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Forgive and Forget: How do you feel?

Written by Toxic from the blog inTOXICated on 12 Mar 2008
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Before you wonder if I'm going mad, lemme explain what this is about-no, it's not a recap.

Have been watching this season of Forgive and Forget hosted by the beautiful
Doris Msibi.
doris

I would have changed my name if I had been named Doris!!

Anyway this is what last night' episode was about-if you really wanna know.

Susan from Pretoria, has lost a lot in her life because of her abuse of alcohol. She lost her home, her dignity, and about 20 years ago, her daughter Darleen left home, never to be seen again. Susan is now 69 years old, sober, but gravely ill. All she wants is to find her daughter, and apologise for the lifetime of neglect and emotional abuse. Will mother & daughter be re-united?

They eventually re-united mom and daughter but what I found extremely irritating was the constant; "HOW DO YOU FEEL?" HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?" HOW DO YOU THINK THAT MADE HER FEEL?" questions posed by Doris when she interviews the people on her show. It's so baaad that you can even predict when she's going to pop that question..........!!

Admittedly there are good episodes that make me wonder what's the difference btw this show and Khumbul'Ekhaya and then there are some that just make you wanna switch off your TV and go to bed.

Have you watched it? And.........HOW DO YOU FEEL??????

97 Comments

Sobza
11 Mar 2008 23:48

HOW DO YOU FEEL??????

Intoxicated

Toxic
11 Mar 2008 23:57

LOL Sobza.....yah neh!

Renegade
12 Mar 2008 00:03

Forgive and forget ne? How do I put it. Well, for me, its forgettable. I always remember whats on at 9pm on a wednesday(k'ekhaya for the less informed), but I can never remember when F&F is.

As far as the "how do you feel" question, eish, I can't comment really coz i've never actually watched the show long enough, but if you know me, then you know how much I hate pycho babble-questions like, "how does it make you feel", "what happened in your childhood to make you accept such things"....OMG, I'm glad I haven't watched it enough to hear all that load of bull!

But on the whole, I really wish I knew what goes on in a person's mind before they write to these shows. Is it really that much of sheer desperation, enough to enable you to air your laundry (dirty or not), on national tv?

Toxic
12 Mar 2008 00:13

As far as the "how do you feel" question, eish, I can't comment really coz i've never actually watched the show long enough, but if you know me, then you know how much I hate pycho babble-questions like, "how does it make you feel", "what happened in your childhood to make you accept such things"....OMG, I'm glad I haven't watched it enough to hear all that load of bull!

it's exactly those kind of questions they ask!!!!!!!! I don''t know if they took a 3 second pscho class or if it's in the script but it's cringe-worthy for sure. I also hate those type of questions and more than my distate for airing my laundry in public it's those typa questions that ensure that i'll never ever write to this show! Even on radio shows when they've given away a prize and ask "How do you feel!!" I sigh with frustration.

But on the whole, I really wish I knew what goes on in a person's mind before they write to these shows

Yeah, i don't get this either! Usually they know where the person lives and they can just go there on their own and apologise-maybe the TV crew is a form of PRESHA on the aggrieved to accept the apology??

Nonny
12 Mar 2008 00:20

Forgive and forget.................how come I have never heard abt this show???
Plz tell me which channel and what time is on.........(even though it smells like a fo sho production..........LOL)???
Neway it seems like a Khumbulekhaya wanna be show...........isht, whatever happened to originality????

As for the name Doris, on my 18th birthday I would've went straight to home affairs and changed that name, and then when I am 75 my grandchildren can start calling Doris all over again............LOL

Vutmi
12 Mar 2008 00:30

Yeah, i don't get this either! Usually they know where the person lives and they can just go there on their own and apologise-maybe the TV crew is a form of PRESHA on the aggrieved to accept the apology??...Exactly, i wonder if people get paid to appear in shows lyk this. Remember all you need is love? do you think all those people who appeared there all lovey-dovey were expressing genuine feelings? me i'll only do it if there's a million dollar cash paid beforehand...LOL

Renegade
12 Mar 2008 00:33

Ya Tox, thats how i've always justified it for those that write to the shows, they see it as a means of putting more pressure.

