victim leave sour message on ASHLEY CALLIE tributes page

poshspice
06 Mar 2008 06:41

WOW…I think wherever she is, she regrets what happened, she seemed like a nice person and I don’t think she meant to cause harm to anyone, all those who drive cars know that it’s by grace and god that we’ve never killed anyone, most of us have driven tipsy, tired and drunk…I just think we shouldn’t pass judgment, what happened to Ashley can happen to anyone…that is if she was really drunk

J-Girl
06 Mar 2008 06:46

yhoooo, i didnt know she was drunk at the time of the accident...

aviebabes
06 Mar 2008 06:49

Yho..hayi this is BAD.....Anyone can make a mistake and she didn't mean to cause an accident.Atleast makabe happy because she is alive.....we can not help it when GOD wants u by his side.

azHOT
06 Mar 2008 06:49

manje sekuthiwa waye phuzile.....YHO

aviebabes
06 Mar 2008 06:50

is it confirmed that she was drunk?

aviebabes
06 Mar 2008 06:50

is it confirmed that she was drunk?

Tynt!
06 Mar 2008 06:54

Only got 3 wrds 4 da victim:

Road Accident Fund

aviebabes
06 Mar 2008 06:54

hehehe........

Mathaz
06 Mar 2008 06:55

No it's not confimed coz the police said they were concentrating on saving lives than testing them, which actually makes sense. Is it really one of the victims who posted that message?

J-Girl
06 Mar 2008 06:57

yhoo i dont know what to say, i've got mixed feelings now i lost 4 family members to a drunk driver but in the same breath i'm not so sure abt this email, who has confirmed she was drunk;
bangaxoki ngomtanabantu kuba ebhubhile ngoku thyini

azHOT
06 Mar 2008 06:57

does anyone have a link to the site?

@ Tynt: RAF is broke. they are going to implement a new compensation procedure wher the "guilty" party compensates the victims. it could take a while kodwa-ke RAF is in it deep. the isht i mean

puchununu
06 Mar 2008 07:04

my word.. this makes me angry..

i dont get y people dont understand the consequences of drink drivin.. if u want to reck ur life.. *bleep!* go ahead but dont mess with the lives of other people... ning ning it was mandoza and i have a feelin the paramedics tried to cover for me... but someone's husband/father has died.. azibuyela emsebenzini.. this is fucked up man.. im a new driver and the thought of drivin on those freeways/highways at night freaks me out coz i dont know what dumb *bleep!* is ready to ruin my life.

pardon my language but im really passionate about this.

my friends know it.. no one drives wen they have been drinkin in my company.. il steal their car keys and we will fight.. or il even call the cops.. like bazonginaka but really guys.. i think its high time we got the msg.. oh oh
whats that guys name on the arrive alive ad... apparently he is also on rhythm city

sponono
06 Mar 2008 07:05

Who said SHE Was DRUNK..eish people.........

to the victim...I wont even attempt to understand how you feel....yet I know that in most motor-accidents injuries minor to major ussually occurand whether there's anyone to blame or 'twas thru lightning..that doesnnt make the pain go away but some peopple get a release if they can blame someone and that eases their pain somehow...I donno if thats the case with you..bUT I hope you'll eventually realise that certain events in life happen beacue they are part of a bigger plan you dont know about and thats what makes life beautiful and ugly at the same time.....having said that(i hate this phrase.) I wish you well and your wounds to heal.......

puchununu
06 Mar 2008 07:09

ok ok not confirmed mara.. jus the thought of that bein true.. freaks me out..

spice
06 Mar 2008 07:12

You stole my article youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (jokes)
this is very disturbing ,the victim is bitter and angry about the accident but i don't think is right for her to leave such a message espc on that blog Miss lee is gone what happened happened it's useless to start pointing fingers can't we just let her soul rest in peace and we'll pray that the victims also get through this trying time

Vutmi
06 Mar 2008 07:14

Whoever wrote the email, must just accept what happened and move on. I know its not easy but he/she cant dwell in the past it will only destroy him/her. Life is too precious to be spent in bitterness. I really hope (and pray) that the email is not some kinda sick joke concorted by some idiot who doesnt have anything better to do.

Only got 3 wrds 4 da victim:

Road Accident Fund.. he he he he

Tynt! swiloyini ka?

Mathaz
06 Mar 2008 07:19

Off topic: Patrice Motsepe has made it into the Forbes List of world's billionaires. Wow, that's an achivement, i really applaud you.

Golden Star
06 Mar 2008 07:23

The links are:
http://hottestgossip.co.za/?p=1707
http://www.respectance.com/AshleyCallie/memories/show/7ddiQqwGVP0XGPi

The message is there but there's nothing saying whether Ashley was drunk or not. My feeling is that anyone could have written that message so it could be real or somebody playing a sick game I don't know.

