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Behind the Rainbow - Decoding The Myth

Written by tha - bang from the blog Movies and Things with Thabang on 15 Dec 2008
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It came, it played and it passed, it got me thinking ; so dark is the con of the ANC that it has put over the country cause most that was covered in the doccie was very familiar to the South African audiance.Anyways those who've been paying attention anyhows ,ie the long friendship between Chief and Jiggaman, Thiboses clique menatlity and the fact that there struggle within the ANC is actually about power and individuals and has little to do with policy nor the general public.

But I believe the last point was highlighted very effectively that the shcism between Chief and Jiggaman has relegated policy development and implentation to the background and has put individuals at the fore. Now people are either voting fopr Jiggaman or against Thibos,its not about what the ANC is going to offer them. I believe in the long run its going to bite them in the butt come election time.

50 Comments

Cande
15 Dec 2008 07:32

The breakfast crew @ Metro are complaining about the joke made by Thabi Mbeki that Mandela's shoes are ugly..I mean really???
I know its a political duccie but we dont have to put politics in everything even a joke

mjj
15 Dec 2008 08:15

Cande you still listen to Metro?????? nc nc nc nc

Thabang - i'm glad the SABC showed the Documentary without censoring it....You are correct when you say that he new dispensation in SA politics is not about the policies, its just about the personalities involved......... No i will never vote for Zuma or No i will never vote for Mbeki....

It is very sad that the future of the country has been relageted to individual needs, but in anycase We should all be glad that everyone in our society is engaged in this political debate.

Big Thanks to Julius Malema for his utterances, now everyone is suddenly an expert in politics. I thank him because he has managed to engage our society in politics, he has managed to get young people of South Africa to take interest in politics. Thank You Julius..... (Can someone please hook me upi with this man, i would like to thank him in person)........

Beyonce
15 Dec 2008 08:23

I could help but notice that Terror Lekota had izisini (missing front teeth) as a young boy, but now he has a smile as bright as the snow he he he, your Dentist is damn good madala...

mjj
15 Dec 2008 08:27

Yes BS, his dentist is good......maybe i should ask him for the Dentist's numbers....i need them

Shuga babe
15 Dec 2008 08:28

<<(Can someone please hook me upi with this man, i would like to thank him in person)........>>  

@ mjj, Do u really mean this??? if u do. will PM u his details now 

Simmone
15 Dec 2008 08:30

Kudos’ to SABC2 for not succumbing to the powers that be and showed the doccie without censoring. That was gripping stuff

It got me thinking about three things.
1. Are the sunset clauses coming to bite black South Africans in the butt
2. Is the truth to the conspiracy theories about Chris Hani’s death
3. Can the ANC admit to selling poor South African’s down the river for a quick buck like Ronnie Kasrils and Parlo Jordaan did yesterday.

Teri 101
15 Dec 2008 08:33

<<<<<<<<<<<<Thabang - i'm glad the SABC showed the Documentary without censoring it....>>>> Timing is still questionable though

Beyonce
15 Dec 2008 08:33

@Mjj BS???, you so inlove with this lady you even call out her name when she's not even there... nc nc nc nc

Shuga babe
15 Dec 2008 08:40

<<@Mjj BS???, you so inlove with this lady you even call out her name when she's not even there... nc nc nc nc>>
LAMO @Beyonce..... hahahaha!!!!!!!

Teri 101
15 Dec 2008 08:43

<<<<<<1. Are the sunset clauses coming to bite black South Africans in the butt>>>>> Sunset clauses r neccessary in any negotiated setlements, its part of strategic negotiations...! What u do or not do later that becomes problematic! I do not believe 4 once that 'poorer South Africans are more poor now than they were b4 1994. If Zimbabweans (MDC) had accepted some compromises, the Zimbabweans would not be in the stuation they r in now, & MDC would be at better position to topple Mogabe with time...!

Cande
15 Dec 2008 08:44

Timing is still questionable though

Very questionable

Simmone
15 Dec 2008 08:53

Is it feasible Teri to put the same person who oppressed you, an enemy you are fighting in the position to control your economy, defence, home affairs and justice system and expect them to toe the line and suddenly be interested in singing kumbaya and hold hands with you? All these structures happen to be the weakness in your armour.

The MDC came to the table but ZanuPF was only interested in letting them smell the food than give them a piece.

Dimago
15 Dec 2008 09:01

I enjoyed this doccie a lot. Even though most of it was stuff i was familiar with, but it was all put into perspective last night.

Cande
15 Dec 2008 09:03

heheheh I dont blame Terror Lekota for opening a new party did u guys see how the ANC delegates treated him at the Polokwane conference last year?? His mouth was left wide-opened

Dimago
15 Dec 2008 09:03

I was always behind Thibos, but after last night it got me thinking...

myname
15 Dec 2008 09:08

I missed it mfiiiiiim...