Nonny the show is running its second season on ETV.

Lol, i forgot to comment about the Doris thing! Eish, its so sad when our parents call us such things ne? Nonny, I get wat u mean, its such a granny name!
But I find it even more weird when ppl of our generation call their children by such names. My cousin just had a kid, called hime "Quinton", and a guy I know called his new born "Isabel"...really guys!

Renegade
12 Mar 2008 00:34

Its like the girl who wanted to be a stripper on Zola 7! I mean really!

Toxic
12 Mar 2008 00:39

But I find it even more weird when ppl of our generation call their children by such names. My cousin just had a kid, called hime "Quinton", and a guy I know called his new born "Isabel"...really guys!

LOLOLOL!!!!
Bo Mavis, Sarah, Margaret, Happiness........if you're giving birth anytime soon, please stay away from grannies' names or naming your offspring in remembrance of some aunt or mom-in-law!

Remember all you need is love? do you think all those people who appeared there all lovey-dovey were expressing genuine feelings?
Vutmi, yeah!! Although i think most girls insisted their cheating partners take them there as a way of making up for their wayward ways he he he! i can't imagine doing that to someone else LET ALONE myself! I wouldn't even do Jam Alley!

Vutmi
12 Mar 2008 00:40

Rene that's nothing, how about those people who still name their kids weird 'verbs', like 'Condolonces, Relocate, Confusion, Congregation, Anxious, Conglometer(this one kills me), and many more. just because its English. eish mara!!!!

Vutmi
12 Mar 2008 00:44

Pardon, Pleasure, Pressure, Confidence, Godsave...

Toxic
12 Mar 2008 00:49

Godsave???? hahaahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PhlyLady
12 Mar 2008 00:50

Hey guys!! Is Doris preagnant or was it my eyes?

Dintha
12 Mar 2008 00:53

Our poor parents felt the pressure plus we have guys called Obedience because if you didn't have an English (Christian) name you weren't for real. I'm heading to Home affairs one of these days. Can one of you bright sparks perhaps tell me how long it takes to remove a "christain name".

Vutmi
12 Mar 2008 00:58

Dintha I know a guy called Obedience, his sisters are named Suprise and Versilance(spel)!!!!!!!
if you didn't have an English (Christian)...yah neh!! WTF was that mara hey? they gave us stupid names and now they feed us pee...yerrrrrrr

Toxic
12 Mar 2008 01:00

PhlyLady--she is pregnant and still looking good ne!

Dintha-be careful you don't get a new ID with Jacobus Cornelius as your middle names LOL!

Dintha
12 Mar 2008 01:03

Vutmi, I suppose that's where Doris comes in with her forgive & forget.

Cnglemother
12 Mar 2008 01:05

Sorry Toxy off the topic but you'd understand as a mother yourself, why is Nestle messing with our babies lives, all that Lactogen that has to be put off the shelves for being unsafe for human consumption? Am so angry as i never breastfed my child and he was on formula since day one. And what's their excuse for this irregularity? Nestle why udlala ngabantwana bethu kanje?

felfel
12 Mar 2008 01:05

She is must pregnant, saw that too Phlylady.
This show is worse than the first one, this Dorris lady just can't connect with the victims & victimisers, shes too calm man, even when someone is crying next to her, she just sits there and ask, "How do you feel?" ....bitch i'm crying,that's how i feel right now nx..... she's just reaaally duuuuh

wetlips
12 Mar 2008 01:07

hehehe ..i feel you guyz about the naming issue....i know 4 Xosa's Nomamicrowave, Nomaitaly, Nomasaturday, Nomavenda....... ROTFLMAO

PhlyLady
12 Mar 2008 01:09

Ya she is looking too-good Toxic. But ke what happened vele to Mpho? I also thought she presented the show well. "HOW DO YOU FEEL?" HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?" HOW DO YOU THINK THAT MADE HER FEEL?" I kept LMAO everytime she asked that.!!!

