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The Dark knight - a review

Written by tha - bang from the blog blah blah on 31 Jul 2008
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This Batman movie is not called The Dark knight for nothing;demented clown, conflicted batman, crooked officials, plenty of dark humour, strong themes a' plenty. At 2hours 30 minutes the film is both epic in the story it tells. The characters it portrays and most importantly its themes. The duration can be a bit of stretch but its a worthwhile stretch cause the running time gives ample opportunity for the characters to develop and grow, for the plot to twist and turn and for the themes to get more and more pressing as the clocks ticks towards the final showdown. 

joker in action

The themes in the movie range from how do we define a hero and a villan (basically good and evil). What is leadership (should we make idols of our leader and what makes a leader?).The dangers of idealisation and terrorism. Theres alot to unpack in the movie, depending on who you are,you'll get a different take on the themes presented in the film. The film toys with the idea that in our so called civilised world the concept of hero and vilan are just two shades of grey from each other. The hero is not that far frombeing a vilan and a villan can easily be a hero. That terroricis works by targeting at our fears, insecurities and selfishess.Therefore anyone can be an agent of terror given the right circumstances or the right stakes. Even the role of mass media as an agent of terror that is used to spread it, is also explored in the film. Which for me is a very apt themes in a post 9/11 world. At some level while watching the dark knight the old saying of "whorish times make whores of all of us" seem to be put to the test both metaphorically and pratically.

The film has shades of saw, v for vendetta and something that is uniquely batman, more like unique to the current franchise, that sees the film actually slightly maturing in how it comes across.
the joker
Take the Joker for example, he's character is both violent ,insane, very charming and deviously cunning. The film does not hold back on this, Heath Ledger's Joker is not the same funny prince of Jack Nicholsons "the batman" joker of 1980's. Heath's Joker is the sort of character that can pop up in kids nightmares (and some adults) but worst than done that he is the sort of villan that makes one question alot about one selves reality, morals and behaviour. He is a sort of bad guy that becomes a reflection on the so called good guys and society and poses alot of difficult questions. No one is in such a better position to question themselves like Bruce Wayne/Batman in this movie. 
batman 2
The Joker becomes Batman antithesis , that not only makes for good viewing but also challenges the concept of batman as an all time good guy and our own notions of heroism. How many comic books adaptation can say they've done that.
batman and alfred the butler
Two other lovely characters that are portrayed well in this film and carry the themes and another major part of the film/story are Aaron Erckhart's Harvey Dent/Two face and Gary Oldman's commisioner Gordon's character. The journey and eventual outcome at the end of the movie is set up so nicely that by the time the chips are down and things are going hay wire,one really can identify,understand and sympathise with their plight. But although Heath the Joker is fun to watch and almost steals the show with his black humour and antics the film still belongs to the batman,not only as a character but as a symbol. One truely comes out knowing who the dark knight is, what he stands for and the true burden of being a real hero. 
the bat bike
By the end of the film theres only  one question unanswered " where to from here Mr.Batman?". That question will stay with you for a couple of hours or a day or two after watching the movie.What will the guys do top this movie in the third film? How will producers top this film? How will the director cum writer Christopher Nolan build on the Dark knight? My my my,i dont see any easy answers.






21 Comments

tha - bang
31 Jul 2008 12:19

So anyone else whose seen the dark knight

Brown Shuga
31 Jul 2008 18:03

<<<But although Heath the Joker is fun to watch and almost steals the show with his black humour and antics the film still belongs to the batman,not only as a character but as a symbol>>> 
I enjoyed The Joker more than I enjoyed Bruce Wayne / Batman. What's up with the voice that changes when he's in that Batman suit anyway? 

Heath Ledger outdid himself in this movie. Is it really him? Oh my word, I have never loved a bad guy like I loved him. 
One thing I took away from the movie was when The Joker said "If you're good at something, never do it for free." 

I enjoyed it very much and even though all the movie "analysts" like you Tha-bang, say that Christian Bale was a better actor than Heath Ledger, I think Heath should get the nomination for this one. Christian is supposedly the star but to me he's more like a Supporting Actor...ooohhh I loved that line where Harvey said he doesn't know if they'd be allowed to move the tables together at the restaurant and Bruce was like..."They should...I own the Place"

About the end...what happens to the Joker?? Isn't the bad guy supposed to die kanti?


tha - bang
01 Aug 2008 00:45

Nah thats not how the series works so far.cause in the first one they let the scarecrow;the guy with the ugl musk,to continue into the 2nd film.I think the guys wanted the joker to be in the third film but due to ledgers death i doubt it if it will ever happen.
I do think heath had a better performance but i think at the end the film belongs to the batman in the sense that you really end up sympathising with him and rooting for him.the joker was briliantly played and Heath might get that oscar.lets watchthis space

Brown Shuga
01 Aug 2008 01:20

Oh, this was the first time I watched Batman movie. I'm not really a fan of these "so not real" movies...I didn't even see the last Superman or Matrix.

<<I think the guys wanted the joker to be in the third film but due to ledgers death i doubt it if it will ever happen>>
Which movie were they talking about when they said Heath's role is continued ke bo Johnny Depp, Colin Farrell etc? 
Anyway, if they need the joker for the next one, I think Depp can do a killa job.