Nonny
06 Mar 2008 07:26

"Patrice Motsepe has made it into the Forbes List of world's billionaires."................WOW..........can Patrice plz marry my mother she also mature, hot & successful and then he can be an abusive stepfather to ME since I'm too young...........LOL..............just kidding!!!!!!!!!!!

andi01
06 Mar 2008 07:28

Its easier for people to say to the victim, get over it (but in a polite way), if tables were turned and Miss Lee was the victim hear, people would be swearing and cursing and calling the "victim" names, lets be fair people, just bcoz we know and love miss Lee doesnt mean we must treat the victim as if she has no feelings/ emotions. We always call drunk drivers names (which r dont feel like mentioning), why is it different now that is Miss Lee. What kinda example are we setting, that celebrities can do anything and harm anyone bcoz they are celebs. That kinda attitude is whats killing this country, we accept (even though we wont admit) celebs to sleep around, but when they die we are the first once to mourn. i say lets be fair and realistic here and look at the coin from both sides.

*before you comment pls make sure you understand my points, if anything is not clear pls ask for clarity, you scare me lately, u have turned it scavengers ready to attack" rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

spice
06 Mar 2008 07:29

HAiiiiiiii lona don't say ,you mean it might be a prank shuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!! Batho ba modimo

azHOT
06 Mar 2008 07:30

@ Mathaz... am not hating but have you any idea how unsafe some of his firm(s) are? my boss had to go to the firm in Cato Ridge near Maritzburg where some gas killed people and he was cursing Motsepe and Ramaphosa. apparently the safety codes have been SO ignored. lotsa peeps have died ther.

On the forbes listing:one step for Patrice, a giant leap for mankind.....

spice
06 Mar 2008 07:32

LMAO Andie bathong we won't bite you we hear you, some valid points you made all we are saying is whats the use of blabering, whats done it's done we need to move on

Nonny
06 Mar 2008 07:34

Andile, that is a good comment there, especially the part where u say: "if tables were turned and Miss Lee was the victim hear, people would be swearing and cursing and calling the "victim" names, lets be fair people, just bcoz we know and love miss Lee doesnt mean we must treat the victim as if she has no feelings/ emotions." .................that is so true, just becoz Miss Lee was sweet and love by most people refuse to believe the worst about her!!!!

spice
06 Mar 2008 07:37

Azhot you for real? I thought he ( motsepe) was a considerate and decent man and he was for the people not the moolah ,shocking cant you give us the whole story my lavh

puchununu
06 Mar 2008 07:37

dudie from arrive alive ad

mabhebheza
06 Mar 2008 07:39

*CLAPPPING MY HANDS* @Andi01...

Nonny
06 Mar 2008 07:40

"whats the use of blabering, whats done it's done we need to move on"..........The use of blabbering is that the victim will realise that we are all human and even though the postmoterm report has revealed clearly that Misss Lee was in the woring she has to find it in her heart to forgive her and make peace with the fact that what has happened has happend. When u have a sense of hatred or unforgiveness for someone that hate and anger serves as a uneccessary burden to u, so u need to forgive the person not only for them, but mostly for urself!!!!

andi01
06 Mar 2008 07:44

Yes Spice I hear you all, but what I mean is,whats the use of blabering, we need to consider that maybe she is not just blabering but finding ways to deal with her pain, "they say letting it all out heals". whats done it's done we need to move on, maybe we just saying that coz we not familier with the face, we dont know her how can we pity what we dont know. (i.e u listen to the news and they say people in Sierra Leone are dying of hunger, you feel bad, OK, but when u watch the news and see children's ribs sticking out, then you cry), so what I mean is we always are touched by what we see. Also if whats done is done, wasnt whats done done when it was Lebo Mathosa, do u remember how most of us were negative towards the driver, couldnt we just say then alright "whats done it's done we need to move on", we'll move on and it wasnt your fault.

spice
06 Mar 2008 07:46

True dat Andie and Nonny now I feel bad : (

Tynt!
06 Mar 2008 07:48

She beta deal with it, coz she is nt the only victim of drink en driving, sum of us have bin en stl livin with evidence.....
And yes we delt with it, blaming Lee wont bring her precious legs back...

*Or myb she is still mentally unstable*.....

Sumbadi beta save her!!!

Segololo
06 Mar 2008 07:51

I still wanna know what the families that Mandoza killed their children feel and say... the tables are definitely turned on that case bacuse he survived they didn't!

Segololo
06 Mar 2008 07:58

we know that he was at the awards where free booze flowed and he rushed home to deliver his wife and rush back! For what? more booze...

