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Street Beggars

Written by Best-Achiever from the blog Only the Best is Achieved Here on 13 May 2008
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"Begging is a difficult subject to address. Guilt is definitely not the best advisor. Charity is based on personal motivation and choice. The only wrong decision is not thinking about the issue at all."

The sight of a beggar in a poverty and unemployment -stricken country is unsettling at the very least and gives rise to considerable dilemma. When to give or not give? That's the question and it's not easy to answer.

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It has become a norm that in every robot in town you find people begging for money and food. When I first came to stay in big cities, I was so surprised that there are people who live by begging (in my hometown, there is no street beggars, everyone sweat to bring food on the table even if it means to go to the garden). My heart was shred apart, I couldn’t bear it, so I always give away some coins even if it is R2.00. One day one of my friends paid me a visit and we drove to the nearest cinema to catch a movie … we passed about 5 robots to get there. In all those 5 robots there was someone begging for money, me being me gave all of them some coins ..And my friend asked if I always do this and I said yes. And he told me that some of those people are not actually as poor as we think, some of them get government grant but they still go and emotionally blackmail people on the street. I felt so ripped-off and used, but the problem is, it is not all of them who are beggars by choice, so it is kinda difficult to differentiate. 

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In some cases you find a woman with a child or children on the street as early as 05h00 AM until 19h00PM, my worry is, I’m already being taxed like I’m the only one working in the entire universe for the child to get grant, but this mother (as if it is not enough what SARS is doing to me)also tax me live on the road …why can’t she go and find some piece job from the suburbs and flats … there are many people looking for sleep-out helpers, even if it is only two days a week, that would help to bring bread on the table or just pack the bags and go back to rural areas … it is rear to find a beggar there and you’ll never see the grave written “there lies so and so died of hunger” .. in Zulu they say there is no grave for hunger ! what is money for grant doing? 

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And there are those ones who are old enough to work and take care for their families but instead they take their parents or grandparents or disabled people to do street begging, why can’t they go find piece jobs to care for them, the fact that they also wake up, catch a taxi (because they don’t even sleep on the roads) to town means they do have money to go to town, why can’t they use that money to go look for jobs? You’ll find them wearing Levis and all sort of brands and you wonder if they actual use that money to take care of those people or themselves? I’m being taxed for grant of both pensioners and disabled ! if those people are not getting any grant why cant they atleast take them to wherever you apply for grant and apply for them ...if those ppl dont have ID's why cant they take them to Home Affairs and do that ..from where i stand they do have money to go to Home Affairs.

Well I know that some of those people are not street beggars by choice but is begging real a solution? do they real use that money to resolve the problems they are facing? ... i think they dont because you see the same faces everyday for the whole year or even years…I feel emotionally blackmailed 

So bloggers
Should one feel obliged to hand over cash whenever a cupped hand is extended? Or is it better to give money to charities rather than to individuals? I'd like to think that most of us might consider embracing both policies. The hard truth about begging is that you’ll never know who is there by choice and you'll never know how is a person going to use your hard earned cash or if they are real worth it. There is no single, simple solution. 

Begging is an issue that directly engages our emotions, so getting our responses right every time is highly impossible. The difficult thing about this is "whatever you may see, may not be" .There are many unfortunates,but many are beggars by choice.
 
Where i grew up maybe 60% of the citezens there have no one working in the entire family but they are depending on what the soil can give to them and i have never saw them begging ... instead they cultivate everything and use it as their means to live ... they even go to an extend of selling some of the things they nurture to give education to their children and i salute them for that.





125 Comments

Toxic
13 May 2008 03:29

good one Best-Achiever. I am still reading your article and will comment on it later on. I generally don't give money to beggars especially if they carry their children on their back!

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 03:32

Thanx Toxic ...... They have emotionally blackmailed me for too long but not anymore

Manhuza
13 May 2008 04:15

Jah, neh! i always feel sorry for beggars and i always give them whatever i have unless i have nothing, you know it's not easy to see whether beggar is genuine or not so i just give and believe you me i know some of omarobane and these guys ( abomarobane ) take bagging as some kinfd of business, they make plus minus R500 a day.

I remember one lady walking aroung with a teenager and a toddler, she aproached me and started telling me a story about how hungry they are and her grandchild has not eaten for the whole day and they have no money to go back to the township, they came to town to fetch money from emsebenzini kaMkhwenyana maar umkhenyana doesn't work there enymore, anyway i felt so sorry for the three and took them to Shoprite bought them two bags of food and gave the transport money.

Guess what? about twoo weeks later the same woman aproached me with the bloody  same story, when confronted her she stood there,  smiled and told me umsebenzi unqabile, that made me feel like i was walking around in public with no clothes on.

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 04:22

@Manhza ... that's the problem ...some people use this as a profession ..

belz
13 May 2008 04:30

i felt so sorry for the three and took them to Shoprite bought them two bags of food and gave the transport money. > yu did what????????? manhuza, i dont beleive you, inhliziyo yakho inhle sana, mina benganya ukunya!!!! i dont give money to beggars!!! i dont, these people are lazy, lazy, lazy!!! they use people, hurt people, ngoba these are the same people who hijack you or steal you bag through iwindow, i feel sorry though for the very old, ngoba i sometimes think that their children abandoned them or somehting, but these that strap kids on their backs and use them to make us feel sorryy, no thank you!!!!