Cande
15 Dec 2008 09:09

yeah Dimags, it got me thinking too..

Cande
15 Dec 2008 09:16

heheheh ANC has booked Seisa Ramabodu stadium for an event tomorrow.. The event happens the same day that the new party is launching in the same town Bloemfontein.
It is really getting ridicolous

nice
15 Dec 2008 09:20

@ Teri "I do not believe 4 once that 'poorer South Africans are more poor now than they were b4 1994."  Where in SA do you live? the number of unemployed people out there, and even though there are social grants, they are not much to help, so dear I have seen millions becoming poorer, it is sad that you have to rely on your beliefs when some of us has seen it.

I was always behind Thibos, but after last night it got me thinking...Dimago same here, I always saw him as an innocent person and was dragged in to the mud because of his "aloof" personality, but now I wonder who this man is. I liked how he refused to resort to popularism in his speech in Polokwane and remained the person he is. and they had to show us people sleeping with their mouths open, LOL.

One statement that was made by Maharaj left me to think, he said that the any political party is not evaluated by its intentions but by its outcomes. This made me realise that the ANC has adopted the freedom charter as it policies, but those policies are far from reality and its intentions and outcomes are not even close.

I did not know much about economic policies but from RDP, to GEAR and finally BEE. I liked how it was dissected and an analysis of how each one had flaws. Seeing that JZ wants to go back to RDP policies. what difference will they now have, and with what resources will these be achieved?

Dimago
15 Dec 2008 09:30

heheheh ANC has booked Seisa Ramabodu stadium for an event tomorrow.. The event happens the same day that the new party is launching in the same town Bloemfontein.
Really Cande...thats just childish...c'mon now...

Dimago
15 Dec 2008 09:37

I liked how he refused to resort to popularism in his speech in Polokwane and remained the person he is.and they had to show us people sleeping with their mouths open, LOL.
Yho that was HILARIOUS...

Sobza
15 Dec 2008 10:05

I was always behind Thibos, but after last night it got me thinking...

I am still behind him

realist
15 Dec 2008 10:12

Exactly what was the point of this documentary?

Timing is still questionable though 
Agreed

Cande
15 Dec 2008 10:19

lol@realist i came here running thinking u have given ur lengthy opinion on the documentary

carino
15 Dec 2008 10:29

Haibo... another 2 paragraph...

Kanti???

realist
15 Dec 2008 10:35

lol@realist i came here running thinking u have given ur lengthy opinion on the documentary
I was but I did not get the point for this doccie.

carino
15 Dec 2008 10:52

Okay.. realist... mna when i didnt get the point, I hoped that someone would actually sum it up for us and explain.... like i remember Observer did with that ANC press conference or whatever it was, that was on 1.

But now if noone got it.  what really was the point??

myname
15 Dec 2008 10:54

LOL Cande i wish u've seen my big red eyes running 4 the same reason hahahaha

realist
15 Dec 2008 11:32

But now if noone got it. what really was the point??
Exactly, what was really the point?

mjj
15 Dec 2008 12:39

SB i'm serious, please PM me the details

faraimagic
15 Dec 2008 12:41

we all know that we cant just choose A n C!

cuz-cuz
15 Dec 2008 12:50

@ Diamang i was always behind Thibos, but after last night it got me thinking...

i am not into politics at all, but i watched the doccie at the end i feel like u dimangs about Mbeki and that maybe Zuma is just misunderstood. but i dont know much about politics but got me thinking especially the arms deal part

mjj
15 Dec 2008 13:03

maar nam, i expected a lot from realist.......a 1 page analysis would have been fine, 2 page would have been great......

Timing or no timing, people like me were not around during the Polokwane Conference so it was nice to see what ANC delegates were thinking and doing in that conference.......

I'm just glad that our Society is taking an interest in politics again......it was very shocking adn hard to comprehend the lack of interest in Politics by young people.....

Renegade
15 Dec 2008 13:05

we all know that we cant just choose A n C!

I love that ad, well done again to Nandos!

On the doccie:
I was sort of watching, and sort of preparing for work, but what was important for me was:

1. Like Dimago, I'm starting to rethink Mbeki, as well as the Chris Hani conspiracy. When they were talking about the firing, and Zuma was being interviewed, Zuma made some valid points about how Mbeki was already saying Zuma must have his day in court, when he was not charged yet. For someone to say that, at that level, it comes out clearly as an instruction, and while Mbeki might not have meant in that way, I question that whole firing.

