make sure my daughter drinks water

LOL @ SB!!

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 10:57

Shuga babe.... Hence I felt the show could have done better. I am sure Carol and company, thought that what they did would bring awareness. Please note that even when you commit suicide you are not free of their hold, in fact you make it easy. Hence those prayers are done when someone die, like the Jewish ones, are critical to protect your sould after death. From the "Pirates of The After Life".

After she drinks water you "teach her to wash her hands, so that when she becomes a doctors she isn't  suprised but buys you big present in gratitute." I hope you get it!
 
PS: i don't mean to scare you more.

Pooky
21 Oct 2008 11:09

Pooky - Thanks,I will do that later, a, still trying to recover. Shuga Babe are your reading what Pooky wrote. It bring back the shakes, I tell Ya!

then i advise you do not read it at night sani LOL....but if you strong in the Almighty then dont worry about them shakes and dont fear.....

F- false
E- evidence
A- appearing
R- real

so dont FEAR

Toxic
21 Oct 2008 11:27

pOOKY, PRINTED the Emmanuel Emi thing from the net-will be reading it during SYTYCD ad breaks

LM
21 Oct 2008 11:30

Toxic, I thought you have posted on the main blog (The satan on Motswako...) and at that time I was reading replies there. I saw that you'v just responded but your comment was nowhere to be found even when I refreshed the page...so yaahh! LOL.

LM
21 Oct 2008 11:33

pOOKY, PRINTED the Emmanuel Emi thing from the net-will be reading it during SYTYCD ad breaks: Are you sure you'll be able to sleep without having nightmares, Toxic?

Toxic
21 Oct 2008 11:38

Oh, now i get it! The Emmanuel reading....between 7.00- 7.30 while SYTYCD is on. After that, i'll leave it for tomorrow.

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 11:58

Pooky, I just finished reading an interesting link from this site http://spiritlessons.com/dreams_and_visions/Dilivered_from_the_powers_of_Darkness_by_Emmanuel_Eni.htm.

ps: read this article at your own mental risk.

Toxic make sure have all your light ON! That thing is very creepy. LM is right, that thing is disturbing . Shuga babe, don't read that thing, you won't shake this time, you will faint.

But, Pooky don't you find it interesting the similarities in South African cultures and tradition  especially when we goes into addressing African customs which ae breeding ground for Demons.  The stories of  Alice and her being transperent in front of him. The blood and the red cloths.... sounds creepy A-GRADE.  Pooky you have just SPOOKED ME BIG TIME  by sending me to that googled article. Now I know why some guys said HECTIC and could not continue. MAN oh MAN!

maddie
21 Oct 2008 12:05

Thanks InHisShow. Even thou I have a strong faith I don't believe in showing it off or making other feel bad becuase they are not. I share what I can when I can and let people make thier own choices. 

agree with u on this one, your writing and responses show how spiritually matured you are.

I believe in God and there r some things I question even in the bible, but that does not make me less of a believer. I don't go to church and I don't want people to tell me that i have to go to church because i don't think i'll get what i need in Church.

what i need and have right now is a personal relationship with my Father(God).

i don't judge othere people's belief, i question some of the principles in those belief systems, and u don't have to be emotional and defensive when i do or other people do that. with most beliefs even christianity it's like people have been hyponitised and i have a problem with that, u need to be sober when it comes to ur faith.


Ayobaness
21 Oct 2008 12:44

Trust me after last night's show I drank two litres of cold water and one of lukewarm..Just to make sure...I made sure than even if it had attempted coming even closer to my dick I'd piss it's black ass off..(it is black right?) Don bite my head off black peopleS...I need as much info as i can get..

I also think that the show could have done more to make people aware and how we can actually help those who are in such predicaments..but hey..Motswako ke Motswako!!!! i did laugh when Kele pulled the Oprah/ Felicia Mabuza card....I mean really..it's a good thing she did not cry. Ke ne ke tlore e se e motshwere le yena!!!

I gotta applaud the show for bringing this gruesome issue to the public domain...Well done on that..Rather do a follow-up and let people know what to do in such situations..and not give us some random cops' digits!!

I wish everyone had watched Event Horizon when they discussed this topic in detail and had someone who had first hand experience in this...I think even the mother would have done something about it..I know my mom would...

The woman on that show was so candid that you were bound to think twice about your own faith and what you really stand for.

This is really interesting!!And I hope that everyone is now on the verge of losing the little ignorance that's left in them about such things being myths and figments of imaginations.

Big-ups ObsevOuR...you trully know your stuff!! PUN INTENDED HEY!!!Surely this is all based on research and not experince or even experiments?!!

