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Mzansi's Queens of talk

Written by Dimago from the blog Some food for thought on 10 Nov 2008
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There are a number of talk shows in Mzansi and black women seem to be at the forefront (or at least hosting) them.

I happened to catch Tumi Makgabo on Mnet Stars. She's the host (and producer) of Talk with Tumi. This show was originally on Mnet, not sure why it was moved to stars channel, who watches this channel anyway? Her show is positioned as premier, upmarket where she interviews who’s who in the world. The people she has interviewed include Martina Navratilova, Sir Richard Branson, and Helen Zille etc. This show is good, the guests are interesting and the host is excellent. I don’t think she has much of an audience on the current channel. I think more people would benefit if it were to be moved to SABC 3, late night around Oprah’s time or maybe scrap Oprah and show case some South African talent.

TM
The talented Tumi Makgabo

Sis Noeleen is the more famous and much loved talk show queen. She presents 3Talk on SABC 3. There’s not much I can say here – she’s our very own Oprah, without the gifts and studio audience. She came at a time when we didn’t really have a lot of talk shows. Sis Felicia left a void when she upped and left. Some of us needed an alternative to the ‘B n B’, so 3Talk is well positioned and great (most of the time). Noeleen connects with her viewers and guests and basically her show works for SABC 3, don’t think anyone wants to temper with it.

Then there’s Kgomotso Matsunyane. She’s the host of Late Night with Kgomotso. I don’t think I’m qualified to talk about her show because I only caught 5 minutes of it (this is after I forced myself to stay awake on Sat night to see what the fuss it about – needless to say what a waste of my precious time). The 1st 3 she was cracking her ‘not so funny jokes’, and the other 2 she was interviewing Lesego Motsepe. I enjoyed her more when she hosted Pillow Talk, LNwK reminds me of The Phat Joe Show, but it’s not quiet there. Maybe I should have stayed up longer, but isn’t it a rule on television to capture your audience in the first 2 minutes?

Carol Bouwer did a great job with Motswako. The girl saw a gap and filled it. Judging by the topics and guests on this show, I conclude that it’s aimed at everyday South African women, more especially black. Sadly (depending on how you look at it) Carol opted to go behind the scenes. This can be looked at as empowerment on her part but could be she was tired of being a source of gossip (espesh because of her accent)

Overall I think we have good talk show hosts. They are well spoken, beautiful and learned women and their shows cater for various viewers. There’s however still a gap in this space and SABC can do more for talk shows. Moshidi Motshegwa or Pabi Moloi (i enjoyed her on sisterhood) would make great hosts for a show aimed at up and coming young adults. Phat Joe must come back; I hope he didn’t burn too many bridges. And mama Felicia, our pioneer, though she was not supported too much, I think she made a difference in this scene.
Moshidi
                                                   Has great potential Moshidi Motshegwa

40 Comments

Toxic
10 Nov 2008 17:25

Not sure about Moshidi or Noeleen. Otherwise, enjoyed reading this. Not too serious, not too light....like a good cocktail at Newscafe is.

I have never watched Kgomotso and probably never will. i don't know what it is about South African talk shows that i don't find appealing. Maybe it's the women?? i enjoyed PhatJoe back in the day and i suspect if Xolani (asikhulume) had one i wouldn't miss it. 

Noeleen seems to have run out of ideas to keep me hooked on her show. I like that her smile doesn't seem fake/forced but she had better find something else to talk about. She doesn't angle her show to be current....unless it's a book review of the latest book, or a food show or fashion bits but her show doesn't seem to research what her audience is interested in. Or maybe i've outgrown it *horror*

Motswako--the speech/dialogue is too slow for me shem. The host seems too polite, like she's conversing with mama wa ko next door so i always feel like she's holding back.

there's a big gap for a show to compete with oprah IMO.

Toxic
10 Nov 2008 17:36

If it was Khanyi Dhlomo we were talking about, then maybe oprah would finally get that competition she deserves!

Dimago
11 Nov 2008 09:51

Toxi, check out the interviews Tumi has conducted here.
Khanyi could also be a good candidate

LM
11 Nov 2008 09:59

If it was Khanyi Dhlomo we were talking about, then maybe oprah would finally get that competition she deserves! Haaai Toxic, ke a gana. Khanyi may be good but she will never be a better hostess/anchor go feta Tumi...

Hi Dimags...

mjj
11 Nov 2008 10:01

I thought Tumi's show was a repeat of the first season on Mnet..... beside who watches that Channel..... truth be told some of us with DSTV only watch limited channels, can't wait for Telkom Media's offer on pay per view.....

Back to talk shows:

Sis Noeleen is the more famous and much loved talk show queen - REALLY? is she loved? The last time i watched her show was in late 2006..........usisi lost the plot many moons ago....