This other guy that i work with once said to this lady on the road, can you come and work for me i'll give you R800.00, this lady said, ingijwayela kabi, i make 2000 rand every month here on the streets, why  would i want to go and work for 800. so you see these people bakhohlakele nje!!!

felfel
13 May 2008 04:31

Mna, i stopped, since i gave some poeple who came knocking at my house and asked for food, i gave them the last bread (buttered) and i was seriously hungry yazi. Later that day i walked around the house going some where and there was my bread thrown like that. I felt so hurt yazi especially since i was also hungry and i gave them with my open heart. Never again!!!, i'll give food to a baby who can eat it while i'm watching, not a grown ass man or woman!!!

faraimagic
13 May 2008 04:35

this is a very sensetive issue.....well i was in Free state last week and this old white guy approched us ,asked for money which we gave him,leta found him in one of the hotels demanding service saying he has money more than everyone there blah blah blah and he was dead drunk...........we  just left him like that..!

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 04:37

@belz ....are lazy, lazy, lazy!!! you can say that again

@felfel ....there was my bread thrown like that .... please dont say that coz i have bn giving my food and clothes to them  ...that's bad

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 04:38

@fara ... so it means most of these people are just robbing us

Yehake!
13 May 2008 04:44

yho,people where i live theres a man who is alwasy in overalls just after five he comes to the mall and claims that he had brought his sister to hospital and now he wants to go back home but he doesnt have enough for a taxi faire in his hand you will see a few coins, and so we fell for the story and we decided(mom and I ) to give him the full faire but then the next week it was the same story i wanted to asmack right across the face for ukunya kangaka(shiiting us like that!) so everytime i see him i scream robber!! u tsotsi he runs like mad!!

Nonny
13 May 2008 04:44

WOW BA, very well written, I must admit, I always fall for the begger blackmail, I give give and give coins like it's going out of fashion.

faraimagic
13 May 2008 04:47

well wun't know for sure.....another incident....In Meyerton ..i was going for a small shopping on a late sunday day,this lady had 2 kids with her stopped me shen then told me that she had a problem and was in town fron morning,both her kids haven't had anything to eat since morning,me being the good guy i am i gave her R50 for transport and food......then i went to the shop..on my way back i saw her from afar that she was still there....as i approched her i wanted to ask if she had done something about the kids,before i knew it she was blabering her mouth telling me the same story she already told me....she forgot that i had passed before..,......listen to this ...i went to her ,searched her and took my R50  was i heartless?

pushi
13 May 2008 04:47

The problem is most South Africans are lazy, u see in town, a lot of guys help people with parking in the streets ne, but u'll find this guy who's clean, very clean standing on the side walk begging for R2. I mean why vele doesn't he join the parking boys & earn the moola.

& then some of the beggars will just swear @ u for giving them food, wen they want money, they think money grows on trees, eishh

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 04:53

Yehake ...LOL
@Nonny ... thankx ...i was once in your shoes but Not anymore

Yehake!
13 May 2008 04:54

hai Faraishizniz sana you soo right! i will most definetly keep that in mind when i get scamed by these crooks!

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 04:59

@Fara ....went to her ,searched her and took my R50 was i heartless?
Not at all ... That was a good one and you shoould have told everybody around ...

@Pushi ... mean why vele doesn't he join the parking boys & earn the moola.
you can say that again ...they can even do some car wash  ...

faraimagic
13 May 2008 05:00

Yehake  (((((((smilling))))))hie!    i like wat you call me!

faraimagic
13 May 2008 05:03

B.A  i wanted nothing to do with her....besides Meyerton is a Ghost town you see one person after an hour...and i hate the POLICE....They are the worst beggers on earth!

monchooza
13 May 2008 05:03

there is boys here in fourways who stand by the robbots pretend the are dissabled and beg for money, but at night the change and wear clean clothes and miraculously they become abled again... so mina I am flippin tired of being robbed nami I have my own problems....

felfel
13 May 2008 05:03

Trees grow on money...LOL

Yehake!
13 May 2008 05:07

Mablogeers for dear life pls explain the advert on SABC where 3 people carry a red square card and sing so(in soprano with vibrato) "polokwane, garankuwa,soweto,tshwane....) what the hell does it mean?

Mambox
13 May 2008 05:10

Nice one BA... Mina i just feel sorry for the kids esp the babies, sometimes i just want to buy purity and give the mothers (coz they ain't getting none of my money) but then i think that we r being cheated here, normaly a baby would cry if they are hungry...but i've never seen one crying which mean they do have food, maybe bayahamba bayodla emakhoneni or something...a big part of me doesn't feel sorry for them but i always have a what if...

Mambox
13 May 2008 05:15

@monchooza you are so right gurl!! i saw this other one on  Witkoppen road walking around with disabled legs begging for money...as soon as the robots turned green he was normal again and walked to the side to count his money and added it to his fortune that he had already collected...some nerve he had!!

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 05:22

LOL @ Mambox and Monchooza ... we are emotionally robbed 

Yehake ..why not create a blog about it like Bulie did ...LOL

Yehake!
13 May 2008 05:26

yho never best achiever!!

Simmone
13 May 2008 05:30

Personally I believe there are street beggars out there who genuinely need a helping hand and even if you do not fork out your hard earned cash to contribute to their “drug habits” or “scams”. Giving a little something wont hurt.

“A giving hand is more blessed than the receiving hand”, even if the receiver is pulling a scam on you as long as you gave with a free heart. And not all women street beggars carrying babies on their backs are recipients of the Tboz fund.

Mphoyame
13 May 2008 05:31

There's a guy that is always R3.85 shot for baby formula, he's there from 17:15 telling you he forgoy his wallet at homeif he goes back to his house the shop will be closed.

