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Will you move in with me?

Written by carino from the blog Carinos Box on 18 Oct 2010
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This is a subject I have been wanting to discuss for a very long time. I need to do something about this laziness I have of putting my thoughts on paper. There was a time I kept a daily journal. These days I am even lazy to jot down some inspirational lines that come to head during the course of the day. That can’t be normal.

Anyway, I have wanted to write something about “living together before marriage” for quite some time – I just never got to it – I’m in that position when I have so much to say and it’s just that I get overwhelmed trying to put it word for word.

So yha… being in a relationship and emotionally committing to it is a lot of work as it is (well, that’s just my opinion), deciding to get married and living happily ever after (well, at least trying) is a big step, but moving in together is totally something else.

The intention of this article is to just pick the bloggers’ brains.

Do you think cohabiting is the safer alternative to ‘till death do us part”?
Are you cohabiting or have you considered it?
What do you think are the pros and cons?

move in boxes

I know couples who are in it by default. The relationship reached a level of maturity where living apart just didn’t make sense anymore. If we are always together anyway, we have committed to each just as much as a married couple, and the only thing standing between that Mr and Mrs title is the delivery of a few cows to my parents, why not go practical and we’ll see all formalities later?

marry move in

Then there are cases where “we are doing it to help us decide whether or not marriage and building a family will be an option”. This is the saddest situation, I think. It’s those ones when the guy organizes a romantic dinner and presents you with a box. You are so excited when he goes down on one knee… next thing… it’s a set of keys. Here it’s not like you have decided to build a future together yet. It’s a pilot kinda thing – a trial run so that if I can’t handle your socks on the floor and the way you leave the toilet seat up and you don’t understand how come I don’t know how the vacuum cleaner works, we can decide to go our way – Besides, we are not bound to each other and there are no divorce procedures to go through.

toilet roll


Then again these days there are cohabitation contracts that we can bind ourselves with especially if we plan to do things jointly like buy property and that sort of thing.

see what happens


On the other hand, though I didn’t want to be any religious about this and discuss how living together is an obvious indication that you have broken the first law of #keepinitforhubby… Mostly in Christianity, this becomes an issue when your relationship with God suffers because of it. You see when you take your prayer time seriously and you feel guilty that you can’t exactly go on your knees and say “Father this, Father that” with the same knees that you were on to give it to him in that oh-so-compromising position… then you might as well come out of one of the relationships. Either this natural one, or forget about making it work with God.

true love waits

This argument then leads me to question what exactly marriage is. I’ve got a friend that argues that the decision to get married is already marriage. The commitment between the two people, without being sealed by no priest nor court paper or cows or even a ring.. is a marriage. In that case, the two people can act like married couples do and God will accept them because the agreement is there and it’s not like they are killing people. – in fact they are making them (children).

So yes… outside the religious circle, does cohabitation actually work? Is it better or does it just make things more complicated?

When I have agreed to marry you before witnesses n’all… and we have a piece of paper to prove it – and I’m called by your surname nogal, that should put some restrictions to how I treat you or how I don’t treat you. Or isn’t that the case?

When I haven’t sworn to be with you till either one of us dies, there are lesser chances of me hiring hit men at some point in time just because I think my name is on a certain policy. Or kanjani?

When I’m not called by your father’s name I have better freedom to tell your mother and your aunties to mind their own businesses akere?

What do you think, bloggers?

hands almost




Note: pictures were stolen from several sites across the net



84 Comments

GML
18 Oct 2010 15:09

Hmmm.

Moving in together and deciding to marry each other depends on the maturity of the people involved.

If you're moving in together for the sake of "saving" on certain things without discussing the future could lead to time wasted.

Cohabiting will work if both parties agree to the terms of moving in together and what the future holds for them.

myname
18 Oct 2010 15:19

Thanks Carino.

I have so many q's regarding this topic coz i've been proposed kayi 2 & both those relationships never lasted. So always ask myself what if i said YESSSSSSS?

poshspice
18 Oct 2010 16:20

@ Makisto, agree

It’s an individual choice...it's works for some and doesn't for others.

Recently, I've had to take in someone because they were going through financial problems. Because I was there when the money was pouring in and benefited, I felt obliged to assist and my friends begged me not to dump him then (of course they enjoyed the parties and outings).

While I felt he was irresponsible and I do not owe him anything, why did he spend his money on me or other ‘luxuries’ while he did not have money to maintain his basic needs such as shelter..

I've heard of similar stories, partners who end up with the other half by default, (the lease expired etc). The person moves in and getting them out becomes a hassle.

Before this I had made it clear that I am not willing to move in with a man, it’s a personal decision based on my personal principles and the church thing is hard hey, it leaves you conflicted....