I said it from the first episode that Kgomotso's show was boring, and judging by last week's show, its getting worse by day..... What was Lesego doing there? Telling Kgomotso why she was fired from Isidingo???????

I so much agree, someone needs to give Phat Joe a TV show..... I'm hooked to his Morning Radio Show on Kaya FM, thanks to TDC for opening my eyes about that "other" morning show from the station that's being managed like a Spaza shop.....shame the awards venue has finally been announced....... and its 3 weeks before the awards and still there is no final list of nominees....Nko's enofefe ndincamile!!!!!

Best-Achiever
11 Nov 2008 10:14

Pabi Moloi (i enjoyed her on sisterhood) would make great hosts for a show aimed at up and coming young adults

Very true about Papi or maybe is because i love her.

 I dont Think Mzansi will ever be at the level of Oprah since most of our talk shows ... doesnt seem to be intensively researched and thus leave viewers hanging. I still do watch Noleen but it depends on the topic that will be discussed.

Cande
11 Nov 2008 10:16

MJJ where is the venue?

mjj
11 Nov 2008 10:23

Cande - can we not give that station undeserving publicity????? Lets chat offline...

belz
11 Nov 2008 10:24

but could be she was tired of being a source of gossip (espesh because of her accent) > LOL!!!

I dont feel Noweleen, i dont feel that gal on Motswako, Kgomotso, rolling my eyes, i caught her when there was Stan from Scandal.  SA talk shows are just nje......

Shuga babe
11 Nov 2008 10:27

<<I dont Think Mzansi will ever be at the level of Oprah since most of our talk shows ... doesnt seem to be intensively researched and thus leave viewers hanging.>>

Very True BA, i ues to love Motswakovery much that I don't miss even a single episod but lately they always leave me hanging. Yesterday's episode I have lota questions about it.

Reggie
11 Nov 2008 10:27

mjj, I love noeleen

Dimago
11 Nov 2008 10:28

truth be told some of us with DSTV only watch limited channels, can't wait for Telkom Media's offer on pay per view.....
very true...and when there's nothing to watch, we end up on these other channels. Telkom Media, isn't that gonna take a long time, with them trying to find a backer since Telkom pulled out?

Sis Noeleen is the more famous and much loved talk show queen - REALLY? is she loved? The last time i watched her show was in late 2006..........usisi lost the plot many moons ago....
mjj, She is loved by the older folk. Mina i only watch on Fridays, her topics are more interesting then

BA i also love Pabi. She also hosts our company's corporate news and she's doing a great job

Hallo Mogoera...

felfel
11 Nov 2008 10:31

I also watch Noleen depending on the topic of the day, some are interesting and informative especially since she features professionals on such topics and since i watch with questions in my mind, her callers cover that part for me. I wouldn't say she has reached her sell-by-date just becos she doesn't appeal to me. She has her own audience, you know, kinda like those callers who go "Thank you Noleen for a fantastic show.....blah blah blah"

Motswako has absolutely no fireworks, i only watch it during commercials on 3. Watching it is like reading Drum or Real magazinne. The other presenter (the older one) is just too calm, its like she's begging for answers from her guests, i get really bored. But then again maybe her approach works for the "Drum readers" audience.

I don't remember watching a talk-show presented by Tumi but i gather she's more in tune with business related topics, not societal issues......thats just my take.

belz
11 Nov 2008 10:32

Mina i only watch on Fridays, her topics are more interesting then >>> see, that's the thing Dimags, if she was a good talk show host you would be watching everyday.

belz
11 Nov 2008 10:34

Masechaba Moshoeshoe is good.

Reggie
11 Nov 2008 10:39

yeah belz she iz

LM
11 Nov 2008 10:41

Motswako has absolutely no fireworks, i only watch it during commercials on 3. Watching it is like reading Drum or Real magazinne. The other presenter (the older one) is just too calm, its like she's begging for answers from her guests, i get really bored. But then again maybe her approach works for the "Drum readers" audience. LOL Felfel....I'm a Real Mag reader, maybe I should start watching Motswako religiously..LOL.

The older one is Brenda Sisane...used to present Jazz show on Metro(sundays). I agree with you on this one..

dali
11 Nov 2008 10:42

kgomotso is not all bad but whats with the band jeez even phat joe was better hai.
i only watched it once i was was so shocked to see that ragga dj guy forgot his name and redi direko is also a breath of fresh air. 

SA talk shows are just nje...... - beltz - i agree with you on this one i have never been a die hard fan of sa talks shows.

Dimago
11 Nov 2008 10:44

Masechaba Moshoeshoe is good.
Yeah she is....i listen to her on Kaya now and again.

GoldenSta
11 Nov 2008 10:55

Nice Dimags

Eish I've never seen Tumi as a talk show hostess so I can't comment on her.

