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Written by JadaPinkett from the blog BEYONCE SHOWS HER EXPENSIVE RING on 24 Jun 2009
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How do u feel abt English? 

Guyz I know most of us, bloggers always use English coz every time we comment or replying to the given articles by TVSA Admin or to our articles that we’ve created by ourselves we use English so we can all understand. 

Yesterday I was watching Zabalaza on SABC1 they were talking about English dat how good it is en how bad it is. 

As we all know that in life there’s always good side and the bad side of thing of which even English u can also find that. 

Guys we all know that English is the language which the key for everything co z each and evrything of today is enlgish  imean like our current life is english especially u won’t get a good job if u don’t know how to speak it so English is like I compulsory to learn it. And we find that other people really can’t speak it because of different reason and there is no one who is perfect in English …or fine u may think u perfect but lately u find that there’s someone who beating of how to speak because of their bombastic words like one of our bloggers who released an article which have strong words (well that was good of him coz we learnt some of the word we never meet before) that I hardly to understand sometimes u have to use a dictionary. 

I know sometimes we laughed at each other because of poor English we have well we don’t have same minds which can pick quickly like yours maybe and we didn’t go to same school like some of us went to multi schools and others went to government schools like me I went to public school coz that’s what was affordable to my parent and we thina black people we turn to criticise other people’s poor English just because we can’t correct them kanti what’s wrong with people. 

And the the other thing is sometimes we turnly to forget where we coming from because of this English yes it is helpful and a lots but if we going to forget our traditionall thingz because I think dat’s is wrong………….and the bad thing is we can’t even count the number in Zulu or other Afican languages (but I can) and we don’t even know month’s word in Zulu en other African language (but I can) kanti what is the point of leading this country if we gonna use other people’s language.
Mina I know that I’m not good in English but I’m willing to learn it and be a prefect one one day but I also don’t respect my language that’s why I mostly use it, en into engixakayo is why people the need to criticize somebody else's english when,
- What was written was perfectly easy to understand
- The writter's first language clearly is not English.
-The person who criticizes is often monolingual and couldn't even make a   
  sentence in another language, let alone worry about the mistakes!
- Often makes many spelling and gramatical themselves,
- And if you read their back answers, their answers are often stupid and   
  pointless,  and never answer the question. But ke they say an empty mind is the  devil's f  actory (quoted to Asker). Sometimes, some of us are true Grammar Types, who just can't help but correct. Others broadly fall into the empty-mind-looking-for-reason-of-being. They will just criticise any and everything
.

Lastly, many of us are severely underexposed to other people and cultures. We just never know that there is the possibility of another kind of person who does not lead their life like us We know it theoretically, but not experientially. It's one thing to know, it's another to face diversity and being able to adjust oneself.
Guyz there’s a lopt I can tell about this english language but let me not finish it coz I stl wanna hear form you my good people

- Guyz I would like each of us tell us how he/she feels about this language?
- How do you feel about someone who doesn't speak English?
- How do feel about employer requiring you to speak English when you find it to speak but u can able to to do the job so just because you can’t speak English so you won’t get the job …How do feel about that guyz? 

Please forgive me with my poor english and wrong spelling



210 Comments

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 10:25

En wat do think of those young ppl who alwayz speak english even there's some ppl who don't understand it , don't u think it's being rude. or don't u think they only doing it because they want to be a better ppl.

Mathaz
24 Jun 2009 10:30

I guess the problem is that people think that the more fluent you are the more intelligent you are and i find that most people who are fluent are employable mostly in the call centre industry.  I once went for this interview and you know nerves and English don't mix so i requested if i could speak in Sotho and they agreed since they were all black but i still did not get the job.  I guess we are all not proud of our languages.

Mathaz
24 Jun 2009 10:32

What about parents at malls:

Mother:  "Thabo put in on the trolley"
Thabo: "No, mommy, it's in the trolley"

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 10:36

LOL @Thabo en his mom.........anyway uqinisile ma gal they alwayz act as if they advertising english.

cleve
24 Jun 2009 10:37

All I can say is that the english were very good colonists. they did their thing that's why half the world speaks their language.

- Guyz I would like each of us tell us how he/she feels about this language? 
I don't mind the language because if we didn't have english how were we going to communicate in this country, because not everyone wnats to speak zulu. Not everyone wants to speak afrikaans. So which languge in SA would be the main medium of communication.

- How do you feel about someone who doesn't speak English? 
I used to discriminate and think less of you. But I have grown up now because it doesn't mean if you speak english you are intellignet. I have met a lot of people who are gen-Asses but because they can't speka english their intelligence is wasted. It shouldn't be that way. It's quite sad.

- How do feel about employer requiring you to speak English when you find it to speak but u can able to to do the job so just because you can’t speak English so you won’t get the job …How do feel about that guyz?

TerryN
24 Jun 2009 10:38

lol at u two...blogging alone

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 10:43

Terry not really amanye amabloggers are still reading the article hau

cleve
24 Jun 2009 10:44

Eish I pressed the reply button without finishing my post.

How do feel about employer requiring you to speak English when you find it to speak but u can able to to do the job so just because you can’t speak English so you won’t get the job …How do feel about that guyz

That is the worst because you will find that the people who are interviewing you can speak your languge and if you dare speak in your own language you will nto get that job.

We are not the only country that was destroyed by coloniasm. Mozamique, Angola and other african countries use a language that is not originally from that country.


Dash
24 Jun 2009 10:46

I find it very difficult to read an article which is supposedly written in ENGLISH, ENGLISH being the topic and I need to construct each sentence to get a clear understanding of the writer. This is just too much effort.

Please forgive me with my poor english and wrong spelling

I really wanted to read this article and I don’t know if I’ll be able to forgive you because I believe I’m missing out on an important issue.

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 10:49

@ Dash like what maybe if u can tell me

dali
24 Jun 2009 10:52

avuxeni

i wonda how many ppl will understand th estatement above

one thing i've realised is that english is dominent cause we let it, 1stly if we could learn as many south african languages as possible english would jst be another language jst like the rest. english will continue to dominate if we dont stand up en learn other SA languages.

any1 who wants to teach me xhosa en i'll teach them tsonga as well. i think this is a good start.

*i wonder how many ppl r gonna reply in their mother tongue*

lady gaga
24 Jun 2009 10:56

beleive me dats not poor english JP.

as for part ya english, guys i believe its important to know and speak english. not to judge other people who cant or anything like dat, well im not perfect either and i wud appreciate it if somebody corrected me if i say something wrong in english, dat dsn't make me a fool, no bt eatleast now i know what to say in  future.

so people who feel dat why do they have to know english more than their home languages are just plain stubborn,guys this language is used nation wide for understanding one another. we all just have to accept that it is the key to some of the doors in lyf, like finding you a job,etc....

All people must learn to know and understand English, qhaa!!!!!!!!!!

Dash
24 Jun 2009 10:59

like what maybe if u can tell me.. Like the topic at hand, ENGLISH being overvalued/overrated. Still don’t get me? Then my English is bad. We better leave the English to the English then. LOL

cleve
24 Jun 2009 11:00

avuxeni

i wonda how many ppl will understand th estatement above

kwa kwa kwa kwa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mina ngizokhona ukuphendula ngelimi lami, kodwa abanye abantu anyeke bakhone ukufunda umbhalo wami........ hihihih!

Tynt!
24 Jun 2009 11:00

find it very difficult to read an article which is supposedly written in ENGLISH, ENGLISH being the topic and I need to construct each sentence to get a clear understanding of the writer. This is just too much effort.

Please forgive me with my poor english and wrong spelling

I really wanted to read this article and I don’t know if I’ll be able to forgive you because I believe I’m missing out on an important issue.

LMAO!!!

calamity
24 Jun 2009 11:01

I read the first few sentences and just gave up. When we go to interviews we all think that we did well but then who knows, maybe someone did better than you.

realist
24 Jun 2009 11:01

but if we going to forget our traditionall thingz because I think dat’s is wrong………….and the bad thing is we can’t even count the number in Zulu or other Afican languages (but I can) and we don’t even know month’s word in Zulu en other African language (but I can) kanti what is the point of leading this country if we gonna use other people’s language. 

What are those traditional thing you talking about? Don’t these traditional things evolve or do they remain static? Counting numbers in an African language is it that important? Tell me of any so called African radio station which when they talk they do not use English in their sentences.

Other than RSA, where is Zulu and Pedi spoken outside Africa? Tswana is spoken in Botswana and RSA, Sesotho in Lesotho and RSA and siSwati in RSA and Swaziland.