Green.arrow
18 Oct 2010 16:31

wow. This is a tough one. I particularly empathise with the situation when you are a christian  and you are put in a tough situation/corner like makisto was, and i know several such complex situations. And here i always advice that one must make a decision for which you will be at peace and sleep well at night. With Hebrew 8: 7-12 in mind.


But from the perspective of someone who has never been put in such a corner.....My conviction 100% says cohabiting is a nig NO for me. And my conviction is not only informed by my being a Christian ,but also by my family background, i would be the first at home, and my family would be terribly dissapinted in me,they literally would be in pain. I have never even entertained the thought, and its always been one of those things im clear about from the get go...

tshetlha
18 Oct 2010 16:35

@tzhavile, Im loving you so much right now....i totally agree with you. I think it's just like Makisto is saying, what works for couple A, might not work for couple B. You have to be ready to get married, not because you want to be able to have sex, babies and stay together. You have to get married because you love each othr so much and are very ready finally and emotionally to commit legally.

Cnglemother
18 Oct 2010 18:05

mmmh....?Cariri its a tough one.will be back afta 11 with ma 2c worth.

Cnglemother
19 Oct 2010 01:19

im not a staunch christian,i have a flexible belief system and so not against certain arrangements as long as they are done with maturity and understanding.In a perfect world one would wait for marriage but its not guaranteed that we will all get our last names changed.I dont see myself at 40 doing amasleep ova kwaboyfrend just coz im avoiding ivat and sit.should i hit a certain age without a ring on my finger i will be left no with no choice but to consider it.main reasons being companionship and some stability.team vatandsit!

Cnglemother
19 Oct 2010 01:24

i pray that i dont ever do it for financial gain/problemz.

Green.arrow
19 Oct 2010 02:24

Carino, if i may please post this video, by Pastor Justin of P4CM. It focuses on one special subject, but i feel it is relevant in many cases for the Christian audience who are conflicted even on the subject at hand...The presentation is very funny, but it also has so much truth (for the Christian audience who seek to live by His ways) , presented in a way ive never heard b4..but then pastor justin is just that much unorthodox. Im addicted to his channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_azDtsI_Bkc

poshspice
19 Oct 2010 09:22

@i pray that i dont ever do it for financial gain/problemz.

Unfortunately, I think the majority of live-in arrangements are due to financial issues...especially in big cities, with both males and females...

carino
19 Oct 2010 10:02

I loved reading the replies..

@makisto I think it is wrong because thina abazalwane I couldn't take her to church with me and she wouldn't go to her church as I was going to my church. I felt guilty at church amd when the pastor preaches, it's like he sees what you are doing and gets personal with you.

LOL first, then...  its very true on the guilt part. My pastor has a saying that says "if it is worth doing, do it right" He emphasises that even when you decide to sin...sin properly so that you don't go to hell for small sins - go all out. lol. So this guilt thing means one is not on either side. You are not fully enjoying living with y our person so whats the point?

@GML. Moving in together and deciding to marry each other depends on the maturity of the people involved.

Very true. So basically when you decide to do it, you should be past the 'what will people say' stage.

kwa kwa kwa kwa @cnglema I dont see myself at 40 doing amasleep ova kwaboyfrend just coz im avoiding ivat and sit.

@Pruluv I agree with you especially when children are involved.

pele
19 Oct 2010 10:52

its a big NO for me, i love my space and peace, i cant even stand my girlfriend visiting the whole weekend. when i am alone i get to do as i please not thinking about someone else. 
Recently i have been dating this wonderful woman its been 6 months now, and i enjoy her company, she gets offended when i ask her gently to only come at least on a  Friday and leave Saturday's afternoon, she doesnt understand it, she gets cross and i alwys feel guilty and give in though i  know deep inside i would love to be on my own. Vat n Sit is out, maybe when i reach my forties i will change for now, it's a no-no!!

TheLady
19 Oct 2010 11:12

When I was younger I thought I wouldn't do it, but a couple of months ago I was ready to. I had even cancelled my lease. 3 days before the move I saw a side of him that made me change my mind. So ya I am now not against moving in with someone anymore.

Green.arrow
19 Oct 2010 11:58

LOL pele...