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 05:34

LOL @ Yehake uyigwala

WhiteSockGirl
13 May 2008 05:34

Hi BA! This is something so close to my heart! Begging, another symptom of our impoverished communities. 

I have quite a lengthy response and please feel free to delete it if you think it is too long… 

What you are saying about the clothes is so right, but one learns quickly to see through the persons who would want to take advantage. Some people are using emotional blackmail and to filter through that all is difficult. I don’t give money to people on the street. I would rather buy a meal for a person or buy them food to take home. And if I don’t feel right about the person, I simply walk away. Without any guilt feelings. 

'Or is it better to give money to charities rather than to individuals?'

I usually suggest, that if you really want to do something for charity, to ‘adopt’ a child / children. Meaning, identify a child from an impoverished background,… and assist with the school fees, school clothes and other basics. The child does not even have to know about it, if you don’t want the child to know about. In the end if you calculate all the “R2s” that you gave out, it would amount to a hefty monthly sum and might as well invest it in a child’s future. That is how I see it anyway,…

Should you give money and donations to charity organizations? I would suggest that your do some investigation about the organization first. Make sure that the money and donations that the organization are receiving, actually reaches the deserving people. Cause it does not always happen that way. And yes, I am managing a welfare organization and I know what I am talking about. 

"Where i grew up maybe 60% of the citezens there have no one working in the entire family but they are depending on what the soil can give to them and i have never saw them begging ... instead they cultivate everything and use it as their means to live ... they even go to an extend of selling some of the things they nurture to give education to their children and i salute them for that."

My colleagues and I discovered the miracles of the Moringa Tree   and we planted hundreds of trees. Can wait to put the miracle tree to use!

Msoe
13 May 2008 05:37

@BA-Yehake ..why not create a blog about it like Bulie did ...LOL
eyi uyangihlekisa...

Cnglemother
13 May 2008 05:41

Nice one BA, mina i dont give them money often but the sight of them makes me feel so guilty especially the one's with babies at the back, the one on Atholl Oaklands just before Melrose arch, that baby is always half dressed, winter/summer and its looks like its the same baby every year not difference in growth. 

It makes me angry that she does not dress up that baby in baby leggings but shorts in winter and the balungus do drop amasaka empahla kuye, what she does with those clothes is a mystery. The one on Cnr Katherine & Pretoria Road in Sandton looks like he's drunk all the time, so i just crack jokes with him.


I just ignore them but the guilty chows me all the way home, 

what about the Alex kids (well dressed, still in school socks) that beg on Grayston Drive, those you just wanna slap ngempama. You can see that they attend school and they are well taken care of but nje baphethwe ukusa. Its true BA in our small towns begging is a seen a disgrace, people would rather sell cigarettes & sweets than beg.

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 05:43

Amen WSG ... ur response is informational like everybody else's ... i have started what u r saying investing in someone's future and because i fell o robbed for giving money to street beggars this is the only way i have decided to help the needy ....

@Simmone ...“A giving hand is more blessed than the receiving hand” ... but there is no point if you have what ifs ..because that is not a genuine heart and thus taht's not blessed

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 05:48

@Cnglemum ...that baby is always half dressed, winter/summer

That is emotional blackmail at its best

drop amasaka empahla kuye, what she does with those clothes is a mystery .... they sell them

zolx
13 May 2008 05:55

I dont give to beggars and i dont feel guilty about that. Imagine giving to beggars EVERYDAY...hayi shame i cant afford to.
Instead i have a debit order every month that goes to a home for street kids - there they're given shelter, food and clothes from the community.

Bra Bizza
13 May 2008 05:59

ixoxo ne xoxo liy'zgxumela wena'funa ku gxumelwa ubani?

i'm already paying tax for shelters that have food and blankets and grants and you still wanna play on my emotions? kohlwa....it aint happening....

Simmone
13 May 2008 06:00

@BA. exactly my point.

as long as you gave with a free heart

In giving there are no "what ifs" or "maybe"

Mathaz
13 May 2008 06:01

I do not give out money to beggars nor do i feel guilty about it.

Cnglemother
13 May 2008 06:01

@ Simmone And not all women street beggars carrying babies on their backs are recipients of the Tboz fund. I understand as some are not even South African.There is a Zim lady in Yeoville (my hood) that had a small infant (3-4 weeks old) on street, the child had old,big ragged clothes and its not  nice to see a small baby in ragged clothes so I begged her to to come to my house to get my son's clothes as I was also helped by friends and colleagues with clothes when my child was born and she did not show no up at all, she probably wanted money, even gave her my numbers to call me but nothing.

faraimagic
13 May 2008 06:04

some of them are so poor that they wear NIKE takkies..and have NOKIA phones.....Chinege.!....(with a Nigerian sound)....

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 06:08

@ZOLX ... I admire your decision
@Bra Bizza ...i'm already paying tax for shelters that have food and blankets and grants and you still wanna play on my emotions?   

exaclty my feelings, 

@Simmone .... im happy for you ... i have been robbed and developed the what if mentality ... so now i only choose who to give bcos then i'll know why do i have to give ..not that those ppl in street forced me but the emotional blackmailed me

Simmone
13 May 2008 06:13

@ Cnglema…….as I have said, every situation has its own merits and there are really people who need help and want to be helped, for me there could be more than a thousand reason why she didn’t come to your house or granted she only wanted money. No one can fault you for trying. It’s really a good thing

My issue is with making general assumptions and discarding every beggar on the street as a money grabbing, glue sniffing alcoholic lazy bum with no hope. Maybe I am being too emotional but just the way I see it.

carino
13 May 2008 06:16

faraimagic
13 May 2008 06:17

Cnglemum...yho how i love and adore babies...she must just come and give that baby to me......i will raise it like my own...!