Noeleen doesn't do it for me at all and to make matters worse she now has a hyena laugh.

I think generally in SA talk shows that do well are ones about politics/current affairs.  

odie
11 Nov 2008 11:01

Bathong i have a problem with the lady who presented Motswako yesterday, yerrrrrrrrrr her make up. please somebody talk to Carol about her make up. i agree with you Felfel its like she is begging for the answers from the guests

felfel
11 Nov 2008 11:09

Odie i saw that yesterday, that make-up was just glittering in a bad way, everything about that lady looks bad, she always has bad hair mondays.

ok, there's someone else who i thik is just capitalising on something right now on tv, that Sarah gal, who was once Elle's manager. She appeared on 3Talk talking about her depression. Later that week I saw her on another show repeating the same thing, then i saw her on sunday on yet another show once again repeating the same thing. i know depression is a silent emotional killer but really do we only have one person in Mzantsi who suffered from it............i mean reaally........
Yha, the lady speaks well and is quiet eloquent and i think she'd be good at presenting some spiritual show but enough with her depression already............you'd think she died from AIDS and came back negative..............

belz
11 Nov 2008 11:14

you'd think she died from AIDS and came back negative..............> ROFL!!!! yho felas!!!!!

odie
11 Nov 2008 11:21

Felfel i read her story on True Love, she was going on and on about how she abused the husband.  thats too much if she is going on and on about it everywhere.

carino
11 Nov 2008 11:24

Before I read....

Did anyone watch Motswako last night?? cande???

What is it that Kelebogile (thats her name, yt?) had on her head????? She looked like lemphorwana thats been dipped in a cup of ZCC tea...

 

myname
11 Nov 2008 11:37

you'd think she died from AIDS and came back negative..............Lol felfel. I only watch Noleen if i have time or there is that old grandpa who is a doctor (He always manage to crack me up). And the Motswako lady i watch her show with my blankets so i can go rrhhhhhhhhhhh rhhhhhhh uyandozelisa. She doesnt have that energy & im not saying makaphaphe abe-fly but she is too cool

odie
11 Nov 2008 11:42

Carino LOL @ the lemphorwana part. 

felfel
11 Nov 2008 11:44

Odie i think the husband must put a gag order on her where his name is concerned.........she always mentions him, and i keep thinking 'poor husband has moved but is being dragged into this'.......hey even Edith Venter's 2 (or is it 3rd) husband gagged her from even mentioning his name in her book.........

Joe
11 Nov 2008 11:44

I used to like Noleen, but yoh her informative topics like "Food from WW" are not appealing to me, thats when I found that I am not the target market!

I will check that LNWK show, I saw her hugging Lettie, but I went to another station!

Shuga babe
11 Nov 2008 11:45

Carino, that was NOT Kelebogile, it's Brenda Sisane.LOL

Dimago
11 Nov 2008 12:20

ok, there's someone else who i thik is just capitalising on something right now on tv, that Sarah gal,
@ Felas Is that Sarah Ngubeni? Parson's gf on Isidee? I saw her on the chat room, seems she's the presenter/host.

felfel
11 Nov 2008 12:24

Not that 1 Dimago , another one, she's also featured kwi True Love yamanje........

Toxic
11 Nov 2008 12:34

Haaai Toxic, ke a gana. Khanyi may be good but she will never be a better hostess/anchor go feta Tumi

LM, i have never seen Tumi in action as a talk-show host so i wouldn't know. And that's the reason i didn't mention her in my post.

Brown Shuga
12 Nov 2008 01:48

<<<<Masechaba Moshoeshoe is good>>> Ja neh! Different what what for different what what....

LM
12 Nov 2008 05:41

Dimags, that is Sarah Shongwe of Bonsai. She is famous for being Kelly Khumalo s manager. I read her 'I became fat due to depression" story in Real Mag a few months ago n now her long versiom in TL. LOL Felfel..

Dimago
12 Nov 2008 09:37

LM i googled her, she's got a web page, check out: http://www.sarahshongwe.com/index_files/about_sarah_shongwe.htm

LM
12 Nov 2008 10:30

have checked it Dimags and I really don't know what to say....................her life is just there for anyone to read about n know....publicity? brand what what? haaai!

GoldenSta
12 Nov 2008 10:43

<<LM i googled her, she's got a web page, check out: http://www.sarahshongwe.com/index_files/about_sarah_shongwe.htm>> Good Gaad WTH? At first glance the website looks like it's one of those get rich quick scheme's websites. And then it's a mixmasala of her business and personal life. You'd think she'd know better being in communication and marketing.

TheLady
12 Nov 2008 10:49

hey G*-it says' she was maried to her soul mate" sounds like she still wants brotha man back

Dimago
12 Nov 2008 10:54

Yazi, she's barred her everything...i wonder why....

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