Ngqesta
12 Mar 2008 01:11

then there are some that just make you wanna switch off your TV and go to bed..... this is exactly what I did last night, except I opted for the American Idols. I watched it for the first time (this season) last week, I could sort off tolerate it, but last night........I just got bored within the first 5 mins and changed channels......which is very unusual for a sucker for a reality TV that I am. One other little factor that I noticed was how she 'internalises' the stories she covers, the expression on her face shows serious and genuine concern.......which really worries me, my take is that for one to present such shows you have to be able to 'distance' yourself while showing very keen interest.

Vutmi
12 Mar 2008 01:12

hehehe ..i feel you guyz about the naming issue....i know 4 Xosa's Nomamicrowave, Nomaitaly, Nomasaturday, Nomavenda....... ROTFLMAO....
ROTFLMAO @wetlips....Nomawhat?????????.ha ha ha ha ha ha

Cnglemother
12 Mar 2008 01:13

Ngqesta ubungqesta kuphi vele, kunini ungekho?

Renegade
12 Mar 2008 01:14

@Vutmi: Some parents reall must be arrested. Do they not know that names have a potential to scar their children for life? I mean, Conglometer? I mean, wat teh &*#^ is that? And confusion? What's the child supposed to think about his conception?

@felfel: bitch i'm crying,that's how i feel right now nx. ROTFLMAO

@wetlips: Nomamicrowave - U cant be serious! Buahahahaha!!!!!! Imagine meeting a guy, and having to introduce yourself as Nomamicrowave...thso, I thank God for the small mercies like having both an african and english name, i just shelved my english name, i sometimes forget what it is...lol!

I'll watch this Doris chick next week, wanna see if i can stomach her for 30 minutes.

wetlips
12 Mar 2008 01:15

@wetlips....Nomawhat?????????. Ya i know Vutmi i also felt the same way....hehehe

PhlyLady
12 Mar 2008 01:16

@ Feifel--bitch i'm crying,that's how i feel right now nx--- hi hi hi!!! I guess no 1 must take u to F&F ne?

Ngqesta
12 Mar 2008 01:19

@cnglemother.....bengiseGoli dear, you know for the Capetonians going to Goliburg is an event of the year on its own, that is how slow things are down here :-)

Vutmi
12 Mar 2008 01:20

What's the child supposed to think about his conception?... Ironically, there's someone named Conception and Aborted and Crucify and Difference and...LOL

wetlips
12 Mar 2008 01:21

@ Renegade... you wouldn't believe if I tell you that these people are proud of their names as if its their African name....have you ever notice how Xhosa's love to mix their lingo with English esp. the ones from PE....

felfel
12 Mar 2008 01:23

They must just stay away from me Phlylady. TV is just too boring on tuesdays and now SABC 1 has made it worse with that stupid Ntabeni series hayi mncim.....it starts with chaos nje and we don't even know what hapenned where, they must all go to Forgive and Forget so they can tell us how they think they make us feel and how they feel about that.............hahahaa

carino
12 Mar 2008 01:23

I met a guy called Poverty.

wetlips
12 Mar 2008 01:24

@ Vutmi..... Aborted.....OMG tell me yoyu are joking....that is not funny anymore you know....some parents....nx

felfel
12 Mar 2008 01:25

A friend of mine has a friend called Never. I saw an email address of this Never person and it reads never@succeed.co.za, i actually thought the full name is Never Succeed....cabanga...lol

Toxic
12 Mar 2008 01:29

"How do you feel?" ....bitch i'm crying,that's how i feel right now nx..... she's just reaaally duuuuh

Bwahahahahahahah!!!!!! Such an apt

Vutmi
12 Mar 2008 01:29

I met a guy called Poverty...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ooh shame poor guy(excuse the pun)...there's no hope hope for him...LOL

@ Vutmi..... Aborted.....OMG tell me yoyu are joking....that is not funny anymore you know....some parents....nx...for his sake i wish i was joking...unfortunately its the truth...uh there's Fortunate and Divide and Vanish and Shepard and Israel and Painful and Peacefull and...

Toxic
12 Mar 2008 01:30

.......description

PhlyLady
12 Mar 2008 01:30

On the names issue: My friend's name is Hluphekile (poor) n its not her parents who gave her the name but the father's mother coz she said the child (Hluphekile) is gonna bring indlala (what is it in Eglish konje???) to the family!!!