Strolicious
13 May 2008 06:19

i went to her ,searched her and took my R50 was i heartless?...........LOL..........still reading da reply.

carino
13 May 2008 06:20

God created us equal but different. Some he made black, and some, white. 
In the same attitude, he let others become beggars. 

I never feel sorry for anyone or feel like giving them some of my colour... so in the same attitude, i smile & greet beggars as i pass along...

faraimagic
13 May 2008 06:20

life...........

carino
13 May 2008 06:24

God created us equal...

That was supposed to be God created us all in his image....

faraimagic
13 May 2008 06:25

emagine someday you will becum a millionare...and you meet these people everyday...wud you be free at all knowing that you are driving a car worth millions and someone doesnt even have a R5?....lamboghiniz and stuff.....life is bigger than us.....!

faraimagic
13 May 2008 06:27

Carino love correcting people LOL!

Strolicious
13 May 2008 06:27

Most of da beggars r from zimbambwe.i used to give to ppl on wheelchair money but not anymo coz there r not even da 1 who spend it,....

carino
13 May 2008 06:28

God created us equal...

That was supposed to be God created us all in his image....

bulie
13 May 2008 06:28

BA sisi mna i felt sad the first time i saw these people but sumthing made me angry about them is that i gave the other one a two rand and i saw her later buying a litre of wine in a bottle store so if they suffer that much why do the use our money to buy booze coz we thought they r hungry but they r not qha banxaniwe abanayo imali yokuthenga ivarantyontyo ( wine) so i decided not give them again. Kukho intetho ethi isizwe sifa ngomntu omnye so nabo basweleyo bayakusole belala ngenxeba.

faraimagic
13 May 2008 06:35

Strolicious    yho i almost had a heart attack..thot u said most bloggers from zimbabwe..................ooh beggers.. 
Im zimbabwean!

faraimagic
13 May 2008 06:35

Strolicious    yho i almost had a heart attack..thot u said most bloggers from zimbabwe..................ooh beggers.. 
Im zimbabwean! lol

carino
13 May 2008 06:41

@Farai..Carino love correcting people LOL!

Farai.. farai...
Have to say it's good to read  you mention my name. I've been waiting all morning, I even thought you perhaps ignoring me...

I was worried about you , hey... after I saw the news on what's happening in Alex.

hi..hi... just joking...

Fluffy Head
13 May 2008 06:45

When it comes to beggars....
God forgive me but there is no way I'm gonna give away my hard earned cash to someone who is refusing to get off their behind and do good old hard work.

Almost 50% of my cash already goes to the poor and society.

Pay as you earn - that taking almost 35% of my salary even before I receive it in my bank account

Vat - every time I buy something 14% of it goes to the poor

Petrol Levy - everytime I drive or even take  a taxi I pay a portion of that for the poor

Death taxes - if I happen to die, 14% of everything i leave behind atleast goes to the poor.

When I'm done with the poor and needy, how much is me and my immediate family supossed to be left with to live on. 

Over and above all this, some sucker has some guts to come up to me and say they are hungry_who cares bhuti I'm also hungry I'm from work and dang frustrated because of the traffic so get away from my window cause more than anything you being at that close proximity to me makes me feel unsafe.

And then the mothers who use their 5 year old babies to stand in the sun carrying some dead Mugabe joke while she relaxes by the robots....I mean seriouslly, lat time I checked child labout was illegal in this country. The scorpoions are busy chasing after fame when they could rade the 4 way stops looking for mothers who are abusing their babies...And the social workers_are busy drinking coffeee and playing solitare while the rest of us are supposed to be doing their job.

Hayi I'm sorry, but I refused to be used like that by the South African system...Call me heartless and mean but I sweat my brains of to it.

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 06:45

@carino .... he let others become beggars. i beg to differ sisi, in my knowledge God didnt create anyone to suffer, it only the lack of knowledge that make people suffer but that's could be an article for another day

@Bulie ...most of us feell cheated because of what some street beggars do with our money .

@Fara ... i have to agree wth you  on   ...Life ...

Simmone
13 May 2008 06:59

And the social workers_are busy drinking coffeee and playing solitare while the rest of us are supposed to be doing their job. 

Thats a bit harsh and very ignorant

carino
13 May 2008 07:04

@BA i beg to differ sisi, in my knowledge God didnt create anyone to suffer, it only the lack of knowledge that make people suffer but that's could be an article for another day.

Please read my statement again... it goes... ...

He let others become beggars.

God never created no-one to be no beggar.... ah-ah... 

He lets everyone make choices then lets us live in the choices we make. 

But like you say, thats another topic for some other day.

Fluffy Head
13 May 2008 07:06

Simmone sisi...I have a friend who is a social worker so I know exactly what I'm talking about. They don't work...she goes for 3 weeks in a row goign to the office, making phone calls_have lunch and come back home...
And this is the truth from her_unless she is lying about her job

Msoe
13 May 2008 07:07

I bealive that someone who has two hands, two legs, two eyes, two ears etc and especially if she can open her legs should go and find a job just like us and earn money. I do not feel for beggars because ngicabanga ukuthi bangamaqili, although there is one by Musgrave Road (NONNY) who says she's got cancer and she always just gets to me because i use to have the desease as well. So ya these people just sometimes know which buttons to push. And there is a grandmama beggar near The Workshop ohlezi ecela isihlanu to bypassers, I heard that the woman has a child at Wits University ayikhokhela ngemali yokucela. At least she is doing something useful with the money.