Mozambique and Ghana are now moving into English as the official language, you know why?
It is about economics. If you are as big as China then you can afford to stick your language and the traditional way of doing things.

felfel
24 Jun 2009 11:03

Dash, at the end of the day (or article) u get the gist of wat the writer is trying to say. He has asked to be excused for his 'poor' english so please excuse him. This is not the best written article but the meaning and intention is very clear.

zaa
24 Jun 2009 11:05

Was also watching and it was so sad to see children not able to read their African languages whereas they read/speak English so fluently. If only they could be taught in African Languages as well.  This I blame on the parents, why do you have to communicate with your children in English when at home? 

I agree with one of the Interviewees when she said you can never hear English/Afrikaans people speaking other languages when they are together but with black people it's another story. 

On the Mandoza issue, as much as he said it didn't  bother him that people were laughing at him for not being able to speak English, i did notice sadness in his face...

realist
24 Jun 2009 11:08

Correction, If you are as big as China and you have the buying power, 
 
then you can afford to stick to your language and the traditional way of doing things

Dash
24 Jun 2009 11:08

@ Felfel. I only got to the end of the day (or article) by dragging the mouse to the apology, so I definitely did not get the clear meaning and intention. I’ll rely to the replies for a clear meaning.

Matha
24 Jun 2009 11:10

Can someone help me here is t true that the letter L is not in the japanese alfabet?

Tynt!
24 Jun 2009 11:10

- How do you feel about someone who doesn't speak English?

50% percent of them are unemployed, and the rest of the 50% are self employed. Well some of them are doing well with their businesses, and some are not.. I pity those that are not making it in this world, coz clearly if you do not know English, you are not educated…

Tynt!
24 Jun 2009 11:15

Can someone help me here is t true that the letter L is not in the japanese alfabet?

Yes, It is so true...

lady gaga
24 Jun 2009 11:16

@zaa
Was also watching and it was so sad to see children not able to read their African languages whereas they read/speak English so fluently. If only they could be taught in African Languages as well. This I blame on the parents, why do you have to communicate with your children in English when at home? 

dats one thing dat irritates me, as a parent you have to assist your child when there's a need to, not talk to your child in English even when you are at home. and yes u wnt find white people or english speaking people talking to their children in our african languages when their at home.

maddie
24 Jun 2009 11:18

Thank God for English bathong, otherwise how were we going to communicate with each other especially emzansi where you've got 11 official languages and other people not wanting to learn amalanguages abanye especially some Zulus (oops I'm being controversial again LOL.)

use English appropriately.

what i've noticed about private schools is that our kids come out of there airheads speaking English with an accent, they can't even debate issues, they rather stick to correcting your grammar or spelling or even laugh at you when you can't speak the language properly.


Tynt!
24 Jun 2009 11:19

and yes u wnt find white people or english speaking people talking to their children in our african languages when their at home

I have come across one, well just ONE!!

Matha
24 Jun 2009 11:20

Can someone help me here is t true that the letter L is not in the japanese alfabet?

Yes, It is so true...


Thanks Tynt nowonder why the banks give my younger brother a problem when it comes to payday....his name is Itumeleng. 

Cody
24 Jun 2009 11:20

The first step to learning, is admitting the truth and i am personally very proud of JP and the fact that she said "Mina I know that I’m not good in English but I’m willing to learn it and be a prefect one one day." hence i am getting irritated by people who are critisizing her instead of correcting her, she is willing to learn guys.  TVSA is a very good medium for english lessons because people are always correcting each other. Okay lemme practice what i preach!

English is like I comprisal to learn it 

Did you mean compulsory maybe JP?

Anyway back to the subject i also watched the program, and i must say i am proud that i know my language fluently, i can read fluently without getting stuck and write it. Thanks to my gran who always insisted that I must learn my language.

cleve
24 Jun 2009 11:21

New_ Member
24 Jun 2009 11:22

Greeting everyone!
* still reading the article* it looks interesting...

Tynt!
24 Jun 2009 11:24

nowonder why the banks give my younger brother a problem when it comes to payday....his name is Itumeleng. 
lollest....

lady gaga
24 Jun 2009 11:25

@Tynt!

and yes u wnt find white people or english speaking people talking to their children in our african languages when their at home

I have come across one, well just ONE!!

My point exactly mzala.... yekani bantu abamnyama, sis!!!!!

cleve
24 Jun 2009 11:26

I make sure that my child speaks any language he wishes to speak in my house. But I have taught him zulu and Venda, he learnt english at school. I will encourage him to learn afrikaans and Tswana because the people around him speak those languages. I want him to be able to speak any language and not discriminate because "it's a white mans language". If he knows all of them then the better for him.

Segololo
24 Jun 2009 11:27

English is a communication tool - I have an issue when people want to ridicule my language because they believe that English is better. Nxa! 

lady gaga
24 Jun 2009 11:28

@Cody

Anyway back to the subject i also watched the program, and i must say i am proud that i know my language fluently, i can read fluently without getting stuck and write it. Thanks to my gran who always insisted that I must learn my language.

REKAOFELA NTANGA!!!!!!

Dash
24 Jun 2009 11:29

English is like I comprisal to learn it

Did you mean compulsory maybe JP? If she did then you are a genius Cody.

TVSA is a very good medium for english lessons because people are always correcting each other. Okay lemme practice what i preach!

Following suit...... Microsoft Word has a spell checker. Take advantage of it. When writing a blog, I suggest that one can type the word part on it and cut and paste to the blog and add your fancy picture and stuff.. Busy with a very interesting blog, grammar/spelling checked. Can't wait

Green.arrow
24 Jun 2009 11:31

avuxeni .....if im not wrong about what it means (good morning?..)....i thought it is written .avusheni....

On that note.....Thobela..

English:
I hate that i speak english a lot...but i do....
My little borthers always have to tell me when we're walking back home to eithr not talk or keep it down coz "i embarass them"...ko their kasi crew......

But i DO NOT take kindly to people who critisize me bcos i speak english a lot, because they dont know me, they dont know where i come from and they dont know what makes me.....

My design lectures, one of the most intelligent Profs i have ever met (Prof Te Riele....POWER).....had a very humbling approcah during class(many who knwo him amy argue)
He ddnt care how well phrased the answer came out of your mouth...as long as he felt you understand the principle, he was good......And during the reports, he emphasised on good technical writting...
Most of the engineering/science breakthroughs are done in japan, germany,turkey etc...where they dont speak english, but they have to publish in english....terrible translated english i must say....but thats trivial when you concider the weight of the article...

Ssso..my personal opinion, spoken english means nothing if its empty/blone (excuse me).......when you have a good point, it will come thru whether the english is good or not...and those with ears/eyes will get it the point.


Zimi
24 Jun 2009 11:31

Molweni Bahlali,

Isingesi lelona lwimi livumelekileyo ukuba lisetyenziswe khona ukuze wonke umntu azive enako ukuhlomla kulonto ithethwayo. 

Mna ndiyazidla ngesiXhosa sam. Ndiye ndithi naza ndiye kwezindawo zifana Bank ndifune umntu ozakuthetha isiXhosa ingakumbi xa ndihamba nabazali khona ukuze beve nabo lento ithethwayo ndingabatolikeli.Kodwa kufunaeka ibengumntu oyindoda kuba amabhinqa ona ayadikwa.


@ Dali....

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 11:35


English is like I comprisal to learn it

Did you mean compulsory maybe JP?
Tjo Cody u got me gal dat's exactly wat I meant but ke let me sort it before Dash noticed that.

Positivity1
24 Jun 2009 11:35

Why are we discussing English nge English...heeeheee seriously! Imagine TVSA in all the different languages...there are people who write in their own languages here and unfortunately for me I happen not to understand.

I personally love the language.  I also love Italian and Spanish oh and not forgetting Swahali... 

Question: So if you speak English only does it mean that you don't know your culture or tradition??? I'm really wondering

@ Maddie >>> What this kids have on their side is confidence which by the way is the door opener! Gore you know how to debate issues is not the issue, you just need confidences, period! 

And gal you sound upset...don't let this English speaking can't debate airheads get you down !

Cody
24 Jun 2009 11:36

Thank God i can understand what Zimi has just wrote. Thanks to TVSA! i can now read xhosa, isizulu, sometimes venda and shangaan!

Cody
24 Jun 2009 11:37

Tjo Cody u got me gal dat's exactly wat I meant but ke let me sort it before Dash noticed that.

Too late JP!!!! LMAO!!!

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 11:40

Cody if u can check dear i've corrected my mistake compulsory...thnx again dear

Ha ha ! nice Zimi ndiyaziqhenya ngawe nyani.

awelani
24 Jun 2009 11:41

I speak to my child in TshiVenda and English and I dont see anything wrong with that, and i will teach him how to write and read Tshivenda when the time comes, but right now I will concentrate on teaching him how to write ,speak and read English coz that will the medium language @ school.