Its strange hearing a guy say that?...i know i love my space also to the extent i even schedule alone times....I will tell whoever wants to come over gore "that saterday is not good", i wont tell them why,bcos the reason would be that i want my alone time. Guess its also another reason cohabiting is not for me.
I feel so exhausted when i have visitors for a weekend,let alone a week...and it happens often lately with all this growing up and staff.

kellogs
19 Oct 2010 13:09

my man is from a big family, he is child no 11, with 6 brothers, as per their father, he can't get married before all the other brothers, we have been together since 2006, we bought a house & car together last year and have a baby on the way, since marriage is not gonna happen anytime soon we went and did "union of partnership" whereby we are life partners and i am the official spouse, we obviously do wanna get married but we have to wait, so for now #team vatnsit it is...

pele
19 Oct 2010 13:20

GA---I suffocate when i have visitors, i will be so exhausted after they have left.  the thing is i work in a demanding job, weekends are my me time where i can be creative, read a book write eher and there and be able to be myself. it's  real not about being a man or woman it's about finding your true self and i find my real presence when i am alone. Vat n sit will kill me or my partner as i will sit in the room alone not wanting to talk for hours. When i go home on Dec holidays my family knows i love my space, you hear them whispering and talking about how moody i am heheh

kellogs..tjo what if the older brothers never get married?

makisto arent you married na?

MAGNET2DISASTER
19 Oct 2010 13:27

i lived with aguy who was a pain in the ass for 2years,i moved out a few weeks back becoz i realised that enaf is enaf.living with someone means you see them everyday which could be overwhelming especially if you have problems,i think he and i kissed atleast once in the last 6monthsand i dont even remember when we last had sex!its like he got so used to me that i finally lost value in his eyes.i`ll only do that again when i am married coz by then i`ll be more mature and maybe i would have gained experience towork on my marriage and keep it as exciting as possible,for now n o NO!

pele
19 Oct 2010 13:32

Magnet my sister said to me if you move in with a man is like taking a taxi, taxi drivers will beg you to get in to their taxis but once inside  and have paid their taxi fare they will treat you like scum and  even pass your destination 'ngamabom' as you no longer valuable to them,  you are only valuable while outside. She said this after she was kicked out by her boyfriend after cohabating with him for 2 years!

CNAZO A.K.A NAUGHTYGAL
19 Oct 2010 13:38

Will you move in with me? its a big NO to me,i 
like having my own time and doin my things at mw own time..staying with a guy nah its a big step to me....

Green.arrow
19 Oct 2010 13:42

Suffocation!!..perfect word. In an effort not to make my visitors feel bad, i tell them to feel at home and ask to be axcused while i do something else...away from them. Which is why i find having internet, dstv , playstation and all other resources that i will be adding more in future will help my visitots keep busy while i ...have an hour of me time whilst they are arround. 

Vat n sit will kill me or my partner as i will sit in the room alone not wanting to talk for hours...and its bcos of this that i also dont want a roommate. My 4rth year room mate who was also my class mate and friend used to get offended and hurt that i sometimes would just put my earphones and just get lost in myslef...she would even cry sometimes. So to avoid her hurting and crying i would suffocate myslef trying to accomodate her by not going into my "zone" as she would call it, but as the word suggest,suffocating oneself is deadly,by august, i was even sick of all that "suffocation"...i was exhausted. I dont ever wanna share ever again, unless its family coz they also know how i get...or a good friend who knows and understand my antics. But i dont trust friends, that friend was sure she knew me and i was certain she understood me only to be suprised later.(And i warned her that especially that year,i needed a lot of time alone).
Sometimes i think its a disease...it doesnt feel healthy this habbit?

Cnglemother
19 Oct 2010 13:43

kwa-kwa-kwa!hayini pele!usemncinci wethu you will get ova yo need of space and me only time once u hit 30 and ova.

maud
19 Oct 2010 13:44

hey i am so tempted to reply, but let me just read , i have to admit nice article , 
what i can say is that living with someone wether married or not its not easy, 
amuntu uyadika uma e thanda .

nice
19 Oct 2010 13:44

There was a time when I was sure that it is wrong, now i dont know anymore.

Should I decide to, he cant move in with me at my place ...........my family would murder me.....................I may move in with him though, they will be disappointed but maybe, just maybe they may understand.

Let me read the responses from you all, and I may be convinced as I am on the fence

Cnglemother
19 Oct 2010 13:45

uyagula GA lol!

Green.arrow
19 Oct 2010 13:50

they will treat you like scum and even pass your destination 'ngamabom' as you no longer valuable to them...what a hectic analogy pele. 
@Magnet...good on you honey.

@ kellogs, what a hectic situation. My cosin brother tried to wait for his big brother but after waiting so long, buying house and even having a child with the girlfirned he ended up giving up. He got married last month and now big brother is reaaaaly being pressured which i think is a bit sad coz he is not as affluent as the little brother. 

Dragonflykie
19 Oct 2010 13:50

Cohabiting without the benefit of the matrimony is 'Way to go' LOL

Green.arrow
19 Oct 2010 13:53

kwaa kwa kwa...you guys. Anybody has doctor Phill's numbers..or bettre yet, di contacts tsa Relate? .
Heeeence guys i not only dont think cohabiting is for  me...i think marriage is not for me either. #confession.
Kodwa maybe i will outgrow this..my mom says.