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 07:13

@Carino ... He let others become beggars.
that is exactly where i beg to differ ..He doesnt let anyone to beg, we let ourselves to do that

Nonny
13 May 2008 07:21

"I do not feel for beggars because ngicabanga ukuthi bangamaqili, although there is one by Musgrave Road (NONNY) who says she's got cancer and she always just gets to me because i use to have the desease as well."

What's my name doing there Msoe? I hope it doesn't mean I am that lady.........eheheh ngiyadlala........talking about Musgrave Road, Msoe plz tell me u know this old man who is so so literate that also stands at Musgrave Road, he has such a good sense of humour and I just can't help not give him imali. He is so friendly bandla. Guys, for those that don't know him he has this board that's almost as tall as he is *that is unique*......and listen.......on the board he has a long list of reasons why he is begging on the streets, it's so capturing coz he is at the robbot and while u are stuck in traffic it's such a nice LOL moment for u while waiting.

One of the reasons on his list is that he begs coz he has no money to buy a Tracy Chapman CD and he loves Tracy..........heheheeh beggers nowadays.

And guys he changes his board every week and so I always look forward to his creativity!!!!

Mambox
13 May 2008 07:23

@Msoe "although there is one by Musgrave Road (NONNY) who says she's got cancer and she always just gets to me because i use to have the desease as well." Ngibazi kahle laba abakwenza u-feele guilty ngoba bethi bayagula, there's this other guy who stands on Peter Place in Brynston his sign says he is HIV positive and he even has his cd4 count on the sign...it hasn't changed since 2006...lies lies lies

myname
13 May 2008 07:23

myname
13 May 2008 07:23

Simmone
13 May 2008 07:24

Fluffy Head, you do know what you are talking about, every social worker in South Africa is represented by your lazy friend and I cannot argue with that.

myname
13 May 2008 07:26

i swear its not me BA mina i was buzy laughing 2 Belz comment

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 07:29

@Nonny ...One of the reasons on his list is that he begs coz he has no money to buy a Tracy Chapman CD and he loves Tracy..........heheheeh beggers nowadays

He is blackmailing you with his creativity ...LOL

@Mambox .... guy who stands on Peter Place in Brynston his sign says he is HIV positive and he even has his cd4 count on the sign...it hasn't changed since 2006...lies lies lies

i have seen many of that guy sometimes he goes to woodmead

@myname ... speechless

Nonny
13 May 2008 07:35

He is blackmailing you with his creativity ...LOL

NO BA, it's not balckmail, he is showing us that he appreciates the money that we give him and in return yena he makes our traffic jamw worthwhile. So mina I don't mind giving to him.

ON TOPIC - Guys ever noticed umlungu ohluphekayo udabukisa kanjani? Shame I feel so sad for them coz thina bantu abamnyama we are used to poverty but bona shem bavele badabukise coz uphuthu nombhubhudla is not their cup of tea.........LOL

ocean1
13 May 2008 07:37

after reading these responses no beggar is ever gonna make me feel guilty  again for not giving them money, especially the ones who use their babies

belz
13 May 2008 07:39

One of the reasons on his list is that he begs coz he has no money to buy a Tracy Chapman CD and he loves Tracy> LMAO!!!! nyhani??? , please can you go past him today and tell me whats on his board Nonny.

ocean1
13 May 2008 07:42

@ Nonny, hayke yena umlungu andim check(i) nakancane nje angase ayolala 
why engaceli kwabanye abelungu

belz
13 May 2008 07:43

have seen many of that guy sometimes he goes to woodmead> BA, i see that guy everyday in Woodmead, icd count yakhe ayehli ayinyuki, ihleli lapho nje, hayi suka!!!

Guys ever noticed umlungu ohluphekayo udabukisa kanjaniNonny,very true, they look worse than darkies.

Nonny
13 May 2008 07:43

"nyhani??? , please can you go past him today and tell me whats on his board Nonny."
@ Belz, serious sana, the place is jammed with traffic around five when I leave work, so I will jot what I read on my notebook. I tell u nomatter what mood I am in, the old man always makes me LOL and yena he is not in ur face like other beggers, shame he is strategic bandla in his own primitive way.........LOL

Nonny
13 May 2008 07:50

"Nonny,very true, they look worse than darkies."
@ Belz I think it's coz thina as odarkie, we are used to umzabalazo and bona they get frightened by poverty mese bayadabukisa shem. The othert thing I don't like is the arrogance kodwa ebe ehlupheka.

The one mlungu, ask me for money in the afternoon and I had given him in the morning, so I told him that sengimunikile, u know what he said: "Well, that's not my problem, I beg for money every second and I don't check out the faces that give"..........yeses from that day ngasayina phansi ngathi nomore nginike umlungu imali........*yah I know I was generalizing but I mean WTF, it's not my problem if it's late afternooin and he hasn't reached his target.......mxim*........the day I give umlungu imali is the day I am served by a petrol attendant engumlungu / tea lady or domestic worker, so till then ngibhekelele abakithi.......LOL......*guys I ain't be racist, I am just kidding & ngiquba usuku nje*.....LOL

Fluffy Head
13 May 2008 07:52

Nonny I don't feel bad for abelungu abahluphekayo (mara le isile shame) cause ndicinga ukuba ngokuya abanye abelungu babesenza imali ngentsuku zeapartheid_yena wayehleli esenza ntoni...Yayiyi chance yakhe akayisebenzisa. But I know that's naughty of me.

belz
13 May 2008 07:57

Yazi Nonny, ngicabanga ukuthi into yabelungu who are beggars its caused yile BEE, phela ibashayile abelungu iBEE, they probably should go and get plastic surgery, go black.

carino
13 May 2008 08:00

"Well, that's not my problem, I beg for money every second and I don't check out the faces that give"

ROFL yho.. thats a classic... 