Mafresh
24 Jun 2009 11:45

Can Santana speak English? How about that Egyptian coach?

Maar, how much money are they earning. 
Nna I dont get intimidated by lekopokopo le empty nje.

awelani
24 Jun 2009 11:49

Mafresh, Santana has a  translator, if he learnt english he wasnt gonna need 1,lol

Cody
24 Jun 2009 11:50

if u can check dear i've corrected my mistake compulsory...thnx again dear
My pleasure my skat! although you should still think about reconstructing your sentences love. Just re-read the sentences and you will see where your mistake is.

 eg: English is like I compulsory to learn it  

anyway this article is not about english lessons lemme rather talk to JP in private.



awelani
24 Jun 2009 11:51

lol Cody,,Mrs English teacher,

TerryN
24 Jun 2009 11:52

Why are we discussing English nge English...heeeheee seriously

lol positivity
Why is an issue if a black person is battling with english BUT its okay for people like Santana to waffle in english...Eish its hard being black!!!

TerryN
24 Jun 2009 11:52

Why are we discussing English nge English...heeeheee seriously

lol positivity
Why is it an issue if a black person is battling with english BUT its okay for people like Santana to waffle in english...Eish its hard being black!!!

dali
24 Jun 2009 11:55

ina zimi na mina nati nyumgubyisa hi Xitsonga xa ka hina. ririmi ra manana ra nandziha swinene, i khale ni nga se tshama ni tsala hi xitsonga ni nga katsi na xilunghu. na ti nyungubyisa hi mpela.

a hi xidyoho ku tsala hi ririmi ra manana, hikuva loko u nga ti tivi ku hi wena mani a swi pfuni nchumu. hi karhele hi ku kopela xilunghu. se i nkarhi wo ti nyungubyisa hi xintu xa ka hina.

inkomu
dalisto

avuxeni .....if im not wrong about what it means (good morning?..)....i thought it is written .avusheni.......... lol green sho in tsonga is xo

Green.arrow
24 Jun 2009 11:56

lemme rather talk to JP in private.......way to go Cody!......i almost PMd u in this regard....


awelani
24 Jun 2009 11:57

Dali,,Ni ya ku kuma nhe, mara ndi do thoma u xela nne arali na nga amba nga tshiTsonga fhedzi,, habeni rothe a ri ambi dzi nyambo dzi no fana,,

Cody
24 Jun 2009 11:58

I am so proud of a blogger named Mathata, her english is not that good, but hey, what do you know ,she is living in Canada and making moola! while some people who claim to know English are still broke.

zolx
24 Jun 2009 11:58

I'm a Xhosa who speaks my vernac fluently and i went to rural schools but i dont let that stand in my way of speaking English with confidence - cos that's really what it comes to. When you're not confident while speaking the Queen's language you wont raise issues/points that you would have if you spoke in your home language. So we must stop making excuses for ourselves saying we went to kasi schools and all that. we watch tv and most programmes are in English, our textbooks were in English, most magazines that we buy are in English,most newspapers ...i could go on and on. We just need to start reading - doesnt have to be a thick book -even a daily newspaper - it will boost your confidence and English speaking ability.

Yonke lento ngendiyibhale ngolwimi lasekhaya, kodwa ndakhetha isiNgesi kuba ndifuna uviwa ngumntu wonke olapha, so isiNgesi sibalulekile kodwa nezethu iiLwimi masingazilibali. (I could have written all that in isiXhosa, but i chose English as i want everyone to hear/understand me, so English is important but we must not forget our home languages.)

Taken
24 Jun 2009 12:01

Mina isiNgisi ngiyasazi. Abantu abasikhulume kuphela uma kunesidingo. 

Kuyadumaza ukuthi uma ugasikhulumi kahle isiNgisi awuqashwa ngoba isikhathi esiningi laba kanye abaqashwayo ngoba bekhulume kahle isiNgisi ave bevilapha uma sekumele benze umsebenzi.

LM
24 Jun 2009 12:02

DAMN!!!!Blacks are obsessed ka english maaaan!! haaikhona!

He ddnt care how well phrased the answer came out of your mouth...as long as he felt you understand the principle, he was good......And during the reports, he emphasised on good technical writting: Not only your lecturer G.A, many whites(english) couldn't care less how perfect ur english is as long as they grasp what you mean, unless we are talking about snobs or wannabes at JHB Northern suburbs and sorroundings....nna I just don't care whether my bird sounds like bed oksalayo you know exactly what I'm on about

Afrikaaners praat net afrikaans met julle families en miskien almal, they couldn't care less about english, unless we are talking about snobs at JHB Northern suburbs ans sorroundings....

maud
24 Jun 2009 12:02

mina there is no language that i am fluent in,being english or African Languages, ngibamba ngiyeka nje and i dont care. i am staying with three People in my place two kids , they speak their english i answer with my little bit of zulu and little bit of Xhosa sometimes depending on my mood sotho there and there.

angizoziluma emsebenzini ngikhuluma isilungu ngifike nasekhaya ngikhulume isilungu andiphambenanga mna.

SistaBB
24 Jun 2009 12:04

Can Santana speak English? Yes Santana speaks English (But only when Bafana have won, when they have lost he can't utter a word in English)

I dont have any problem with English, I have a problem with people who speak English & think that is when they are educated most....mtsss

I have a problem with people (so called celebs) who do not pay attention to grammar, especially on National Television and they pretend  or go on as if nothing has happened.

I do not like black people who want to speak English with an accent even if they didnt go to them model c schools...eish blacks bathong!!

I do admire or respect Zimbabwens, eventhough most of them are not employed now, almost every Zim speaks English CORRECTLY.

I like it when English does not make some1 forget her mother tongue & culture, i studied African Languages & was minoring in English, believe me our languages are so beautiful and rich and just needs us to speak them with pride. I speak Chinese but still think english will get me anywhere, in the world, therefore, my opinion is that we all need it.

Mafresh
24 Jun 2009 12:04

...Santana has a translator, if he learnt english he wasnt gonna need 1....

My point exactly Awe, if you are damn good at what u do, maybe u wont need English but a translator.

awelani
24 Jun 2009 12:05

lol @ maud

dali
24 Jun 2009 12:05

na ku twa awe  mara xilunghu a xi ni fumi, ni fumiwa hi xitsonga xa ka hina. i swa namunthla ntsena va ka hina mi ta ni khomela.

awelani
24 Jun 2009 12:07

Yes Santana speaks English (But only when Bafana have won, when they have lost he can't utter a word in English>>> LMBAO kwakwakwakwakwa

Ms. Jay
24 Jun 2009 12:07

I find it very difficult to read an article which is supposedly written in ENGLISH, ENGLISH being the topic and I need to construct each sentence to get a clear understanding of the writer's intentions.

A survey was once conducted sometime ago by a group of students studying the human mind and they came to realise that as long as the first and last letters of a word are placed correctly your brain can make out what the words are and you are able to make sense of the intention of the writter, same applies here, Dash its not difficult, her thoughts are not properly laid out as she is translating from her home language to English. [correct me if I am wrong JP] Translation explains why someone who thinks and speaks in Zulu or Xhosa - basically in any language other than the one they are trying to communicate in; incorrectly constructs sentences and often confuses the meaning of certain words and terminology.

As far as I'm concerned, the English and their Queen were very 'greedy' people, they got to most of the world before the French could...hahahahahahhaah their kingdom was just the strongest and I would love to find out why and how such a small kingdom managed to colonise so many countries @ a time with hardly any competetion........my food for thought.......let me google and I will be right back on this one.....

- Guyz I would like each of us tell us how he/she feels about this language? Am ok with it,
- How do you feel about someone who doesn't speak English? I'm indifferent on this one, I cant speak more than 5 languages myself so....
- How do feel about employer requiring you to speak English when you find it to speak but u can able to to do the job so just because you can’t speak English so you won’t get the job …How do feel about that guyz? Its a bit unfair, but hey who said everything in life would be FAIR

a blog within a blog - sorry my love

LM
24 Jun 2009 12:09

airheads speaking English with an accent, they can't even debate issues, they rather stick to correcting your grammar or spelling or even laugh at you when you can't speak the language properly. hihihihihihihihihihi Maddie, like whateverrrrrrrr!!! LOL, I know exactly what you mean!!!