Vutmi
12 Mar 2008 01:31

A friend of mine has a friend called Never. I saw an email address of this Never person and it reads never@succeed.co.za, i actually thought the full name is Never Succeed....cabanga...lol ....ROTFLMAO ha ha ha ha ha

Porsch
12 Mar 2008 01:32

@TOXIC >>>> for the past two days i've been asking about this girl and i cant shake the feeling that my qstn somehow contributed to this article,hi hi hi hi

personally i dont watch the show but i'm always mesmerized by Doris's beuaty i havent seen such a beautiful african woman in a long time....

felfel
12 Mar 2008 01:37

Porsch.....she is really beautiful yena shame, she don't even have to try.
But that job/show is robbing her big time shame....

Mphoyame
12 Mar 2008 01:38

I'm giving birth soon, PLEASEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee come with suggestions for a tswana name (girl & boy) I'm expecting twins.

felfel
12 Mar 2008 01:40

Mphoyame....Tswelopele...lol, joking, i don't even wat it means...

Vutmi
12 Mar 2008 01:41

@Mphonyane try
Invite(boy) and Invited(girl) hahahaha just kidding....

Zee Babes!
12 Mar 2008 01:43

@ Toxic - Saw F&F y/day and I knew a lot was going to be said abt last nites show, vandag on this platform.

1. I think uSis` Doris is trying too hard to dig for the thruth and she poses all these emotional questions (i.e. how did dat make you feel)...you see the tactic here is to open wounds....She doesnt allow the process to happen naturally.

2. Yena futhi uSis`Doris, she is too sympathetic - and i think the tactic is to see the other person breaking down or something.

3. As for the her name **sigh**

4. Muhle yena usisi shame, qha????????????????

Renegade
12 Mar 2008 01:45

@Mphonyane, I think you should create a new blog for name suggestions, because I forsee a great response, which would be stealing Toxic's blog. I for one have quite a few suggestions, but just create a blog, and the names will flow you'll see. (By the way, congratulations on the bundles of joy, reminds me of how bad i want a kid)

Pooky
12 Mar 2008 01:45

morning yall....eish guys about the name thing, my other name is Nomachina(nick name), i guess its coz of the eyes or coz of my gran watchng too many Bruce Lee movies,i dont know(ja she gave me that name), ,but abantu bayalishortnisha and just call me china....i kinda like it though.......

Renegade
12 Mar 2008 01:46

Vutmi, Invite and Invited! Lol!

carino
12 Mar 2008 01:48

A friend of mine is called Experience and he's the only child. Makes you think, hey...

Cnglemother
12 Mar 2008 01:48

@ Porsch doesnt she look a bit like Claire Mawisa but the finer version, Claire is beautiful herself but that Doris chick is in a league of her own.

Zee Babes!
12 Mar 2008 01:48

@Mphoyame try Mpho (boy) Mphonyane (girl).

I dont understand why twins name have to be similar...um a twin and dat still puzzle me nangokhu.

carino
12 Mar 2008 01:49

@Mphonyane Kabo le Kabelo

awelani
12 Mar 2008 01:55

ROTFLMBAO @ ol the names.......... I once met a guy and his name was Simple and last year a relative of mine gave birth to a baby boy and when I heard what name she gave the poor child, I lafd so hard, the poor boy was named "Successful".

carino
12 Mar 2008 01:57

@Mphonyane here's a list

Tebo le Tebego

Thato le Thabang

Neo le Poloko

Tshiamo le Tshiamiso

But whatever you do...dont name your kids these names:

Tshepiso
Boitumelo
Tshepo
Tebogo
Thabo
Neonyane (just leave use the nyane-s, plz)
Mmapule
Matlakala
Mosadiwapula le Monnawapula
Mabebe
Segomotso
Nametso
Neo le Dineo
Katlego
Kahlolo

Zee Babes!
12 Mar 2008 01:57

@Renegade By the way, congratulations on the bundles of joy, reminds me of how bad i want a kid) Dat makes the 2 of us!

@Cinglemom and Porsch - she does look like Claire yena kancane shame - bahle bobaw`2

carino
12 Mar 2008 01:58

I dont know when God is gonna decide to bless me.... but im waiting for that with anticipation. Congratulations, Mphonyana.

awelani
12 Mar 2008 02:00

and oh, they dont col him by "Successful", they shorten the name to Saki.