He was right, kodwa...

Nonny
13 May 2008 08:09

"(mara le isile shame) cause ndicinga ukuba ngokuya abanye abelungu babesenza imali ngentsuku zeapartheid_yena wayehleli esenza ntoni...Yayiyi chance yakhe akayisebenzisa." 
@ Fluffy, true hey, he had ithuba lokuba mnandi yet walilahla so makazabalaze naye.........mina abantu abanjengaye make me see ukuthi shem SA has come a long way ngoba wawazi ukuthi umlungu engancika kuwe ekhalela i 10c nje qha..............LOL

He was right, kodwa...
@ Carino, at the end of the day he didn't have to be so flippin arrogant as if I am the begger and he is the beggee!!!!

Cnglemother
13 May 2008 08:14

Nonny ibeggar zongamla zivele zingcole unqene nokubanika imali, and they dont even crack jokes or smile at you while giving them money and banenkani nolaka.

Nonny
13 May 2008 08:21

"Nonny ibeggar zongamla zivele zingcole unqene nokubanika imali, and they dont even crack jokes or smile at you while giving them money and banenkani nolaka."
hehehehe..........as I said abakujwalele ukuhlupheka bandla baxoleleni.........LOL!!!

Cnglemom - where have u been hiding today?? I missed u mngani!!!!

Beyonce
13 May 2008 09:23

Very touchy subject BA... But ke mna shem I dont feel an inch of sympathy anymore! I used to give and give and give... I would even drive around on sundays looking for them-- just 2gve them my leftover Nandos etc from the weekend!! Until one Sat evening, me was drvingdown 14th avenue, with my carstop down singing (loudly) along to Rihannas Umb--re--lla, the song had just came out so you can imagine I was intoxicated... I didnt notice this guy busy making faces next to ma window, seeing that I was ignoring him he just poured ushibhoshi(Jeyes Fluid) all over my face,,, It was bad 4rom then on I dont even look at them esp when they have a baby on the back.

Fluffy Head
13 May 2008 09:32

he just poured ushibhoshi(Jeyes Fluid) all over my face\

LMAO Beyonce, I'm sorry sisi ..... eish

Toxic
13 May 2008 10:57

that's terrible Beyonce man. Eish it took me the whole day to post this response cause some of the responses nje were outrageously funny.....Farai, Nonny's response to someone that mentioned her name, Belz eish you guys made me crack up!!

Back to B-A: my take on beggin is this:

Imagine receiving R2 from 50 people in a day =R100. Multiply this by 7 (days of the week)= R700. Multiply this by 4 (weeks in month)= R2800.

You would be making R2800 AT LEAST in a month cause you're guaranteed to get an odd R5 here and there and some people give you clothes, some give you food, some shoes etc.

And if u're housebreaking and selling stolen goods, you're making more money than people that make an honest living looking after people's children.

Really for me this is a career that someone has made for him/herself and if it works for him/her i don't have to maintain it! 

The "begging" i support is StreetTalk (i think that's what it's called) begging. That organisation that provides education for poor kids and their parents stand on street corners selling the newsletter--i never feel obliged to buy the newsletter and when i do i feel it's going somewhere and at least i am paying for something-i'm not just giving.

We give enough already if you think about it: 
your mother, the tax man, the banks, your family and extended family (think of those loans they haven't paid back), the hikes, our time at work, in traffic, dealing with irritating people (boss, colleagues, whoever), irritating calls...hayi noh i GIVE so much of me, my money, my time that there really is NOTHING left to give to these people.

with the interest rates going up so much THE BEGGARS will start charging us interest..R2 will soon have the value of R00.10 very soon and i don't want to find myself stressing about them over every other thing i stress about.

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 23:32

NO BA, it's not balckmail, he is showing us that he appreciates the money that we give him and in return yena he makes our traffic jamw worthwhile. So mina I don't mind giving to him.

@Nonny....he has not only blackmailed you bt also brainwashed you dear ...LOL

Best-Achiever
13 May 2008 23:43

@Beyonce ... that was very rude ...im sorry
@Toxic .... when you break it like that, now i know where my other thousand(s) rand has been going ...shuu
@Nonny ... you are one of your own kind
@belz .... never noticed that the cd4 count never changed until you mentioned it, i saw another one in Galomanor yesterday and i just LOL and felt bad about it ...

Nonny
13 May 2008 23:55

"he just poured ushibhoshi(Jeyes Fluid) all over my face"
@ Beyonce, sorry man B, that was flippin rude of that begger hey!!!!

"@Nonny ... you are one of your own kind"
@ BA, I think the appropriate phrase u were looking for is: "You are one of a kind"...........hayi indaba ye "one of my own kind"........LOL @ the pun........hehehehe

"please can you go past him today and tell me whats on his board Nonny."

Cnglemother
13 May 2008 23:58

hey nina bathakathi (BA no Nonny) niqala nini kanti ukusebenza? mina i am early nje ngoba ngipusha something.