Cody
24 Jun 2009 12:11

hai dali and awelani hini ni amba hi xitsonga, a ni sitwe hi xitsonga tl tl tl! i can pick up here and there but the rest eish!......nc nc nc! how i will love to learn xitsonga

awelani
24 Jun 2009 12:12

LOL LM,, and that 'whateverrrrrr' with an accent,lol

awelani
24 Jun 2009 12:14

Xitsonga ntsena Cody,,thaidzo igai kha tshivenda?? know where ur priorities lie musidzana.

KeleFabulous
24 Jun 2009 12:14

my son started creche just as he was beginning to talk. i don't mean sentences imean 1/2 words. they taught in english at creche and that's the language he learnt. although at home we spoke setswana/zulu he never quite grasped these languages because compared to home, he spent alot of his time in creche.he's now been at home for about 3 weeks and only now is he learning properly setswana/sotho and zulu (all at once!) 
if i could go back i'd keep him at home until he learnt our home language to a satisfactory level before taking him to creche as i've seen gore because that's what they learn and they spend most of their time in creche it becomes harder for them to grasp 2 languages at the same time.
there's nothing wrong with teaching your child english. i think the problem comes when parents completely fail to teach their kids their own mother tongue. i've seen kids as young as 3 and 4 struggle to communicate at family gatherings because all they can do is speak....not nice. not nice at all. BAZALI TEACH YOUR KIDS YOUR MOTHER TONGUE PLEASE!!!

TerryN
24 Jun 2009 12:15

Yes Santana speaks English (But only when Bafana have won, when they have lost he can't utter a word in English) 

ROFLOL

Kuyadumaza ukuthi uma ugasikhulumi kahle isiNgisi awuqashwa ngoba isikhathi esiningi laba kanye abaqashwayo ngoba bekhulume kahle isiNgisi ave bevilapha uma sekumele benze umsebenzi.

@Taken
Uqinisile sisi wami amavila laboMiss "high n might".

SistaBB
24 Jun 2009 12:18

airheads speaking English with an accent, they can't even debate issues, they rather stick to correcting your grammar or spelling or even laugh at you when you can't speak the language properly. hihihihihihihihihihi Maddie, like whateverrrrrrrr!!! LOL, I know exactly what you mean!!!
People like this really irritate me, they are so shallow.

awelani
24 Jun 2009 12:20

which people SistaBB, the 'airheads" or maddie and LM? hi hi hi hi

Taken
24 Jun 2009 12:21

Amen to that  Zolx , reading more really helps. Im a member of a book club, I order books every quarter and I read magazines and play word puzzles. When I tell my friends and collegues they say " ngizenza ngcono".

Mathaz
24 Jun 2009 12:22

dali n'wana manhi, u ti yisile hi fanele hi ti nyungubyisa hi ririmi ra manana.

Dash
24 Jun 2009 12:22

@Ms. Jay. as long as the first and last letters of a word are placed correctly your brain can make out what the words are and you are able to make sense of the intention of the writter, same applies here, Dash its not difficult, her thoughts are not properly laid out as she is translating from her home language to English.
Then we will CONCLUDE by saying that I have a conditioned called “mental retardation” because it was so difficult reading it I started sweating and scrolled up and down the article. The feeling you normally get when reading a very complicated article.

Ms. Jay
24 Jun 2009 12:24

I agree Kele - but what would happen in the event that your child now "chops" languages? neither of the languages he speaks would be clear? they would begin mixing meanings and words and they are worse off? anyway like you said [meant] teach them one at a time..but which would it be? if its your home tongue their English would have flaws, if its English their home language would be englified!!!!

arrhhhhh thats the hard part........................

SistaBB
24 Jun 2009 12:24

Hahahahaha....Awe I'm talking about the "airheads"
If I say Maddie & LM then I'll be an "airhead".....Lol

Positivity1
24 Jun 2009 12:25

Okay if you are teaching your kids their home language why does it bother you that other parents are not TEACHING THEIR KIDS THEIR HOME LANGUAGE???

Tynt!
24 Jun 2009 12:25

Hey dali, Gobusata shite masu.

Cody
24 Jun 2009 12:26

say what Awe?? LMAO! i hurrrrred (heard) you though! tl tl tl

dali
24 Jun 2009 12:26

not bad @ all cody, not bad! but pls allow me to ROTFLTIP

awelani
24 Jun 2009 12:27

okay sistaBB, just wanted to be clear,lol



realist
24 Jun 2009 12:28

Okay if you are teaching your kids their home language why does it bother you that other parents are not TEACHING THEIR KIDS THEIR HOME LANGUAGE???
My thoughts exactly.

zaa
24 Jun 2009 12:28

I don't know if it happens with u guys but everytime i get pissed or someone argues with me, i just gooi my Pedi...don't care if u White,Afrikaaner or Japanese ke go hlaba ka Sepedi....i just lurve it!

LM
24 Jun 2009 12:29

coz clearly if you do not know English, you are not educated????? What do you mean by not knowing english??basic writing/reading/speaking it or being fluent (writing/reading/speaking) or even twanging when at it?

I'm a Xhosa who speaks my vernac fluently and i went to rural schools but i dont let that stand in my way of speaking English with confidence - cos that's really what it comes to. When you're not confident while speaking the Queen's language you wont raise issues/points that you would have if you spoke in your home language. So we must stop making excuses for ourselves saying we went to kasi schools and all that. we watch tv and most programmes are in English, our textbooks were in English, most magazines that we buy are in English,most newspapers ...i could go on and on. We just need to start reading - doesnt have to be a thick book -even a daily newspaper - it will boost your confidence and English speaking ability: Good for you Zolx!!!! I don't think the article is about the points you hv raised though. I think it is about being rediculed and maybe sidelined when your english is not up to scratch!! Yes a person can boost their confidence in this language by reading and listening but it is not a crime when here n there a word spelt incorrectly or pronunciation is out. Only blacks (mostly) make an issue out of this kind of situations!!!!

felfel
24 Jun 2009 12:29

I am so proud of a blogger named Mathata, her english is not that good, but hey, what do you know ,she is living in Canada and making moola! while some people who claim to know English are still broke. 

Cody I remember Mathata explaining last year as to why her replies are so baldy written ( poor gramma & spelling errors), she said that  its because she was blogging at home with a crying child on her lap and thus couldn't concetrate and type well, i dont know if she's still at home with her crying child on her lap now na.

Ms. Jay
24 Jun 2009 12:30

Then we will CONCLUDE by saying that I have a conditioned called “mental retardation”  - no you made that conclusion Dash not me,

Cody
24 Jun 2009 12:30

LOL Dash!  hai suka Dash o snob wena! and you are exaggerating dear, i am sure you DID NOT sweat from trying to figure out what was written. if you really did.....maybe you should get your blood pressure checked. Give the girl a break. The important thing is that you now know what the topic is about right? let the sleeping dawgs sleep.

Tynt!
24 Jun 2009 12:34

Yes, basic writing/reading/speaking that we learn from SCHOOL...

LM
24 Jun 2009 12:35

which people SistaBB, the 'airheads" or maddie and LM? hi hi hi hi

Hahahahaha....Awe I'm talking about the "airheads"
If I say Maddie & LM then I'll be an "airhead".....Lol 

haaai maan Awe and SistaB....You nearly raised my temperature up a notch or two...i'm reading comments from bottom to top, but I get it now:)

Cody
24 Jun 2009 12:37

LMAO Felfel! kwa kwa kwa kwa!!! ihi ihi ihi! please dont remind me! oh, the child with the red dress like uyanda!

wena Dali dont laugh, rather teach me. but i have to warn you, i can be a very thick!

Dash
24 Jun 2009 12:37

On the topic.. I am proud to say that I have a 4 year old boy who is fluent in Sepedi like he was born in Limpopo. He only started learning English in school this year and he’s coming alright. This other day he was crying saying “Mommy I have maadie” I was so confused until I saw a small prick were there was little blood. I said to him “Let mama stop that maadie”

Green.arrow
24 Jun 2009 12:38

i just gooi my Pedi...don't care if u White,Afrikaaner or Japanese ke go hlaba ka Sepedi........lol......eita da zaa...ke a go kwishisha mfe2....go omanyiwa ka sepedi ga go monate......

O kare ke ya gokwa.."o seke wa nyaka go ntshishimisha"...yessus...

And i must say...i often saw a lil bit of sadness on Mandoza's face when aked about his english.......our society is saddening!

LM
24 Jun 2009 12:40

let the sleeping dawgs sleep lie. see, re thomile!!

Ms. Jay
24 Jun 2009 12:41

Yes a person can boost their confidence in this language by reading and listening but it is not a crime when here n there a word spelt incorrectly or pronunciation is out.Only blacks (mostly) make an issue out of this kind of situations!!!!