Porsch
12 Mar 2008 02:01

Felfel ....... havent seen her show but from what i hear the show/job is not doing her any justice hope she realizes that very soon and find something better to do like Top billing (she's got the beauty and physic for it)

Cnglemother.......I So agree Claire is pretty too, i wont mind my brother having a child with a beauty like that, do you think she's got selfesteem issues(just wondering how beautiful girls like that think)

carino
12 Mar 2008 02:02

This girl we grew up was with, was called Medical.

Miss K
12 Mar 2008 02:04

Molweni crazy people.

All i can say is thank God for DSTV!!

I met a guy on Sunday who's name is Memory.

Vutmi
12 Mar 2008 02:05

This girl we grew up was with, was called Medical..LOL...@carino....is she Mental??? ha ha ha ha ha

carino
12 Mar 2008 02:05

Is it just me or is it utterly boring today?

I mean, what are we trying to do with this naming-talk. really, now?

carino
12 Mar 2008 02:07

Vutmi
12 Mar 2008 02:09

met a guy on Sunday who's name is Memory....just so he'll never be forgotten..LOL

@carino...dont throw in the towel yet, it is still early, something will come out.

Zee Babes!
12 Mar 2008 02:18

Cnglemother.......I So agree Claire is pretty too, i wont mind my brother having a child with a beauty like that, do you think she's got selfesteem issues(just wondering how beautiful girls like that think)

Mngani I think they do have it, nabo phela bangabantu and you know moss ukuthi namadodo ayabashiya - cabanga sisale thina omntakaba.

Mathaz
12 Mar 2008 02:20

@ Mponyane: Leagilwe and Oratilwe

suzzy82
12 Mar 2008 02:30

@Vutmi:hehehe ..i feel you guyz about the naming issue....i know 4 Xosa's Nomamicrowave ,,,,,hayi ,,,,lol .....lol

Cnglemother
12 Mar 2008 02:32

Zee babes and Porsch when it comes to amadoda no matter how beautiful of educated you are there is just something that you wont get right ngabo/kubo. If Eric Bennet can cheat on Halle Berry so what do u think amadoda oCnglemother would do bengekho bahle nakangako, girls i think we should have taken this to the other off the topic blog coz vele siyabheda nje.

Porsch
12 Mar 2008 02:36

girls i think we should have taken this to the other off the topic blog coz vele siyabheda nje. LOL>>>>>>>>>Sorry Toxic

slera
12 Mar 2008 02:39

Preshiii
12 Mar 2008 02:39

shes too calm man, even when someone is crying next to her, she just sits there and ask, "How do you feel?" ....bitch i'm crying,that's how i feel right now nx.....

LOLOLOLOL @ Felfel!!!

slera
12 Mar 2008 02:42

The show is just boring and Doris is beatiful but presenting is not her thing.As for here name what can I say ho ho ho !! thats all

myname
12 Mar 2008 02:49

Morning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My beautiful Sotho names are Nakopele (Thubelihle) and Tsatsipele (Sukwelihle) LOL (not sure if im translating right).........Back to the topic. I did not watch it but i remember the 1st one who was presented by Mpho was not appetizing at all and i wont b surprised even if this one is a flop

Mphoyame
12 Mar 2008 02:53

Thanx;; I met a girl from East London called "Mindyou"

Ngqesta
12 Mar 2008 03:08

@wetlips............have you ever notice how Xhosa's love to mix their lingo with English esp. the ones from PE....

I think this is such a stereotype. From what I have noticed, most people speaking African languages hardly ever finish a sentence without putting in at least one English words....and this is across the board.

Boza
12 Mar 2008 03:46

The show is veeeeeeeeery boring. Shame Doris wa batho.....i wonder who does her hair, and the clothes she wears......mm

Lex
12 Mar 2008 04:09

Mphoyame, check ur guestbook for names I'm gonna give you.