Brown Shuga
01 Aug 2008 01:30

Oh, just read this on News24...
Johnny Depp to play Batman Villain The Riddler

Simmone
01 Aug 2008 01:35

@ Tha-Bang your review is seriously making want to go and watch the movie now but I have reservations because I haven’t watched the previous Batman movies and don’t want to get confused about who and how everything fits together like the struggle you go through if you watch Spiderman 2 or 3 but you didn’t watch the previous movie.

tha - bang
01 Aug 2008 01:39

Which movie were they talking about when they said Heath's role is continued ke bo Johnny Depp, Colin Farrell etc?
Thats a Terry Gilliam movie I think it's called the Imaginarium of Dr parnassus and it deals with alternative universes hence he might get away with using the different actors to portray Heath.
asfor johnny depp playing the joker,i doubt it if he will be the same as heath.he will probably adapt it to suit him. like heath adapt his and made it different from that of Jack nicholson.but it would be interesting.
so BS did you go watch the movie due to Heath Ledger?
What's up with the voice that changes when he's in that Batman suit anyway? 
if u noticed both the joker and batman have very disticnt character voices and none of them use teir normal voices when playing these roles.i think bale was just trying to make the batman soud menacing while heath went for creepy

tha - bang
01 Aug 2008 01:43

Johnny Depp as the riddler now thats great news.I can see where the plot will be headed,but i wonder how will they make him more different from Jimcarreys "riddler" cause the two guys ave a very off the wall acting style.
@simmone the movies are self contained you wont bemissing out on anything.check it out,its worth it.

tha - bang
01 Aug 2008 02:01

even philp hoffman as the penguin,it could be really good the combination of hoffman and depp vs the batman.one using the police and the other the criminal underworld

Toxic
01 Aug 2008 02:08

tha-bang, i'm going to watch this over the weekend and i'll come back with my comments cause like Simmone i've never ever watched Batman so will check out whether or not i managed to follow it.

felfel
01 Aug 2008 02:12

By the way....Heath Ledger is dead in real life........RIP

Brown Shuga
01 Aug 2008 02:16

<<so BS did you go watch the movie due to Heath Ledger?>> LOL no, a very smart guy asked me to go watch it with him and I said yes.....

<<<I have reservations because I haven’t watched the previous Batman movies and don’t want to get confused about who and how everything fits together>>>
You won't get confused Simmone, I also didn't watch the previous ones but I enjoyed it.


tha - bang
01 Aug 2008 02:16

sweet will chat on monday then

Cnglemother
01 Aug 2008 02:29

Eish i am very light-hearted and dark humor aint my cuppatea so i will pass Thabs, I am more into cinderella theories and high-school sweetheart stories. This will just give me nightmares. Go peeps and watch and we would love to hear yo views.

lepogo
01 Aug 2008 02:43

 @da cnglemama-
I thought your nightmares were the prospects of a small totolozi....(cudnt resist)

Cnglemother
01 Aug 2008 02:53

He-he-he! Lepogs u know me too well I guess. Pls dont mess Thab's blog with totolozi talk ok? these are sacred grounds. I aint gonna playboy mansionerize this place.

Toxic
01 Aug 2008 02:57

Cngle naaah!!!!! Hayi that's a first chomma......LOL

Ngqesta
01 Aug 2008 03:09

About the end...what happens to the Joker?? Isn't the bad guy supposed to die kanti? ......exactly BS I left the movie theatre feeling robbed in that, the fact that the Joker did not die is just a boring dead give-away that they are planning to  make a sequel. Usually in the end the good guy emerges as a hero and quite victorious, i just don't think that was the case with Batman.

I found the movie to be toooooo long, don't get me wrong I enjoyed it, however I felt the climax was when Harvey Dent's girlfriend died, after that they could have just ended the movie after showing Dent's new face, so really everything that followed was just pointless, I mean when the Joker blew up the hospital and the part where he was planning to blow the two ferries.....I still don't understand what that was all about and therefore feel that the movie would have still been complete without these two scenes. 

I also liked the fact the movie was packed with quite good actors.

Simmone you will not get lost trust me, last night was the first time I watched a Batman movie, I quite enjoyed it.

Brown Shuga
01 Aug 2008 06:33

<<<<I mean when the Joker blew up the hospital and the part where he was planning to blow the two ferries.....I still don't understand what that was all about and therefore feel that the movie would have still been complete without these two scenes.>>> 
You are right, and the first thing I said after I left the cinema was not "Wow, that was a good movie!", I said "I need to watch this movie again" coz I felt there were a few scenes I didn't understand.

Nonny
01 Aug 2008 06:37

Awesome Review Tha - bang - I'll contribute on Monday once I've also seen it!!!!

tha - bang
01 Aug 2008 06:46

after that they could have just ended the movie after showing Dent's new face, so really everything that followed was just pointless, I mean when the Joker blew up the hospital and the part where he was planning to blow the two ferries.....I still don't understand what that was all about and therefore feel that the movie would have still been complete without these two scenes. 
Ngqetsa i thought it was actually brave of the film to continue from there,cause harvey dent fall and the moral questions that the guys at the boat were faced with and the final out come of the movie is where the heart of the themes of this movie came out. Issues like how do we value life and our we a sum of experiences and choices? 
Through Harvey ,the joker was almost proved his point that human beings and modern civilisation is just a farce. But by the guys refusing to give in to his demands and not blowing each other shows that human being are more resilent and good nurtured than the joker gives us credit for.feeble as we but we are not a lost cause.
I suggest u watch the movie again and think about the themes in the film afterwards.
Another thing with the hospital thing did u c the moral complexity that it put the gotham citizens in,for example some had their loved ones in the hospital and the joker threatened to blow it up if they dont kill the account.which asks us question what are we willing to do for the greater good?Are we willing to kill one guy to save thousands or are loved ones?if yes then what about our morals? the dark knight is heavily heavily texteured and  complex flick
as for the joker its fairly obvious that he was caught and true they probably wanted to have him in the thrid movie too.But the dark knight is not an average action movie.


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