I beg to differ LM, all non English speaking people have this problem, I noticed when I was in Europe that people whose mother tongue was not English also ridiculed each other when they heard a fellow-mate try to communicate in English, and if they messed up they would be teased so badly..and they were white not black by the way. Its not a black thing but a people thing. In actual fact this issue of "ridicule" is not limited to English only; for example,  if I try to speak Dali's home tongue and get it wrong somewhere she would ROTFLHBAO at me like what she just did to Cody........its just the way the human mind operates......

zolx
24 Jun 2009 12:44

don't think the article is about the points you hv raised though - what i was trying to point out with my views LM was that we dont have to apologise for not knowing English cos kakade if its not your 1st language you will learn new words everyday but encouraging peeps at the same time to read to increase their vocab. Khona am i the only one with a response that's not on point?

I have a 3 year old who's talking kakhle ngesintu but shame once someone asks her in English how she is she repeats that. And now that she knows her home language i am thinking of sending her to a creche where she'll learn English but ke endlini we'll still rock isXhosa.

Positivity1
24 Jun 2009 12:44

i just gooi my Pedi...don't care if u White,Afrikaaner or Japanese ke go hlaba ka Sepedi........Oh brother I know what you mean!

 “Mommy I have maadie” >>> haaahahaha ... I can just imagine he's little cute face saying that... we all start somewhere neh.

awelani
24 Jun 2009 12:48

sorry LM,,

Strolicious
24 Jun 2009 12:50

ayi niyakhuluma kumabonakede wase mzansi.....he eh eh ....can any 1 beat da....lol @ LM

Cody
24 Jun 2009 12:54

let the sleeping dawgs sleep lie. see, re thomile!! 

LMAO! whether they lie or sleep, 6 no 9 kuyafana nje! joking thanks LM!

Strolicious
24 Jun 2009 12:54

i was still typying when i pressed enter by mistake....LM u finished me wth dis line.......nna I just don't care whether my bird sounds like bed oksalayo you know exactly what I'm on about

Ms. Jay
24 Jun 2009 12:55

LM u finished me wth dis line.......nna I just don't care whether my bird sounds like bed oksalayo you know exactly what I'm on about

hahahahahahahahah - I missed that!

Savanah Dry
24 Jun 2009 12:55

I do not see anything wrong with English its like the Universal language of the world if you travell then communication will not be a problem imagine if people only spoke their home languages then how would we conduct Buss.

But at the same time it doesnt mean we have to forget our home languages. Its just some people get too engified and think speaking it Fluently is being Educated its not.

On TVSA yes i would prefer people use English as not all of us are South African and we do watch South African Programs so it gets hard to get involved in certain articles as there will be too much Vernac being used, And yes thx to Tvsa am begining to catch some words but not sure which language..Lol..

SistaBB
24 Jun 2009 12:56

In actual fact this issue of "ridicule" is not limited to English only
Ms. Jay
that is true , I just remember how during the Breakfast With Thomas era, Refilwe or BBK would laugh at Thomas when he was speaking Sotho, because he was so helpless, but he was trying shame. Everytime I hear Lira's song I just remember him coz it took him some time to pronounce "wa mpaleya" correctly & you could hear everybody laughing in the studio.  
However, with thomas I think it was more of a fun thing than being a redicule

dali
24 Jun 2009 12:56

LOL sori Cody i ddnt mean to laf

Ms. Jay
24 Jun 2009 12:59

But at the same time it doesnt mean we have to forget our home languages. Its just some people get too engified and think speaking it Fluently is being Educated its not.

true Savanah -

Positivity1
24 Jun 2009 13:02

@ Savanah Dry I'm also learning new words today ..."engified"

cleve
24 Jun 2009 13:06

“Mommy I have maadie” >>> 

Ooh you should hear my baby's english accent. It's so cute. The pronociation is so funny. It's so rare these days that you find kids with funny english accents coz everyone is twanging now. Ive taken a video of his moments and will show it to him when he starts twaging on me.

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 13:19

He Yazi the worst thing abt this language u find that there's some poeple who turn to roll when they speaking as if they speaking english.... like if the person is saying " Ayipho nzalo" instead of "Ayibo njalo' especial galz I don't know what is wrong with them  en they ven think bawo high class by speaking english . 

Best-Achiever
24 Jun 2009 13:25

- Guyz I would like each of us tell us how he/she feels about this language?
English is a medium of communication I have grown to accept that. It help us to communicate with all sort of people from different kinds of places. If I go to any other place with majority of non Zulu speaking people I speak in English, because I cant expect those people to know Zulu if I don’t know their language, the least I can expect from them is to understand English not my Zulu

- How do you feel about someone who doesn't speak English?
It depends where we are, what made us to be there, I can’t expect elders in rural areas to speak English because most people there didn’t even go to school. Well it does embarrass me to see someone embarrassing themselves in English with someone they could have used another language to communicate with. JP I know you are Zulu speaking person and im also Zulu speaking person, lets take it we both know that and you come to me saying nywe nywe nywe and English and you break it in the process, it is either I’ll be embarrassed on your behalf or I’ll have a good laugh in my closets, I mean why do you even think of talking to me in English if we can talk in Zulu and we both fluent in it.

- How do feel about employer requiring you to speak English when you find it to speak but u can able to do the job so just because you can’t speak English so you won’t get the job …
JP if I applied in English, how can I expect that the employer will expect me to speak in Zulu, when it is me who first applied in English? I don’t expect my employer or colleagues to talk to me in Zulu if they are not Zulu, if I can’t communicate using their languages, I don’t expect them either to bite their tongue trying to communicate with me in Zulu, so English is the way to go.

ms.tebby
24 Jun 2009 13:27

JP is this the reason why you never replied to my mail today, you were here,lol
lemme read

monchooza
24 Jun 2009 13:29

i dont love/like english its one language i feel i am forced to speak...ngoba had it not been the forced language kimi...i would not speak the damn language... i can speak my isizulu or any other african language in Pride mara english...never!!! which is why you will never hear me speak perfect english(even though i know i can i choose not to)

Sobza
24 Jun 2009 13:34

Ndatsho ndakhumbula uVuyani Bhungu(the boxer)...they once asked him what he would do for his community njengokuba wayethe waphumelela kwi boxing and Vuyani said "I will braai them all".....uyakusele uzicingela ke ukuba wayefuna ukuthini.

felfel
24 Jun 2009 13:38

OMG!!!!!!!!!! u killed me Sobza, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Heartsbreaker
24 Jun 2009 13:38

Guyz I would like each of us tell us how he/she feels about this language? 

Ashamed

How do you feel about someone who doesn't speak English? 

Sorry and ashamed

How do feel about employer requiring you to speak English when you find it to speak but u can able to do the job so just because you can’t speak English so you won’t get the job … 

The employer is selfish...........(udayisa fish)

maud
24 Jun 2009 13:40

Mommy i have maddie- wait until  he start saying words like flabbagasted-, contradictor , i hope i have spelled  it right, i know spelling  its my weak point, dont blame me, blame the  computer ,i always use the spell check.


maud
24 Jun 2009 13:42

hai Sobza,whats wrong when Vuyani decided to braai us all LOl- englishhh itlakgotabula mfana.

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 13:43

How do feel about employer requiring you to speak English when you find it to speak but u can able to do the job so just because you can’t speak English so you won’t get the job …
JP if I applied in English, how can I expect that the employer will expect me to speak in Zulu, when it is me who first applied in English? I don’t expect my employer or colleagues to talk to me in Zulu if they are not Zulu, if I can’t communicate using their languages, I don’t expect them either to bite their tongue trying to communicate with me in Zulu, so English is the way to 
go................................

But Best-Achiever how do u see it when u being interviewd by Zulu employer en he/she jst make thingz hard for by interviewing in English don't you think that person is being selfish , she/he doesn't want to give u the job opportunities...........y vele angakubuzi ngesiZulu coz u are  the only people who is in dat interviewing room .............I thnk nathi nje soetimes sibuye sizenze the better ppl out of nothing.

Katlegom
24 Jun 2009 13:45

my brother's 4 year old son speaks funny English. he mix English and SeTswana/IsiZulu/SePedi in one sentence
(rangwane Katle are you drinking tshwala, i want a nyama)

Dash
24 Jun 2009 13:46

@maud His favourite word now is - difficult - He would come panting after running and say "Yo mommy it's difficult". I'm not sure if he really finds running difficult or wanted to say it's tiring. I wish it was not important for him to know English because in Sepedi he was just going to say "mama go kitima go a lapisa maan"

Sobza
24 Jun 2009 13:47

Mna shem andikho perfect kwi English...I did English as da Second Language esikolweni....so ndisophula ndisiqwabaze ndisiyakhona ukuba uyandiqondastanda ukuba ndifuna ukuthini then its fine with me. 