Green.arrow
19 Oct 2010 13:58

No realy i hope i outgrow this bcos even though im not really keen on getting married. I wanna adopt kids, and i was actually thinking about it recently that i do not wanna find myself giving them current bcos of my desire for me time. But ive got a couple of years b4 i head to the adoption agencies and ill look into this situation.*

MAGNET2DISASTER
19 Oct 2010 14:01

@G.A i believe in soulmates,wait for yours and gal i am telling you,your opinion on marriage issues is going to change.you will just snap out of it!

Cnglemother
19 Oct 2010 14:07

GA you dont wana pop them out of yo own uterus?i know adoption is an option but im just curious?

FK
19 Oct 2010 14:14

Nice article Cariri and I enjoyed reading the comments.

From a christian perspective I know it is wrong however, some time last year I found myself giving shelter to my man.  Yes, he was going through a phase and was looking for a place to stay.  1st 3 nights were okay, and then after, I felt I was suffocating.  Wanted my space, wanted my side of the bed, wanted my remote all to myself and hated the fact that I couldnt do the things I love with him around.  I then started looking for things that would help me in building a strong case that we should not be staying together.  All this time, I even forgot that I love the man.  When he left my house after 3 weeks, I was so relieved.

Will I do it again? NO.

@pele and GA - I understand you perfectly as I see a lot of me in your behavior.  What a relief to know that I am not the only odd one. lol

myname
19 Oct 2010 14:18

Hi guys,

GA you are not sick sana. I'm actually like you but i do visit my friends and they  visit me but i get angry if they dont make an appointment. You cant just pop in maan thats why I always call if i want to see them.

90% of my weekends i spent them ALONE. I always lie while im inside my gown doing nothing. I normally lock my door and take out my key. I'm indoor chick. It's worse if im single.

Dont get me wrong i love people but i love my space more than anything. I share my shack with another chick but she's always not home on weekends so its ME ME ME and i enjoy that.

I think it's because i grew up with boys so i was always alone ekhaya doing girls stuff.

Dragonflykie
19 Oct 2010 14:23


i am just not a marriage material LOL, i strongly feel that a wedding ring is just a symbol of ownership :)

and again ...

everyone who is in a marriage ... is guilty of wearing blinders LOLEST ...
just my opinion

Cnglemother
19 Oct 2010 14:25

haibo chicks how will ever survive marriage with yo attitudes?should it happen.3wks fela tjo!

myname
19 Oct 2010 14:42

Guys can u help me with these q's.....especially those bloggers who have done it...I just wanna know.

1. Is it important to stay with your man/woman before you get married? If yes, for how long?
2. Do you have to tell him everything you do with your money like how much u give your mom, pay for accounts, buy new clothes and all that stuff?
3. Do you have to cook, iron and clean like a real wife? What happens if you dont feel like doing anything. Does he understand that u dont use everyready powerplus?
4. Do you tell everytime you go out? Who are you seeing? When u will be back? You know those kinda questions.
5. How did you tell your parents? And what was their reaction? My mom always come and see me on June holidays with my son so i dont wanna imagine this. My brother is staying in Joburg, sometimes he calls me when he is down stairs & i've been warning him to stop doing this thing. I can imagine his face.
6. What do you do if u need that ALONE time?....Do you tell the brother or sista to go out and see his/her friends? i know u do need it vele.

Green.arrow
19 Oct 2010 14:52

@Magnet....soulmate...lol, u reminded me of mokgonyana mmatswale last friday. I was told that some guy will come and scoop my heart when i least expect it....well...it remains to be seen i guess, but im not holding my breath.

@Cnglema....dont i wanna pop them out  my uterus?. Honestly...the fact that popping freaks me out is one major reason....i tried watching a 5 minutes child birth video and i was screaming like crazy..im very scared. But from very early on the idea of adoption was just close to my heart. i told my mom when i was 18 and she said i was carzy, i felt i was legal and my mom would help me while im at school,but she gave that scary eye and years later i understand having done my research and grown up, and the idea gets comfotbale in my herat every day...
IF i get married, i will see about popping, but since im not thinking about it..ill cross that bridge when i get to it, 
PS: and when i say im not keen on marriage i also mean im not keen on relationships as well. Which also mean ill be a single parent to my adopted kids and there wont be no uncle Thabos and uncle Clark etc...


i get angry if they dont make an appointment....lolest myname. I feel you honey. My friends drop by unannounced bcos they know i tend to plan "alone days". So they drop by...and the ignore me and let me scream for 5 minutes and afterwhats i actually enjoy their visit. And while i do make initiatives to visit....most of the time i get kidnapped from church or if we meet somewhere and thts how i do sleepovers..never planned.

Green.arrow
19 Oct 2010 15:14

@Myname...i wuld hope those are the kind of questions discussed during marriage councilling with bo ma at home after lobola, or at church or even with proffesional  marriage councilers.