Ayobaness!!!!Ha ho noweng metsi bathong!!

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 13:15

Maddie. Thanks. I do agree with you that Church does not offer all the answers hence Jesus said the kingdom of god is not in the words or scriptures but in everything in and around you. The entire ministry of Jesus taught one main thing -- direct connection to GOD through FAITH! You can have faith without going to church more so, when we live an era where churches are just glorified FOR PROFIT organizations.

Although most are not, but it seems some are cashing in of JESUS and GOD. Corrupt is what I say. They are very political, petty and discriminate more than society. It is as if the filth has found a home in churches. True believers should rise up and be noted!  ASKING QUESTIONS is the foundation of a true FAITH.... (faith is knowing the truth) so I say ask away and ask till you are satisfied.

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 13:32

Ayobaness... hahahahahahahah two litres cold and lukewarm. You really didn't mess around you needed that devil to jumped out of you full baptized and ready to testify. Hahahahahahahahah

i did laugh when Kele pulled the Oprah/ Felicia Mabuza card....I mean really. I WAS SCREAMING WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING!!!!! Anyway, it is the MIX and she mixed us up.

Surely this is all based on research and not experience or even experiments?!! TRUST ME the entire blog was influenced by what I thought people needed to hear in order to save some lives. Not everyone has the type of FAITH I have. I felt that instead of just ripping the show to shreds let me do what do best. Observe and share... and here we are! TRUST ME I have not experimented and had first hand experience. NO WAY! You don't have to see someone take a dump to know that *bleep!* smells or what it looks like..

Pitilili
21 Oct 2008 15:39

Evening maBolger! I read the blgs almost everyday and realy enjoy them but I have decided to respond on the 'Stanasim' thing by The Observer. 

It is very hard and tricky, just on Sunday while I was home (rural) I was told of a strange funeral that was to proceed on Sunday morning and curiosly I decided to c 4 myself. Surprise!!!!! a 75 year old Inyanga (Traditional healer) was buried inside his consultation room (Indumba). What made matter worse was that he was burried while seated inside that house in a special made coffin. 
Women were not allowed to follow the herse and were instructed to stay inside the tent! 
A very long and hole was dung and the width was not normal. 
On the very Sunday pm I went to the home pretending to be asking for a certain home and I find the 'burial house's door open and there were two men infront. 
I vowed that I would never go anywhere near that home let alone the house..... ever in my life!!!!!

When I  investigated about the strange funeral some family members told me that the traditional healer instructed them to do just that failing which they would be cursed. 
Then the question (s) I had was why was there a night vigil with priests preaching the word of the Jesus Christ. 
I concluded that the man might be greedy in that he wanted to be in a house even when dead and that he was a satanism. 

What is the position with such a situation bloggers?

TheObserver
21 Oct 2008 16:05

Pitilili, thanks for joining us. Your story, which I assume is true, makes me think Shuga babe was on to something about the shakes thing.

All I can say is that we have a lot of these inyangas and sangomas who join churches which allow them to practice their ritualistic lifestyles or calling, and as a result you end up with a person who is in a church but they also appease gods and do sacrifices. We have a lot of these churches springing up from every corner. I personally believe that the Devil has found a way to monopolize churches and this may very well be an example. We are unfortunately live a country where its citizens have been so traumatized that certain cultures, enjoy questionable, have held them captive.

As for the way this person wanted to buried or was buried – THAT’S DOWN RIGHT HECTIC. You are brave to even try and find out what was going on. All I know is that these traditional healers are mostly buried by their own kind and true churches don’t bury traditional healers---PERIOD! That’s why some start their own churches. Because these people do things at the funeral which are not inline with any GOD fearing church, so I should think that you right to be alarmed and your instincts seem to have pointed you in the right direction.

As for the other stuff... I am sorry am not qualified; perhaps our guests can share their opinions on the matter.

Pitilili
21 Oct 2008 16:24

It is true!!!!!!. 
One of the newpapers published the 'strange funeral' on the Monday publication and surprise!!!!!!! the family members are said to be searching for the reporter, they said they did not want the thing publicised and vowed that the dead Inyanga would deal not only with the publication but even the reporter. Come to think of it man!!!!! 
I have thought that if she/he knows who she/he serves she/he would have no reason to fear the dead. 

Night till tomorrow1!!

Best-Achiever
22 Oct 2008 01:32

Dear Toxic and Best-Achiever, I should think that you guys could not finish mainly because the article was too “Hectic” and not because “I have lost two readers”. Trust me, it was also FREAKY for me but I felt the show should have at least had some form of solution in the MIX.