I was watching Sunrise this morning and Graham was interviewing Scara Ngobese....and he did not answer the questions posed to him. 

Graham: What tactics should the USA use in the game against Spain.
Scara: Like...if I was the coach of USA, I would like uhh tell my team to go out there and enjoy themselves.

And then he was asked about Teko Modise and Scara said "Teko has been like uuh put of lot of under pressure"

You really cannot go overseas and expect ukuthi bakuve uthethana nesiXhosa(unless uzakuza nomntu ozakuguqulela) atleast xa usazi i English you will be able to communicate.

GML
24 Jun 2009 13:48

I think it's great that JP wants to learn English.

Surely the article is not as well written but one can decipher what is written there. Pretending to not understand is just mean and shows a lack of character. I say this because if one is able to recognise that the article is about English surely one has the brains to sort of make out what the article says.

Microsoft does have a spell checker, even so it uses American English and not British English which means a word may still be spelled incorrectly because of this. Would we still criticize in that case?
There will not be a point for all of  us to respond in our languages bacause we will not be able to communicate properly. i can communicate in Zulu but to make sure that all Soth's, venda. Tswana's etc understand I use English.

JP I understand where you are coming but we should also remember that not all families practice these traditional stuff because of religious purposes. This does not mean that they are ignorant or anything like that. They just dont practice them

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 13:51

my brother's 4 year old son speaks funny English. he mix English and SeTswana/IsiZulu/SePedi in one sentence
(rangwane Katle are you drinking tshwala, i want a nyama)
LOLKatlegom.....atleast he hasn't forgot his african language en m glad he can also speak Zulu.

BigMama
24 Jun 2009 13:52

Great article JP,

Well l don't know English that much but l can read, write and understand it. l love the English language as much as l love my African Language. English makes communication easier, especial if we are mixed races and speak different languages. l am proud to say l love English because l can communicate with my friend in Seattle, Japan, China, Nigeria, khenya and most of all l can communicate with my clients and not forgeting miss. tebby and Dali.

l think, us people chose to abuse the language but, there is nothing wrong with the language itself. We chose to forget our african languages and use English.

cleve
24 Jun 2009 13:53

kwa kwa kwa @Sobza

GML
24 Jun 2009 13:54


But Best-Achiever how do u see it when u being interviewd by Zulu employer en he/she jst make thingz hard for by interviewing in English don't you think that person is being selfish , she/he doesn't want to give u the job opportunities...........y vele angakubuzi ngesiZulu coz u are the only people who is in dat interviewing room .............I thnk nathi nje soetimes sibuye sizenze the better ppl out of nothing.

WE have to communicate with all sorts of people at work, therefore the medium of communication should be the same across the board. You will be required to speak to people who do not understand your language, if you cannot communicate with them then how will you do your job? If the employer makes things hard for you during an interview imagine when you have a client from the US for instance, how hard will that be then?

Dash
24 Jun 2009 13:54

Hey GML *waving like a lunie* welcome



to the topic.

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 13:59


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm   okw

BigMama
24 Jun 2009 13:59

But Best-Achiever how do u see it when u being interviewd by Zulu employer en he/she jst make thingz hard for by interviewing in English don't you think that person is being selfish , she/he doesn't want to give u the job opportunities...........y vele angakubuzi ngesiZulu coz u are the only people who is in dat interviewing room .............I thnk nathi nje soetimes sibuye sizenze the better ppl out of nothing.

That's an obvious thing people, all interviews are done in English except if it is stated that it will done in your mother language. Why make English a monster, the person isn't closing opportunities for anyone, you just have to practise the Language.

awelani
24 Jun 2009 13:59

LOL sobza

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 14:04

I know that Bigmama that is why i said Guys we all know that English is the language which the key for everything coz each and everything of today is enlgish i mean like our current life is english especially u won’t get a good job if u don’t know how to speak it. So i don't have a problem with it Bigmama besengizikhalela nje ngamafavour ukuthi kanti ayaphi kithina bantu or is it because if u will do me a favour i must pay so i wil get in ............No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

realist
24 Jun 2009 14:05

We chose to forget our african languages and use English.
Circumstances forced us to speak English. Imagine someone not fluent in any African language in RSA is made to present a show, be it on TV or radio station; would you watch or stay tuned everyday?

LM
24 Jun 2009 14:09

Khona am i the only one with a response that's not on point? No Zolx, eish you see this english thing now...I wasn't exactly disputing what you said fellow blocker but merely meaning gore generally we don't have a problem with your scenario but with the ridiculing and stuff like that....

ms.tebby
24 Jun 2009 14:09

Well l am glad  l can read, write and understand English. l love the English language as much as l love my African Language. English makes communication easier, especial if we are mixed races and speak different languages.>>>>i must say i get disappointed when people speak it with a twang but cant utter a single word of their mother tongue, my  8 year old nephew always gets me to scratch my head everytime he speaks coz he cant speak proper Setswana, u would think he grew up in UK, & he is very proud of himselfmncim!

ms.tebby
24 Jun 2009 14:10

Well l am glad  l can read, write and understand English. l love the English language as much as l love my African Language. English makes communication easier, especial if we are mixed races and speak different languages.>>>>i must say i get disappointed when people speak it with a twang but cant utter a single word of their mother tongue, my  8 year old nephew always gets me to scratch my head everytime he speaks coz he cant speak proper Setswana, u would think he grew up in UK, & he is very proud of himself mncim!

BigMama
24 Jun 2009 14:13

Reply from: realist 6/24/2009 8:05:06 PM


We chose to forget our african languages and use English.
Circumstances forced us to speak English. Imagine someone not fluent in any African language in RSA is made to present a show, be it on TV or radio station; would you watch or stay tuned everyday

l meant on those who chose to speak it always and don't know their african languages, l know that the circumstances force us to speak English.

felfel
24 Jun 2009 14:16

I love English.

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 14:21

@miss.tebby plz note that when i speak english with u it's not beacuse i think m better but m trying us to have a gud communication coz siyakuconfuser isiZulu mngani wami.

En miss.tebby if me & Bigmama speak Zulu it's not becuase we shwa shwa shwa shwa shwa  too much my friend but we proud of our mother tongue ......LoL! Got ya my frnd!

Best-Achiever
24 Jun 2009 14:25

But Best-Achiever how do u see it when u being interviewd by Zulu employer en he/she jst make thingz hard for by interviewing in English don't you think that person is being selfish , she/he doesn't want to give u the job opportunities...........y vele angakubuzi ngesiZulu coz u are the only people who is in dat interviewing room .............I thnk nathi nje soetimes sibuye sizenze the better ppl out of nothing.

If the post was advertised in Zulu maybe i can think they will interview me in Zulu but JP mina if i were to be given a chance to be interviewed in my language of choice, i wont choose Zulu because im certain i'd fail that interview, i will not even undertsand some of the things, let alone to explain things that i'd like to explain in Zulu .... my line of work isnt Zulu friendly ... i meant i dont even know what keyboard is in Zulu and i dont wanna even Think about database... so i'll be in for a big failure ...

BigMama
24 Jun 2009 14:26

l love JP, she never abandons her articles, she makes sure they sale. Keep the spirit up gal.

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 14:36

LOL @Bigmama ngizokushaya wena

zolx
24 Jun 2009 14:40


Khona am i the only one with a response that's not on point? No Zolx, eish you see this english thing now...I wasn't exactly disputing what you said fellow blocker but merely meaning gore generally we don't have a problem with your scenario but with the ridiculing and stuff like that.... OK LM

going back to what a fellow blogger said about letters in a wor being mixed but keeping the first and last letters the same - you're able to read that word...eg prsonael but you wouldnt be able to do that in your home language. THe other thing i find is that it takes me longer to read isiXhosa than English kufana nobhala ngesXhosa without using igama elingelolesXhosa. Cos mos naxa sithetha we mix and match.

LM
24 Jun 2009 14:41

I just remember how during the Breakfast With Thomas era, Refilwe or BBK would laugh at Thomas when he was speaking Sotho, because he was so helpless, but he was trying shame......I'm not elevating english or trying to be otherwise but guys you know very well these guys' laugh at Thomas for not being able to speak Sotho does/will not have the same effect/impact if they were laughing at him for not being fluent in english and ishh like that......I hope you get the basic meaning of what em saying  and not try to decipher (thanks TVSA) the hidden message"

I will keep quiet and be upset (off course) when you laugh at me for saying class instead of glass but I won't laugh at you when you say prostpone in the next sentence you say once you stop laughing at me....

tracy
24 Jun 2009 14:42

Circumstances forced us to speak English. Imagine someone not fluent in any African language in RSA is made to present a show, be it on TV or radio station; would you watch or stay tuned everyday?