To answer Cnglema's question on how we would cope should we get married...i think when that time comes, bcos one should give marriage serious thought before getting into it, a part of the preparation for marraige should be confronting those issues and perhaps at the time we will be willing to put them "issues" aside for the commitment that is marriage.

And i think as you said cnglema earlier...cohabiting should be done just as maturely and thoughtfully as getting married is done if it is meant to work out. Though must go into both, conciderations and compromises will have to made...one of which for some of us will be this  "alone time" situation and more. Hence both shouldnt be a haphazard decision.

Dragonflykie
19 Oct 2010 15:15

Amen to that Green.arrow

pele
19 Oct 2010 15:17

makisto i am not moody i am the only boy with 5 women in the house and tjo they can talk shame...
tltlltlt with other silly comments , tjo you guys ..

Sslave
19 Oct 2010 15:19

Lol nice article. Enjoyed the replies too. Very interesting.

I have been vat n setting for about 4 months now and I'm enjoying it so far. Fortunately I'm nothing close to boGA le bo myname. I love having people around. I don't remember the last time I had a me time.. I actually don't know what a me time is. I'm always with him accept when we're at work, we call each other everytime we get the chance anyway...

Vat n sit is working just fine for me and ofcourse we do get the occasional lectures about how wrong it is and against our Christian beliefs. But we are committed to each other and yes we do talk about getting married one day but until then we shall cohabit.

Green.arrow
19 Oct 2010 15:26

What do you do if u need that ALONE time?....
That's a difficult one because when I needed me time to think, she would question me about what I was thinking and a I hated it.
lol...hectic makisto...i know not all women are like this, but most are...im not rulling myself out...lol

@Sslave...u remind me of one of my friends who doesnt get this "alone time" thing i do. I just never get lonely...okay maybe 1% of the time and when that happens, i load a series or stand up comedy video. So i told my friend that ill take her to an isolated island so she can be alone for a week, and she was like..."if you think im not innovative you'll see ho just how innovative ill get...ill build a boat from leaves and come back to civilisation"..lol. She hates being alone that one.

One and Only
19 Oct 2010 15:36

Brother&Sisters, Potential Lovers&Foes

No religion condone cohabiting and/or sex before marriage, I have a felling that if some were not Christians we would be talking a different story.

I think co-habiting gives you a better chance to get to know better the person you might spend the rest of your life with or not. You get to know the bad behaviour of a person beforehand and decide if you can cope with it for the rest of your life.

I'm also my own person who likes to have his own space. My partner knows this and respects my space in such a way that sometimes we spend +/-4 days without talking not because we are angry at each other but because I don't feel like talking.

Cohabiting and Sex before marriage are the 2 sins I'm ready to die for because I don't dream of and see my myself being married one day. So manje ngzoyeka inkomo imnandi kanje!

poshspice
19 Oct 2010 15:42

My fear about living together early is really on hearing stories of how married couples get bored with each other after years of being married (meaning living together), I feel I need to prolong my singlehood because when you get married it should be for ever...so after 35 should be a good time to start thinking about sharing my space..

Savanah Dry
19 Oct 2010 15:49

I tried it once and we were happy until i wanted more from the relationship and the guy wouldn't give what i wanted Marriage....in my culture you have to be married to have a baby.... and at that stage i wanted to have a baby but i couldn't out of wedlock hence we broke up

3 years later i met him again had a go at it again but because we were towns apart it worked until he decided to look for a job in my province and stayed with me the 1st month Like FK i felt crowded and forgot that i loved this guy and that drove us apart again, Now i am not sure if i can do the whole marriage thing

I want my remote to myself i want my bed to myself and yes i wanna get calls from friends and laugh without the Eye on me , i cant even Chat with friends after work until 12 midnite so heck no I've had my fair share of Vatn sit

poshspice
19 Oct 2010 15:49

One and Only: "My partner knows this and respects my space in such a way that sometimes we spend +/-4 days without talking not because we are angry at each other but because I don't feel like talking. "

so what's the point of staying together if you are not going to talk to me for 4 days? let me visit when we miss eachother. are you guys planning to have kids? just thinking about bringing up kids in such a cold environment!

"Cohabiting and Sex before marriage are the 2 sins I'm ready to die for because I don't dream of and see my myself being married one day."

lol

Sslave
19 Oct 2010 15:54

"if you think im not innovative you'll see ho just how innovative ill get...ill build a boat from leaves and come back to civilisation" lolest I feel your friend GA.