We are still here and will continue reading yor blogs ..just that this one was too much to handle

TheObserver
22 Oct 2008 05:15

Best Achiever  - Good to know!

Bebeza
22 Oct 2008 07:36

Hi PPL
Hmmmm. I'm scared the world is seriously coming to an end.............Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to Heaven!!! ...I dont mean to preach but guy jesus says ...."Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?" Psalm 94:16 
I am the way the truth and the life; NO MAN cometh unto the Father BUT BY ME." -- Jesus Christ (John 14:6)
 Lets keep on praying guys. Satan is so afraid of Jesus and God.
 

tshuta
22 Oct 2008 07:52

the observer keep it more up,really this is helpful,may you have more strength on issues like this.people like you are needed and helpful.

READ EMMANUEL EMI,DELIVERED FROM THE POWER OF EVIL.IT IS VERY SCARY,YES VERY SCARY, BUT VERY USEFUL,AND IT CAN CHANGE YOUR LIFE.

WE ARE LIVING IN A VERY DANGEROUS WORLD,BUT THE GOOD THING IS THAT WE HAVE THE DELIEVERER,SAVIOUR,HEALER,PROTECTOR,REDEEMER,COMFORTER, AND THAT IS JESUS. THIS LITTLE SATAN HE IS NOTHING BEFORE JESUS .

TheObserver
22 Oct 2008 07:56

Bebeza thanks for joining us on this subject and sharing scriptures. We live a crazy WORLD!

TheObserver
22 Oct 2008 08:08

Tshuta thank you very much. That website was a handful even for me. It just makes you reconsider those around you because it's not like they have signs on thier forehead which say "satan's child". Not to mention the making sure that you watch if people drink water or not, hahahahahahaha. So, we need more people to follow the creator and move away from the devil. We need ifnormation, SOUTH AFRICA is free politicaly but SPIRITUALLY SLAVED by all sorts of dark stuff.

AkaS
22 Oct 2008 10:37

Observer where can I get the book you're reading it really sound interesting. 

As ppl we must know that heaven is reality and hell is reality. 

TheObserver
22 Oct 2008 11:05

Hi AkaS

PS: I am NOT reading the book. I found the information as part of my research for the blog. I wanted to offer information which can make people more aware than what the program did. Which was scare people.

Here are some links from my research. To buy the book:

http://www.amazon.com/Magus-Thorrauna-Priest-Satan-South-Africa/dp/0595357091

Or if you want to order at one of the local sites

http://www.kalahari.net/page_templates/search.aspx?searchText=Magus-Thor%27rauna&debug=1&navigationid=632&displayShop=books

As for the website....

http://www.joyofsatan.org/

Finally, we are taught about Heaven and not about Hell in order to protect ourselves. We know we have to pray but never told how to pray to protect ourselves against EVIL. I would not recommend children to be taught this but a more child friendly version should be made available. So that famalies don't have to face this. EVER!

Thank you for joining us on this blog. PS: I did read your response on the main blog about this subject.

AkaS
23 Oct 2008 02:16

Many thanks TheObserver.

I want to have it just to understand some things in that wolrd of darkness. The bible says my people perish because of lack of knowledge. While we are the children of Light we need to understand more about other kingdoms as well.  And even when I pray I need to know spirits are operating and how and what to do to overcome.

Greater is He that is in us than the one operating in this world. People must fear nothing!

InHisShadow
23 Oct 2008 06:48

Just a word of caution about reading the books on the world of darkness, from own experience, please BE PREPARED - SPIRITUALLY.....I would suggest that one arms themselves first with what the word of God says about this topic, then additionally apply Eph 6:12-16. I for one at first hastily went and read Emmanuel Eni's excerpts - let me just say I knew after a few weeks that I should have prayed and applied the blood of Jesus on my mind - this stuff is hectic and infact i got the impression that when you read these things from a curiosity perspective - they are harmful, these things have a way of attaching themselves, and this is why we need the world of God so that when the enemy tries to plant a seed, be it of fear, confusion, anxiety etc......we are able to detect it and pull it down. All i am saying is be prepared....warfare is not childsplay...the moment you want to discover the enemy's tactics as a child of God, he goes all out to prevent you from knowing the truth and then just fights you.....be alert!

TheObserver
23 Oct 2008 07:44

InHisShaw you made yet another important point. People should note that this whole business of finding out information should be treated with great care and self understanding not to mention a strong position in one's FAITH. Yes find the truth but make you have your clothes on - "your FAITH in GOD", you cant do this naked  "without your FAITH".


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