I couldnt have said it better   

faraimagic
24 Jun 2009 14:47

wat  English?................................have you heard american English?LOL 

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 14:52

have you heard american English......wat about it  faraimagic.

ms.tebby
24 Jun 2009 14:58

JP & Bigmama you are shwashwating me! 

Lol, American English can be funny at times,hey!

faraimagic
24 Jun 2009 14:59

The Black one?...its so broken that they dont notice anymore!....eg...wat is you -thinking?
-Your shoes is small!
-If wat you Niggaz is saying is true we bout to smack you down dog!

mathata
24 Jun 2009 14:59

i think last time i told ppl that im graduate when coming to bad speliing even today Im still saying that n im proud.

i  dont think English makes a person But you can fit  all over when you speak it,

For me ppl must follow what is good for them,when coming to books im lazzy,i realise at the young age that is a no LINE for me.BUt without education you are nothing,so if you are not  good in books try something that it will work for you,n i did,I MEAN I DID.

i travel world wide with rotten accent,i followed what is good for me,i created some jobs,im making money,i have good ideas when coming to business,that one you cant cut air with knife.

i didnt come on TVSA to impress anyone,i like to share ideas in real life,yes my child used to be around,that was not  n excuse for being graduate speller.i am a BAD SPELLER.

worst part i compromise a lot,to be blogging,I doit for me ,no one pushed me,

But the hard thing is to run business with phone n blog same time.

All i can say to anyone,you know what you are good at,im happy they way Iam.if you want me to fit into your shoes LETS talk some business.

GUYS do you know some of high commissioners they cant even write
.

so aslong  i can  talk n make money life goes on.

ppl who have good qualification they work for me in South africa n i respect them,does it make sense?

the main thing i dont carry bad spelling in my bag,i carry money that i work hard for

i want to tell ppl ,go to the easy road that you know.

maud
24 Jun 2009 15:01

definately i wont have to tune in  that show ,because that person will never be hired for tha post.

its funny when a well known person pronounce the word eg, for that matter, its okay, but if its Maud there will be a correction, why ? sizixakekisa kangaka, what i know there is no master of pronounsation. khuluma noba yini ofuna ukuyitsho
mabangakuzwanga indaba yabo leyo. does it matter?

@Dash- maybe he is saying its difficult to speak this english, 

faraimagic
24 Jun 2009 15:03

mina I dont have a problem wit people's english...coz im very open minded!...as long as i understand wat the other person is trying to say!...its not a crime to speak broken english...or to write a wrong spelling....who cares!...some of us have real life problems than to worry about a wrong spelling or broken english!

maud
24 Jun 2009 15:07

@mathata- not to be funny or what, you are the first person i have ever heard saying he has money, not even Patrice Matsipe admits to that.

Ms. Jay
24 Jun 2009 15:08

some of us have real life problems than to worry about a wrong spelling or broken english!

phew - well said Fariri.......

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 15:09

If wat you Niggaz is saying is true we bout to smack you down dog! ....................
faraimagic i really like pronounce this ................it sound really doog to me i know they have poor english but i like the way they pronounce words like Danielle from American Next Top Model .............Oh! en 50Cent the guy talks nicely.

mathata
24 Jun 2009 15:15

@farai....dont say ,tomorrow is a pay day,you must pay ppl  who been ther for you.

the next hannah mantana want you to worry about spelling??

time is money,the are ppl who get paid to write(cassandra)

i have much im my shoulders to worry about.

maud
24 Jun 2009 15:18

Fundisani izingane bakithi!!!!

Kids Today!!! They don't know isiZulu anymore...

How this child failed isiZulu test.

Complete the following:


Q7: Kulele kunye ?.....Ngabe kubili
A7: Bekuzo have i sex

Q1: Ingane engakhali ??
A1: Seyi clever

Q2: Iso liwela??
A2: Phansi

Q3: Akwehlanga??
A4: Lunga nyukanga

Q4: Isalakutshelwa?..
A5: Sizozizwa


Q6: Induku enhle?..
A6: Ishaya kabuhlungu

Q8: Ikati lilele?
A8: Phansi kwetafula


Section 2

Animal association


Q4: Umntwana wenkukhu ubizwa?..
A4: I KFC encane

Q3: Umntwana wenja ubizwa?..
A3: U bobby

Q1: Umntwana wengulube ubizwa??
A1: Is'dudla es'ncane es'ngaz'thandi

Q2: Umntwana wenkomo ubizwa?..
A2: Inkonjane


Now a classic


Q1: Inyathi
A1: Ishiywa yi-Quantum

cleve
24 Jun 2009 15:19

Thatha Mathath!!!!!!!!!!

LM
24 Jun 2009 15:20

the main thing i dont carry bad spelling in my bag,i carry money that i work hard for : Mathata you are hilarious....o a mpolaya mosadi!!!!

all over : nako e nngwe le ye nngwe ge ke bona o ngwadile all over o nkgopotsa  that comment you made ages ago about mar....t* being all over instead of finding the real thing...I still CTFU when I think about it....

@mathata- not to be funny or what, you are the first person i have ever heard saying he has money, not even Patrice Matsipe admits to that. Mathata doesn't give a ishhh Maud...hehehehe!

Cody
24 Jun 2009 15:20

that one you cant cut air with knife.

LMAO!! Tjhesa Thata's!!!

lady gaga
24 Jun 2009 15:20

LOL!!!@ maud.........

mathata
24 Jun 2009 15:24

@maud,what im trying to say... i dont brag.

i want to tell someone who has educational  disability like myself that life has more to offer.

if you dont have pencil show them that you have PEN,thats the way life is.

is not about money ,is what im good at.

the only thing that ppl knows  about me,is how bad i spell,thats why i endup telling them who iam,not to show off ,to motivate someone

Cody
24 Jun 2009 15:26

if you dont have pencil show them that you have PEN,thats the way life is. 

that is the spirit Mathata!!!

GML
24 Jun 2009 15:27

LOL @ Maud

cleve
24 Jun 2009 15:28

Section 2

Animal association


Q4: Umntwana wenkukhu ubizwa?..
A4: I KFC encane

Q3: Umntwana wenja ubizwa?..
A3: U bobby

Q1: Umntwana wengulube ubizwa??
A1: Is'dudla es'ncane es'ngaz'thandi

Q2: Umntwana wenkomo ubizwa?..
A2: Inkonjane
 


KWA KWA KWA KWA KWA KWA !!!!!!!! I am so gaffawing (sP) right now, people at work are asking me what's wrong.

mathata
24 Jun 2009 15:31

@LM,you talk about big balls... they makes me sick...bcs you cant find the real thing.

you need to be careful,once he sit down,act like you look for something,once you see a big handbag ....you must know  d trouble comes... ,

see you later my friend i have stomach cramps(time is money)i cant handle that

@Lm ga o lebale tjo.ke  masepa fela

LM
24 Jun 2009 15:34

if you dont have pencil show them that you have PEN,thats the way life is. I like, I like....Mathata where do you get this lines mara wena, phela o creative jong....

Cody
24 Jun 2009 15:35

you need to be careful,once he sit down,act like you look for something,once you see a big handbag ....you must know d trouble comes... , 

Bathong??? handbag nogal?

LM
24 Jun 2009 15:37

see you later my friend i have stomach cramps(time is money)i cant handle that ..O fole mogwera..cya..

faraimagic
24 Jun 2009 15:37

My point is ....i wont worry if people tell me that my English is bad! maar i will get really worried if they say that my Shona,Zulu,Tswana or sotho is Bad.....

Ms. Jay
24 Jun 2009 15:38

tltltltltltltltlllttllt cleve - my hubby is wondering what I am cackling @.........

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 15:38

TJO MATHATA

TheLady
24 Jun 2009 15:38

"the main thing i dont carry bad spelling in my bag,i carry money that i work hard for" hehehe nice.

awelani
24 Jun 2009 15:39

educational disability .....have never heard this b4,, DMath,, hayi no mphedza musidzana tjoo

mathata
24 Jun 2009 15:39

samma,life will teach you a lot.i seen i lot in life,i mean marago a tshwene.

i dont know thats the way iam.