Best-Achiever
14 May 2008 00:02

@Nonny ....  No dear angibhedanga i meant what i said .. you are one of your own kind ..LOL
@Cnglemum ...phela some people just love their jobs ...LOL ngiyadlala i work from 07h00 until 15h30 ...me dont like traffic and those beggars ...LOL

Nonny
14 May 2008 00:03

"please can you go past him today and tell me whats on his board Nonny."
@ Belz, a promise I make is a promise I keep. Yesterday the board read:
- I beg because South Africans are so kind and it would be silly of me to steal.
- I beg becuase I am unepmplyed (DUHHHH)......*that one made me LOL coz I never imagined him to say DUHHH...........LOL*
- I beg because I am sure there is a reason I am poor and you are rich
- I beg because if I don't beg, how will I survive?
 - Oh and I also beg coz I still don't have that Tracy Chapman CD I love so much.

Belz, that's all I could manage to jot down........eish guys this man is a classic yazi I wish I had connections to make him be a grandpa standup comedian!!!!!

Cnglemother
14 May 2008 00:05

@ I beg because I am sure there is a reason I am poor and you are rich hi-hi-hi, uyayibeka lo baba straight!

Best-Achiever
14 May 2008 00:09

hhayi ke Nonny ngiyamvuma uyahlekisa ...so you might as well give him imali for amahlaya akhe

Nonny
14 May 2008 00:09

"hey nina bathakathi (BA no Nonny) niqala nini kanti ukusebenza? mina i am early nje ngoba ngipusha something."
@ Cnglemom I start work at 06:30, latest I arrive is 07:00 and I start TVSA @ 08:00..........*phela considering the amount of time I spend blogging, I gotta make up for it somehow*

Nonny
14 May 2008 00:14

"hhayi ke Nonny ngiyamvuma uyahlekisa ...so you might as well give him imali for amahlaya akhe"
@ BA, seriouisly speaking the fact that he is using a white board to beg and changes the board on a daily basis shows that he is creative and he has also realsied that we look forward to what he has written on his boad everyday. When we are stuck in traffic everyone is glued to him.

Mphoyame
14 May 2008 00:31

@ Yehake....Mablogeers for dear life pls explain the advert on SABC where 3 people carry a red square card and sing so(in soprano with vibrato) "polokwane, garankuwa,soweto,tshwane....) what the hell does it mean?

It's KFC saw it last nite.

Nonny
14 May 2008 00:42

@ Yehake, yes dear, I also paid attention to it izolo, it's a KFC advert, they show the KFC logo quite allot once u really pay attention to the ad. Now after this I am not sure if I am still happy to hear my township being shouted there, perhaps we are one of the biggest supporters of ikhentaky yikho besigaxile..............LOL

carino
14 May 2008 00:52

It's KFC saw it last nite

I saw it too... I thought it's quite cool... the whole time they were doing them one by one they were just teasers... Now they are flighting the whole ad... with everyone.... singiing all the towns and villages with those people marching with the banners then coming all together and the banners say South Africa's favourite...




carino
14 May 2008 00:54

@Nonny... Now after this I am not sure if I am still happy to hear my township being shouted there LOL..

Molilo
14 May 2008 00:56

Yhu someone told me it was TV licence and I believed him I will concentrate the next time I c it

myname
14 May 2008 01:06

Hi guys sorry BA standwa sam Guys did u c the new ad ya Frisco lena everybody is drinking coffee like there is no tomorrow hihihihi the sound makes me Lol & Nonny & ur street freind begger LMAOL he is so creative u know.........

belz
14 May 2008 01:08

I would even drive around on sundays looking for them-- just 2gve them my leftover Nandos etc from the weekend> ROFL!!!!!!! hahahahahah

I beg becuase I am unepmplyed (DUHHHH)......*> LMAO!!!! hu eh eh, this man knows how to say DUHHHH, hayi unamanga Nonny! i'll send you R20, ngemonthend so you can give him, phela this is comedy at its best!!!! 

I beg because I am sure there is a reason I am poor and you are rich> heheheheheheh

Fluffy Head
14 May 2008 01:13

Honestly now without all the biatching I was doing yesterday, Nna the only people I have mercy on_are the one's who beg but they do something...Like sell the Homeless Talk or wash your windscreen (even though sometimes they use dirty water)...But I think they are not being lazy and asking for money right out_they are doing something even if its a paper I won't read I'll buy it.

Yehake!
14 May 2008 01:13

morning!!!i eventualy saw that advert myself,yho hai sana i almost went to the sabc offices asking why the hell they aare keepin'us in suspence as if we are watching a Arnold Schwazineger movie(check out my shwazi...!!he,he)!!! yho !!! suspension just doesnt do it for me!!
@BA hayi ma lovie kung'phindile lokho(it happened again) as i went to spar yesterday to get dried fruit for my son(i still dont understand why he likes so much at 2yrs)that stupid begger approached me again,yho i wanted to pull my zinzas(pubs) one by one out of fustration..come on don't they have access to the internet so to see they are being discussed?!!yho hai madoda that idiot needs to be jailed for schaming the nation!!!

Nonny
14 May 2008 01:15

"I beg becuase I am unepmplyed (DUHHHH)......*"
Eish, he had unemployed bandla, this was my error!!!!

"i'll send you R20, ngemonthend so you can give him, phela this is comedy at its best!!!!"
@ Belz, bank charges are riduculous at ABSA sana, so make it a R1000 and I will make sure the begger gets what's left of it...........LOL

Best-Achiever
14 May 2008 01:20

@Yehake ...did you give him money?

myname
14 May 2008 01:24

Ok there is this mama koTshwane next 2 KFC. She is white like albino & have frickles or black dots i dont know but I think its been 8yrs that mama asking for money & shame i was still at school the 1st time i saw her & even today u can go there she is there even though i dont leave in Ptr but im sure. I fu dont give her attention she claps. ............then there is this one he asks for 1cent "Please one cent". So while i was still staying in PTA studying i always pass this guy (it was a must be). He always ask me time. I mean even if im going 2 church on Sunday & im walking with people he will luk at me & say "Awsi kekupela nako" & even today if he sees me he always ask ixesha & everybudy will burst

Nonny
14 May 2008 01:28

",yho i wanted to pull my zinzas(pubs) one by one out of fustration.."
LMAO @ this statement Yehake u are mad........izinza pho???.......heheheh!!!!