My partner knows this and respects my space in such a way that sometimes we spend +/-4 days without talking not because we are angry at each other but because I don't feel like talking. +/- what??? You're kidding wena One & Only? I'd die from that. Even if things are not fine between us, I still demand you to talk to me, hold me, kiss me and do stuff to me.. I call it "separating issues"

Lela
19 Oct 2010 16:03

Well first let me just say, Christians do get on all fours even when not vat n siting so that sin is sin whether or not uyahlalisana. Personally I got vat n siting by default maybe the relationship had grown to that level or the circumstances of the unplanned blessing we got, either way we ended up staying together. I do cook,clean and all that,he does help like once in a blue moon. We do address finances like who pays for what and we have to report our whereabouts to each other. As a Christian I do feel it's wrong because now you sin everyday instead of once a week or once in two weeks. We are both Christians so we pray together but mna ndiba a bit uncomfortable praying knowing I'm about to sin,ubhuti yena says that's the devil holding me back from praying. Yona it has really affected my prayer life shem and I feel it may have other effects on our marrige but I don't wanna get too deep.

Lobby the girl
19 Oct 2010 16:08

I didn't wanna reply to the article as it brings back old wounds but wat the hell..

I used to do vat en sit a year ago, my patrner and I understood each other and respected our privacies..like the monies and all..we helped each other financially but the part of knowing how much i give my mother and stuff, never happened, and like OnO said, we had our own time, sometimes we can spend a day not talking but giving each other some space, he always hated the fact that i wanna go home when i feel like i am suffocating..he would say, just stay and pretend im not here, i wont speak to you until you are ready to speak..
We had our baby and he proposed and all but unfortunately he passed away on an accident when our baby was one month..hectic nhe..my point being the inlaws will treat you like a stranger, we used to buy furnitures and stuff but it ended up being their son's furnitures, forgot that I also , so me being clever and my babe always told me how cruel his family are, he made sure that everything that we bought together was under my name, so I was safe, and the funny part was after the funeral they were funny and everything but immediately after finding out gore everything belongs to me, they were all buddy-buddy and all, never understood until today but for the sake of my daughter never got angry with them..so vat en sit sometimes is not on..

myname
19 Oct 2010 16:14

WOW thanks guys. 

The reason why i asked  these q's is bcoz i still dont know whether i wanna get married one day or not. I just dont understand why do i have to get married. I dont know the reason why  i should get married.  I know im not getting any younger but this thing njee hayi andiyazi. I dont pray for him. I always pray for myself, family, friends, street burgers, sick people etc but not for a husband.

If im involve with some1, i always have a way of turning that subject to something else. I just dont wanna know. Maybe i have a phobia or  im sick.

My friends say i should wait up until i get my soulmate then i'll be singing another tune but andazi ke.

Guys bye, i will see you on Thursday, im off tomorrow. Gudnyt

MAGNET2DISASTER
19 Oct 2010 16:15

i am really sori about your man lobby,you wont believe this but tears are streaming down my cheeks as we speak.shem,how is the baby?i get so emotional sometimes especially during my periods,hormones i guess!

One and Only
19 Oct 2010 16:16

Sslave during this period we won't be completely mute but I will reply if you ask something etc but don't expect me to be Rich Forrester all the time.

To the folks who want their own spce- what do you do during this quality time? Odds are that you watch tv/movies or listen to music. Do you still call that quality time?

Me I vat en sit Monday to Thursday because those are the busiest day of my life, after work I go to the gym and get home around 20h00 to have dinner and sleep so whether my partner is there or not I don't even notice.

Friday afternoon to Sunday is what I call my time,. This is the time I use to hang around with friends, visiting family, cheat etc. My partner also goes home during this period.

Green.arrow
19 Oct 2010 16:25

he hee...yazi OandO.....you are very consistant. lol.

Lobby the girl
19 Oct 2010 16:36

MAGNET2DISASTER  Dont worry my Dear, i am fine..and the baby is fine as well..
Eish atleast u never said Im sorry, lol..days of me crying are over Dear is time to move on..

poshspice
19 Oct 2010 16:46

Is it important to stay with your man/woman before you get married? If yes, for how long?
 
I think it is after the engagement or lobola has been paid...

Do you have to tell him everything you do with your money like how much u give your mom

I don't think so, let's discuss how we pay our shared expenses but what you do with the rest of your money has nothing yo do with me and visa vesa, as long as we both responsible. Unless we are going through a difficult patch financially and mom needs money and it will affect paying my share of bills, then I'll have to discuss it with the partner

What happens if you dont feel like doing anything


Make an effort. if you don't like cooking let him know but at least cook 3 times a week or on weekends cook up a storm or ask him what will be acceptable to him. If you don't like doing laundry, buy a washing machine or pay someone to do the laundry ...just make sure it is done....But I'll do these wifely duties  after he has put a ring on my finger, before that...I treat him as a boyfriend!   if you are hungry I don't feel like cooking, you know where the oil and mealie mealie is at, so hamba uyogoqoza i papa, phela some benefits are only reserved for husbandsor fiancees..there has to be a difference...

poshspice
19 Oct 2010 16:51

Phephisa lobbygirl...I believe he is now your guardian angel!