Claire and Doris are very beautiful women,I agree,mare Doris needs to leave that show pronto.

wetlips
12 Mar 2008 04:32

@Ngqesta.. what i meant was for e.g ngifeelisha ngathi nzoba Sick uya understandisha sana.....(i feel like i'm gonna be sick) ...why do the have to speak like that if they want to speak english why ba sa buwe English not mix them like that ...tha's why they name their Kids abo Nomaitaly, Nomasaturday, Nomavenda, itoni, ntoni

Ngqesta
12 Mar 2008 04:58

@wetlips.....well I stayed both in PE and CT.....and have never had anyway speaking like that. Am Xhosa, and i certainly don't speak like that, and neither are my friends and/or relatives.........

Tynt!
12 Mar 2008 05:06

Still on names
Once dated a guy by the name of Tshinyelo= in english (TOILET ) eurrrrrrrrrrrrr......

He was the complete opposite thou, he he he

tizoz
12 Mar 2008 06:21

I think the tittle can help us we need to forgive etv and forget that they ever had this show.

I LOVE KHUMBUL' EKHAYA

Renegade
12 Mar 2008 06:26

Lol @tizoz

we need to forgive etv and forget that they ever had this show.

Classic stuff!

Toxic
12 Mar 2008 06:34

LMAO Tizoz-------they are not letting us forget though!!

tizoz
12 Mar 2008 06:40

I hope I will still have a Jay Oh Bee after my comment

Segololo
12 Mar 2008 10:48

I went to school with Doris - back then we called her Lesego! I bumped into her the other day and she is still as tiny as she was back at shool. I just wonder why she used her second name rather than her first name? maybe it so she can't confuse things with people that really know her and those that see her on F&F... AND I had to tell you! Damn!

Cande
12 Mar 2008 11:05

I wish i could remove my 'christian' name. I heard i need to pay about 150 to remove and get a new ID..I cant stand the Home Affairs queus and i am scared i might come back Mrs Kotongo.. She must go back to the Lesego name man, i dont like English namer.. That Magogo from forgive and forget is a living proof how alcohol can finish you, am quitting NOW!

Toxic
13 Mar 2008 00:29

That Magogo from forgive and forget is a living proof how alcohol can finish you, am quitting NOW!

LMAO Cande!

Phila
13 Mar 2008 03:28

I'm giving birth soon, PLEASEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee come with suggestions for a tswana name (girl & boy) I'm expecting twins

Mphoentle for the gal & Realeboga for the boy!

Mphoyame
13 Mar 2008 04:40

Thanx Phila, but my first born is Mphoentle she's 3

tizoz
13 Mar 2008 09:59

The girk is Doris and the boy should be Samson

tizoz
13 Mar 2008 10:07

WhiteSockGirl
13 Mar 2008 11:28

Tox, I don't know the show but those question,... so standard and so urggggggggggggggh
Tyra also likes to do that stupid question thing... I just wonder don't they watch the show themselves afterwards because learly if you watch the show, you can see those questions do not work. Why ask them show after show... leave that damn questions for the shrinks..

it is difficult to describe your feelings.... and to express them to strangers... it is expecting a bit much.

cnhlanhla
13 Mar 2008 13:01

Forgive & Forget, Heart Core and Khumbul'ekhaya.... kanti yini umahluko vele?

cnhlanhla
13 Mar 2008 13:04

Forgive & Forget, Heart Core and Khumbule'khaya.........kanti yini umahluko vele?

Trix
14 Mar 2008 08:00

Hi guys jus decided to butt in...... the show doesn't interest me much, I seem to be more interested in what she's wearing; dress, shoes, etc. than what she is waffling on about.

She was wearing this flimsy green number..... and did you notice that it was showing off her G-string..... well, with her being all pregnant and stuff the strings were digging into her backside around the hip area. It's hard not to have noticed, coz she kept on going up and down, in and out of that combi of hers!!!

Talking about preggy presenters....... Khumbule'khaya seems to be getting a bit rounder around the mid area these days...??? Don't tell me they are starting their own trend of preggy presenters....... like what's happening with all them Hollywood ladies.

lucia
17 Mar 2008 02:35

I've got a friend. Her name is Nomachina. she is Xhosa

Tholkhe
17 Mar 2008 05:18

Doris is very beautiful but i dont understand is she pregnent or not

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