Yehake!
14 May 2008 01:29

@BA ofcourse not my darly!!! you must never i screamed nanku tsotsi(hes a robber!!) only sana!!

Nonny
14 May 2008 01:30

"He always ask me time. I mean even if im going 2 church on Sunday & im walking with people he will luk at me & say "Awsi kekupela nako" & even today if he sees me he always ask ixesha & everybudy will burst"
LMAO @ Myname's story, yazi wena uyangihlekisa.........LOL

Toxic
14 May 2008 01:32

Homeless Talk!!!!! 

That's what i was talking about in my post...thanks Fluffly!!

Cnglemother
14 May 2008 01:32

Caroro have TVSA not given u the floating post u been moaning and groaning about??

KeleFabulous
14 May 2008 02:27

only saw this now so i will comment only on the article...sorry if anyone's already said this...

 a study was done a few yrs back at wits about this. they found that more than half of these people (esp the disabled - blind etc) are foreigners. now i don't know if their countries have grants etc for them but ke they are here begging everyday. that being said, i believe everyone has a choice. they can choose to go stand on that corner begging, or they can do what other smart people do, go to the nearest developments (townhouses etc) and ask around until you find someone looking for a helper. believe me there is work out there, plenty of it! what pisses me off the most is the ones that bring babies and children there...the whole effen day in the sun with them kids begging. imagine the heat, anguish...they are just stifling the souls of these little children! and who writes on their cardboards anyway...the handwriting is so well-to-do...even i don't write like that. not to mention the English used! he bathong...! like i said, they do have choices. it's also my choice NOT to give a single cent. call me cold hearted or whatever but,  i so do not feel bad about it.

Nonny
14 May 2008 02:32

"and who writes on their cardboards anyway...the handwriting is so well-to-do"
Yah Kele, the writing is above street material and imagine if they channeled their writing ability to something more productive.


suzzy82
14 May 2008 02:36

Mna i don't give them anymore ,that woman in that taxi rank to yeovelle makes me tired she is asking  money by force, everyday she is there SHE IS AT WORK 
me and my friend we were passing in one robbot in Rundburg, and there was this guy pretending to be deaf and dumb the next thing he cover his face with that board he was caring and START WORSHIPING OUR ASSES HE COULD NOT RESIST THEM since them i don't give my money, we were shocked 
They hate it when u give them food instead of money



Linomtha
14 May 2008 02:57

Guys niyibonile la advert ye Frisco yesterday niyithanda njani?Rhuuuuuuxu ,Rhuuuuuxu.

Fluffy Head
14 May 2008 03:19

Toxic: That's what i was talking about in my post...thanks Fluffly!!
You're welcome

bulie
14 May 2008 03:27

Ndiyibone nqo Linomtha and guess what bendiphunga mna kuqala so ndiye ndatsarhwa at that point ivela ngayo. Read ur PM's & reply asseblief torhwana.

Kodwa ba better abantu coz bona abananto nithini ngaba bahleli elokishini basilinde xa sibuya emsebenzini umntu akujonge xa usiya eshop athi sorry sisi khawuthi ishumi or akubone uvelo kwenza i shopping abe ekucela imali xa ehleleleni elokishini angayofuna umsebenzi nje.

Beyonce
14 May 2008 03:45

I hate that Frisco Advert, is that how black people drink coffee??
Dont get me started with them Ads, Im still having  issues with the Brand-power-lady!! namanje

belz
14 May 2008 04:04

That Frisco advert is the worst eva, its disgusting!!!!

Nonny
14 May 2008 04:12

"I hate that Frisco Advert, is that how black people drink coffee??"
@ Beyonce, mina I didn't like nor hate the ad, it was just another advert to me. I am trying my darnest not to see it as a blacks being perceived negatively ad *I gave up on the black perception when I saw that washing powder is constantly advertised hand washed by odarkie and washing machine by ongamula......LOL* ........I guess it's just one of those things!!!!

Beyonce
14 May 2008 04:15

lol @ Nonny and the Washing Machine!

Best-Achiever
14 May 2008 04:33

That Frisco advert is the worst eva, its disgusting!!!!
you can say that again Belz

Im still having issues with the Brand-power-lady!! namanje
You are not alone Beyonce

I
gave up on the black perception when I saw that washing powder is constantly advertised hand washed by odarkie and washing machine by ongamula.....LOL

LOL ..@Nonny

myname
14 May 2008 08:24

lol but mna i LOL iyandichaza especially ndyi1 oyithandayo hihihihihihihi. Why guys everytime there is something (i dont know) but we always jump into conclusion about colour, is it bcoz im black?..................dont u think u r over-reacting? just an innocent q no biting nhe bcoz nam i have 28 teeth ok? And byebye its time 4 mi 2 go home

Segololo
14 May 2008 08:37

i don't give, I don't feel guilty. I just smile and look back with a saintly smile... If you want money, you have to work for it even if it's garden work but i guess it;'s easier to soak in some Vitamin D than actually sweat!! Eish! they make me angry!


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