Tshd21
19 Oct 2010 19:09

i am really sori about your man lobby,you wont believe this but tears are streaming down my cheeks as we speak.shem,how is the baby?i get so emotional sometimes especially during my periods,hormones i guess!


Not to sound insensitive or anything...but this comment just cracked me up, LMAO


This is a very interesting subject. I'll comment tomorrow because I still have to think carefully  about what I want to write, tl tl tl



Cnglemother
20 Oct 2010 00:06

thanx Cariri and bloggers very informative,makes you go mmmh....?lol@myname for not praying for a hubby,funny thing is that you will probably get it b4 sum of us who actually pray and are really hungry for it.i even told maself i will buy a diamond wedding ring should i be unlucky and just rock it.

MAGNET2DISASTER
20 Oct 2010 07:25

@cngle,in my culture its bad luck to wear a ring before you get married,an engagement ring stays in your jewellery box until the wedding day so be careful not to jinx yourself

pele
20 Oct 2010 07:52

One and Only:
 To the folks who want their own spce- what do you do during this quality time? Odds are that you watch tv/movies or listen to music. Do you still call that quality time?

i sleep, sit and think, read a book9right now i am prcatising teh power of nowby Eckhart Tolle), i call it qaulity time  because it truly refreshes my mind, when i i'm home in EL, I will go take a long walk in the beach, smiling alone, reminiscing about stuff and questioning my risky desicions, man i know i am a complicated soul.... but it really work for me..

i dont watch too much tv as i usually doze off, the only time i talk too much is when i am blogging and spending time with my girl believe you me i can talk....

pele
20 Oct 2010 07:57

Mbulela-- i am laughing at the fact that you are a shopholic. more tahn you wife man what do you buy excpet books clothes?. ..lol!
and welcome to our blog land...

Vesa
20 Oct 2010 08:24

Off-topic, can one of the writers ba la ekhaya do a review of Intersexions please?

Sorry Carino 

Zah000
20 Oct 2010 08:55

Interesting read and LOL to some comments. Thanks Carino

I second that @Vesa

carino
20 Oct 2010 09:18

Off-topic, can one of the writers ba la ekhaya do a review of Intersexions please?

I know the call is to the writers... but nna I thought of it and thought eish.. the storyline is too engaging I might miss some parts.
If anything, I actually wanted to talk about last night's Jam Sandwich. heheh..

carino
20 Oct 2010 09:19

...and I went to Morkels to pick up a fight with the manager this morning and demanding a replacement TV ...


LMAO makisto..maybe you should give SpeakOut a call

Vesa
20 Oct 2010 10:08

Haai Carino, by writers I meant everyone that does blog posts on tvsa.....not necessarily writers by profession

Green.arrow
20 Oct 2010 10:13

lo makisto ka ...diWhite people 

As things stand..ill probably never get to see this intersexion tht ppl are raving about...growing up sucks sometimes...so much to do im going crazy.

carino
20 Oct 2010 10:44

Hey Vesa.. I know

Kim Possible
20 Oct 2010 11:19

ON TOPIC -Nice read Cariri...  LOL at yall replies esp  GA & OnO

OFF TOPIC -
eish missed it also....pretty please with a cherry on top can we have the reviews/ recaps on Intesex ntoni ntoni!  

maud
20 Oct 2010 11:23

@Vesa- i had to tell that it was so sensitive, they showed us how Dj Mo and Mandisa met and fell in love, moved together ,DJ  Mo started making money and hanging around with girls disobey Mandisa until Mandisa left him and come to Joburg.
its a pity because i cant take you word by word but there was a scene wereby Dj Mo,s friend ask if he has a condom ohh my God the look he gave it to him it would kill the mamba

When Mandisa left DJ Mo begged her to stay and he dedicated the show in telling people that sometimes you do things without thinking and you end up loosing and hurting those you love.

carino
20 Oct 2010 12:01

Kodwa kengoku xasithethela phantsi. Do DJs do that, like act their lives out on their radio shows? Like, when he got it he announces – when he sleeps around he talks about sleeping around. When the girlfriend moves in he comes speaks love to his listeners. When he fights with the girlfriend, he comes and becomes all heartbroken on the mic.

Im just asking.