2. It scares me that we are literally at the hands of the people we vote into power. They decided how this country will function, who will get what and so on. I have always had this worry, but what really made it worse for me last night was the realisation that if we want to be heard by government, it seems necessary that we go to the lengths that the people of Khutshong went to, because if that violence had not sparked, I doubt that any engaging would have taken place. 
However, what is a bigger issue for me is that ANC has it's biggest support in the ever so loya rural voters, whom I doubt consider policies and all sorts when voting.

3. Politics is a dirty game. Ridiculously dirty. It is survival of the fittest. Mbeki in his prime when JZ was still growing facial hair seemed unstopable, and for him to come to this...it's chilling stuff. 

4. Promises...Eish, I really do not see why a goverment that is running the country and is contesting an election should be promising new things. What I would like to see is them campaigning on what the ANC has achieved, not what it is going to achieve, surely that's a stronger manifesto. Because to me, it speaks of failures, not Mbeki's failures, but the ANC's failures.

One more thing: to this day, I do not know who I am going to vote for. I am trying to keep myself informed, but I am finding no joy. 
God save South Africa from itself

Cande
15 Dec 2008 13:08

One more thing: to this day, I do not know who I am going to vote for. I am trying to keep myself informed

Say that again, i like Helen Zille though as the president of the country but that doesnt mean i want DA in power

TheLady
15 Dec 2008 13:08

Can I get the doccie on dvd maybe? I missed out

Shuga babe
15 Dec 2008 13:22

<<i like Helen Zille though as the president of the country >> WHATTTTTTTTTTT!!!

MJJ, will PM u President of the ANCYL's details.

mjj
15 Dec 2008 13:31

Cande didn't you mean Lucas Mangope?

realist
15 Dec 2008 13:35

One more thing: to this day, I do not know who I am going to vote for. I am trying to keep myself informed, but I am finding no joy.
That would make politics interesting for you if you haven’t decided which party to vote for. 
That would make politics interesting for you if you haven’t decided which party to vote for.
Hang in there and eventually you will find the party that will resonate with your objectives, that is if you have any. 

maar nam, i expected a lot from realist.......a 1 page analysis would have been fine, 2 page would have been great......
If there was a point to discuss I was going to but the doccie was pointless.

Cande
15 Dec 2008 13:38

I am serious man, i like such powerful women like Helen Zille

Shuga babe
15 Dec 2008 13:39

MJJ, please check you PM. will President Julius later and check if he had received any message from ya!!! 

Vesa
15 Dec 2008 13:42

Helen Zille...yerr! Maybe thats a typo

Cande
15 Dec 2008 13:42

lol @ Vesa

mjj
15 Dec 2008 14:10

SB got your PM....Thank you Thank you Thank you

Shuga babe
15 Dec 2008 14:25

YOU AER SOOOOOOO WELCOME DEAR!!!!

Dimago
15 Dec 2008 15:51

One more thing: to this day, I do not know who I am going to vote for. I am trying to keep myself informed
I was just telling some1 here at work that i may have to make my voting decision in the voting booth....

Dimago
15 Dec 2008 15:55

Can I get the doccie on dvd maybe? I missed out
@ TL, you can go watch it at the movies, sterkinekor is showing it.

mabhebheza
18 Dec 2008 13:18

damn i luved this doccie ..is it @movies nyani dimags? anyone care 2take me 4a movie on xmas day ..

Now i undersatand  the conspiricacy about Chris Hani death --Mbeki was challenged by Chris Hani 4iskhudla deputy president & Chris was part of Umkoto wesizwe which Thabo wasnt skierlik Chris Hani dies hebana??..

amongst the ANC Mbeki was not a evrybody cup of tea becoz bekayisifundiswa 2much ( luvin the statement he was more English than an Englishman hahaha) then ANC promised ppl houses & so forth (RDP) manje they r worried becoz the ppl r impatient Mbeki uzane BEE ( which only benifits an elite group..its al about connections if ur not connected isono ngawe)

Arms deal- Mbeki futhi is the driver of this xushuxshu the eskhaleni Zuma sebeyamnidi ngamafutha ..he fired 4rm the ANC nje scandals araised but he is not even charged eintlek they act as if he is guilty but funny umthetho wethu uthi innocent until proven guitly !

Terror yena is the last biscuit 2crack he is rude in short isivunguvungu(windwhirl) @Polokwane beseka khamsile ngoba beke thole intanga zakhe ...biiterness led him 2start a party! uxakwe ngabantu base Khotsong the whole nation yona how is he going 2run it ..kwek

Thank God i changed careers becoz i wud have been a young miserable ANC activist with my dream of being a president shattered !!

Cande
18 Dec 2008 13:38

Helen Zille for president!!!!

cleve
18 Dec 2008 13:48

Cande I was having breakfast with her in Cape Town on Monday at the Westin! Very strict woman.

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