Strolicious
24 Jun 2009 15:40

Maud eish wa pulaya .....ROTFMBSAO

Q7: Kulele kunye ?.....Ngabe kubili
A7: Bekuzo have i sex

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 15:41

Mina guyz my manager uthi m busy thinking about my boyfrnd that is why m laughing en he's askin if mic him ............................there he jst made me more LOLing

awelani
24 Jun 2009 15:42

LMBAO @ marago a tshwene,, CTFU

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 15:43

Now a classic

Q1: Inyathi
A1: Ishiywa yi-Quantum
maud plz stop this sana i can't stop  laughing at this tjo!

Strolicious
24 Jun 2009 15:45

Im zulu trying to write sotho dat was meant to be wa mpolaya

mathata
24 Jun 2009 15:48

@Awe,o ntia byane naaa,te tjebe o no di tatja moya ka mokgoo,a ke kweeee naaa.(credo mutwa accent)

dont do me like that explain

awelani
24 Jun 2009 15:50

mathata??  what did u just say??

zaa
24 Jun 2009 15:52

<<<O kare ke ya gokwa.."o seke wa nyaka go ntshishimisha"...yessus...>>> LOL @ GA, ya something along those lines... 

<<<<i just gooi my Pedi...don't care if u White,Afrikaaner or Japanese ke go hlaba ka Sepedi........Oh brother I know what you mean! >>> bathong Positivity1, what made u think im a "brother"?

Lela
24 Jun 2009 15:55

I think it's good to know how to speak english as it is the language of communication amoungst people of diferent languages. It becomes bad when we use it to make ourselves feel better or look down upon those who can't speak it well. I'm one of those that went to makhaya schools until grade 9 then I went to a multi racial school,but I will not lie to you and say I learnt english emulti no I learnt it emakhaya and that is why they took me in that multi cz I could speak english otherwise they wouldn't have. Therefore I credit my school for teaching me english in xhosa nogal cz it helped me not to make these careless mistakes like saying I didn't saw. My mistress would tell us,"xa usebenzise udid iverb ithatha ipresent tense,u is uhamaba no ing," in her best xhosa accent. What I'm saying is we must be willing to learn,people must not get offended like they would xa uCariri ebacorrecta. Also we should teach our kids their mother toungue even though they speak english at school.

mathata
24 Jun 2009 15:56

@awe,hai u mpedza misidzana,what does it mean

o no tatja ditjebe tjaka ka  moya mokgoo.o ntia bjyane naa

zolx
24 Jun 2009 15:56

mathata - if you dont mind me asking what bisness are you in. I'm also a smallanyana business working lady and would do anything to increase my purse argh sorry handbag. and you say you've employed ppl - what do you do friend?

sponono
24 Jun 2009 15:58

watched the show, and its was so on point-well researched  and SAD I think I want to do somethign about the whole lack of venec in some kids learning....still thinking of Ideas (first I'll stop blogging in english...LOL

anyhoo...the MANDOZa part...yeah he's OK with people mocking him, but he looked sad while saying that..and he STILL TRIED to say it in ENGLISH..hi hi hi MARA  WHY....as for lawa-mapapisi wakhe...MR Nkalakata..you MUST DO SUMTHING with those..they dont look good...amapapisis could mean a lot of things in terms of your health and hygiene...so please MANDOZA's WIFE spruce your man up .....LOL...even when i saw him at the Workshop DBN  wayenamapapisi and this was lat year...

mathata
24 Jun 2009 15:59

@zaa.LOL

awelani
24 Jun 2009 16:02

ohh dat, I sed u are finishing me with <<educational disability>>

lady gaga
24 Jun 2009 16:03

Batho ba swanetje go no kweshisha gore sekgoa sebohlokwa bophelong, ke laka leo!!!!!!!!!!!!

maud
24 Jun 2009 16:07

@Mathatha- i was not saying you were braging shlobo, its nice to know that there are people out there , who money is not a problem to them the problem its how to use it lol -joking nothing personal, 

LM
24 Jun 2009 16:09

samma,life will teach you a lot.i seen i lot in life,i mean marago a tshwene. You've just finished me, ROTFLMBCBAO......

mathata
24 Jun 2009 16:09

Zolx ,send me a p msg,i dont mind to share.

awelani
24 Jun 2009 16:12

i mean marago a tshwene, Mathata, do u mean literally?? still cant lafing @b this, LMAO

maud
24 Jun 2009 16:13

so what do you say to some of us who has educational ability - whats the opposite of disability kanene, but still cant speak english.

Katlegom
24 Jun 2009 16:18

The other day Mandoza confessed to Dineo on yfm that he once ordered 'double Jack on rocks without ice' found it funny, tl tl tl tl!

LM
24 Jun 2009 16:24

Mathata mogwera,, nna ke tsoma moshomo wa nakwana (part time), e kaba mafelelo a beke goba boshigo ge ke tshaisha mo moshomong. Ke tla go ngwalela molaetsa wa sephiri/phoraebete:)

What I'm saying is we must be willing to learn,people must not get offended like they would xa uCariri ebacorrecta: it depends on how you are corrected.
amoungst:
amongst. no offence , LOL!

Mathata, do u mean literally?? Awe, figuratively!!! O nkgome or o nkwatishe fela wena, o tla bona marao a tshwene!!!

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 16:24

Guyz five more replies so it wud be 200 replies for my articles...............LOL! jst kiddin en I wanna thank you guyz for your support especially that there was no one who was fighting to one another............Thank you !thank you

mathata
24 Jun 2009 16:26

@awe....i mean i seen deep problems,in life you will in be  bad situatian,you will experienced bad things

is like you will see S**.

not the real marago a tshwene,the real one to get near them you will see the real real real S*

felfel
24 Jun 2009 16:27

Thats sad katlegom, lol

maud
24 Jun 2009 16:29

JP- where there is Maud there is no fight my darling ,i come with peace.

JadaPinkett
24 Jun 2009 16:30

anyhoo...the MANDOZa part...yeah he's OK with people mocking him, but he looked sad while saying that..and he STILL TRIED to say it in ENGLISH..hi hi hi MARA WHY....................tjo! guyz i also laughed at Mandoza yesterday when he was trying to speak english he's still struggling but he'll be fine i can see there's some progression to him

mathata
24 Jun 2009 16:31

@LM.nna ke tsoma moshomo wa nakwana.

im picturing you saying that ka sepedi kwa kwa kwaaaaaa hai LOL

myname
24 Jun 2009 16:41

I will read this tomorrow, im exhausted.

Anyway, Molweni, Sanibonani, Good afternoon, Gooie dag, Ndimasiyari, Dumelang, 

I hope everyone is ok. Bye bye, have a good evening.

LM
24 Jun 2009 16:42

im picturing you saying that ka sepedi kwa kwa kwaaaaaa hai LOL...Don't laugh at your elders child, LOL!!!

where there is Maud there is no fight my darling ,i come with peace. I've seen that ko Gen teasers Maud, you are one patient lady.  

I was having fun until I saw a comment where I was accused of being a time waster, not logical, emotional and all...LMAO, nkosi'onofefe!!!

Bye lovely people, sien julle more!  where is Myname today bakithi?

Lela
24 Jun 2009 16:51

amoungst: amongst. no offence tl tl tl,funny how  thought there was something wrong but didn't know what,thanks wethu. Uyabona ke now i know imagine if that was on my cv or article.

sponono
25 Jun 2009 10:44

Mandoza "can i have a double jack on da rocks...no ice pleaze."..
LOL Kwa kwa kwa kwa ..eish didnt c this one...

JadaPinkett
25 Jun 2009 11:03

Abantu mst stop criticising uMandoza coz no one is perfect in this Language

myname
25 Jun 2009 13:16

- How do you feel about someone who doesn't speak English? Bye lovely people, sien julle more! where is Myname today bakithi?
Im here doll.

I will comment even if im late.
Guyz I would like each of us tell us how he/she feels about this language?
Honestly i feel ashamed of myself most of times. It kills my self esteem knowing that i know how to say whatever i want to say in my own language which is Xhosa. But as Realist said, circumstances forced us to speak this langauge. You all know i love to talk but sometimes i keep quiet because im embarrassed of my broken English. I am aware that I can’t express the way i would if i was speaking my mother tongue. Im not saying im the greatest with my Xhosa but i know how to read, write & speak.

-How do you feel about someone who doesn't speak English? 
I always speak Zulu or mix masala. And if she/he is not black then i will b on "mute" baby. Or try doing sign language if he/she doesnt understand me.

How do feel about employer requiring you to speak English when you find it to speak but u can able to to do the job so just because you can’t speak English so you won’t get the job 
Hai sana aketse, maar i think it is important to every1 to know how to speak, write & read English. You can go far.

Dankie JP



JadaPinkett
30 Jun 2009 08:32

Thnx myname

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