Nna my favourite scene was when he wanted to run after Mandisa and the guy that im guessing is the producer was like. “This is a national radio station!” and I was like.. ‘yha tell him!!

maud
20 Oct 2010 12:57

i liked the part when mandisa was moving out , when she said to her friend with a nice smile , (This is something i have to Finish myself) . that was when she was taking the key back to Dj Mo.ohh God that Mandisa can act. i felt it , if felt so real , they way she handled the whole issue , she never cried in front of him, she pulled out that i can leave without you face so smooth . i saw myself in her , lets not go there.
@makisto- i so wish to create my own article. but time is not on my side.

carino
20 Oct 2010 13:02

This thing with unprotected sex talked about like this... is that some of us our minds like being quite descriptive and rather graphic - like we sort of imagine the whole thing when we look at the people. Not sure if it is right or wrong.

maud
20 Oct 2010 13:13

hawu batho re a go lebogisa o siami tota, and you must also remember that the person who lost it is on tears as we speak , i dont think he/she will agree with you when you say Modimo olokile .

carino
20 Oct 2010 13:33

heheh.. OFFTOPIC

I just saw Gen Teasers and I had to come laugh quickly at a moment I recall on Generations this week:

It’s a conversation between Karabo and Paul about my Tau Mogale and Karabs says how it’s like Tau is a missing piece of her puzzle he brings everything together and when she’s with him it’s like nothing else matters..they were made for each other... he-he he is the king.. whatwhat..

There goes Paul: “I know. I have that with Dineo”

My reaction – oh puhhlease...liar liar pants on fire... ijo!

Toodecent
20 Oct 2010 13:34

Lol...@ makisto ke chelete yaka.O ko kae?

Lela
20 Oct 2010 14:15

Kwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, @Makisto ulungile nyhani uThixo especially xa uchole le mali,if you had seen the person who dropped it then you would be condemned but now uyitopilt fela enjoy it brother it's your blessing. If I see someone drop something,whether it's money or what I give it back even extra change and God knows I do but if it happens like that then it's yours,like when I forgot to pay my taxi fare when it was even in my hand,only saw it after I got off. I was so happy cause it was R30 and I owed a friend R30 and she got off another taxi after me and I gave her the cash there and then.

maud
20 Oct 2010 14:54

yoo and utshilo Toody gore ulatlegetsi ki R200.00 , Makisto please give Toody his moola please , motholisetse  shame ke sono

bosch
20 Oct 2010 15:19

eish..i hear you guys..interesting read! I have known my boyfriend since 2008, we were friends from then but only started this relationship early this year..A typical day for us is like this...(did i mention we work together..haha..) after work we hit the gym together..from the gym i go to my place to make supper... he goes to his for a bath...but comes to my place for supper and sleep, he wakes up early from my place to start the day at his place..! Everyday since January! the only thing at my place is his toothbrush which i can count the number of days he has used..we are together all the time!! so, technically we do not stay together because he still has his place..wen he is away i feel like a part of me is missing, i just love him and being with him..and i guess the transition to marriage will not be too hectic..

Zah000
20 Oct 2010 15:30

kwaaaaaa @ carino............. Thar woman is/was confused

Vesa
20 Oct 2010 15:45

Thanks guys for the Intersexions recap! 

Makisto, I didn't know gore people still loose money.....o lesego ka nnete

carino
20 Oct 2010 16:18

lol @ makisto joining the dots on bosch

Zilda
20 Oct 2010 16:51

Hello guys!

Carino good topic & loving comments!

Can bloggers help on this one... What does christianity/culture say about a toxic marriage? Reason is a good friend of mine has been in a relationship with her husband for the past 19 years (met while still at Middle School) and married for 18 months. They have 2 kids and have been cohibiting for 8 years until my friend became a Jehova's Witness (only mu friend & not the husband) and they got married and ever since they got married, the husbund has been treating her like trash telling her she forced him into marriage, didn't she get a hint that after 19 years he never proposed! He's cheating & not hiding it & my friend swears by the Bible that it is not Godly to divorce...

As for me, been there, moved in with my baby's daddy and he sponged me like nobody's business. Will I do it again? MAYBE!

FK
20 Oct 2010 17:16

@Zilda - that is a sad story.  From a christian perspective, God says "I HATE DIVORCE" Malachi 

And Mathew 5: 31, 32  says - 31"It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'[f] 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.

So based on your good friend's story, she can divorce the husband because of marital unfaithfulness.

Lex
23 Oct 2010 09:57

Vat en sit ne. Nigger came to Jozi with a huge bag in tow and told me he was moving in with me...can u imagine. I couldnt say no,but I wasnt comfortable with the whole thing,but hey the r/ship was still new & we were both crazy about each other,so I let him stay. To be honest,I really enjoyed living with him,despite the discomfort within me. He cooked,did the laundry, made good love & even rubbed my feet when I got home from work. Mara he was the jealous type,who erased all guys' names in my phone (except for 3 cousins whom he knew personally). The r/ship fizzled out when we moved back home,mara all in all,it was great. But I honestly do not wish to do it again,it is soooo against my Christian & personal principles.


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