Ashley, we still don't know whether she was drunk or not. I am sorry for the trauma the victims are going through because they can't really get answers but getting vengeful by sending posts on public websites may not be the ideal way - trauma counselling and getting in touch with the Callie family to voice their feelings may be right. They can get the family to "apologise" and they can see the Callie family loss... S/He lived and will be able to get past this, it will take time and will be a painful process, the Callie family will never see Ashley.

I lost 5 family members on an accident on 2 january 1995. Drunk driver who managed to run off and till now we don't know what happened except my uncle and my cousins are gone, my aunt could only have one child and she lost her hubby and child on that day. my family doesn't celebrate new year but acknowledge its existence because we are reminded that my uncle and cousins are not here to celebrate with us!

Earth
06 Mar 2008 08:00

Ashley Callie is NOT Lee and Lee is NOT Ashley...yes, we all know that Lee would never drive under the influence,but we are not so sure about Ashley Callie...hhhmmmmm

But in the end,a re tlhompheng ba ba letseng.

Dintha
06 Mar 2008 08:02

Strue bob, waarheid Tynt. Call me haertless or stonecold but my boyfriend and I knocked down someone. Was shocked @ that moment and all but next day we carried on with our lives because what is done is done. We can not spend the rest of our lives , mopping, replaying and wishing we could change the past. Motho wabatho, all I can say to you is accept, heal and live as if there's no tomorrow. By the way, still waiting to hear if we're guilty or not.........

Segololo
06 Mar 2008 08:05

Tynt: <<And yes we delt with it, blaming Lee wont bring her precious legs back...>>You are wrong. Those comments are really hurtful, insensitive and need not be said or voiced to anyone. This "victim" is in real pain and has gone thru a traumatic experience and until you go through the same, God forbid you don't, you will never understand his/her current state of mind.

We cannot condemn her/his feelings because Ashley was a public figure. Her family is also in pain but the cause of her death, the accident - has left victims that are dealing with the pain everyday and will most likely not be able to forget them. We cannot victimise them any further when the accident had already made them suffer.

I would like to suggest thet you apologise to us, the bloggers, and the victim.

andi01
06 Mar 2008 08:07

@ Tynt, here is a scenario

There is a TVSA get 2gether in Pretoria and one in Joburg. You attend in Pretoria and I in joburg, the party carries on until 1am, every one is drinkind and enjoying themselves, but you choose not to, even though very very tempted. you fight the temptations bcoz u care about ur life, you want 2 further ur goals and pursue your ambitions. You are so determined that no amount of alcohol can deter your aims. you choose not to drink.

Here I am in the Joburg gathering, having a ball, drinking myself to death & finishing off everyone's glasses even though spice and nonny are begging me to stop. i am as drunk as a skunk they steal my car keys, oblivous to the fact that i have a spare. I sneak out and drive home, and being on that state i decide to go see if my BF in Pretoria isnt cheating on me. On ur way back, here I come, driving on the wrong side of the road. I crash into ur car and I die. You are left paralysed, u cant hold ur 2 month old baby daughter, as she looks at you and cries for her mothers touch, all bcoz of my recklessness.

Would you say, (quoting ur words) I beta deal with it, coz i aint the only victim of drink en driving, many people have bin en stl livin with evidence, blaming Andile wont bring my precious legs back, and wont give me the feeling of holding my only baby that I saw pray for.

spice
06 Mar 2008 08:09

Dintha are you saying you killed someone and you easily got over it ? is that what youre saying pls clarify

Segololo
06 Mar 2008 08:10

thank you Andi!

spice
06 Mar 2008 08:14

Eish Andile why maar vele

sponono
06 Mar 2008 08:24

OOPS...I'm sory BUT when I first read andi01's line about TVSA get 2gether..i thought..yeepy I'm so there....yoh ukuthand'izinto....

ok seriously i'll go bck and read it properly without thining of inkwari

sponono
06 Mar 2008 08:26

spice....dont go all Judge Judy on Dintha ...hi hi hi hi hi hi LOL

kodwake I agree with Sego and andi01...(and evrione who agrees with me)

Nonny
06 Mar 2008 08:27

Andi01, thank u, u are too damn GOOD, ur response and Joburg get-to-gether example is on point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

andi01
06 Mar 2008 08:30

@Spice, they say treat your neighbours as you also want to be treated. We are all made of flesh and blood, so when it hurts, it hurts. I am very sad gore Miss Lee has passed on, she was still very younger and had a great potential it is a great loss indeed.
What I see in this victims letter is hope and faith more than crying for spilled milk, as so to say.pray that my best friend will come back to me and that she can overcome the brain damage. you didn't deserve to die because you should be here to see the effects of your drunk driving. Even though miss Lee has caused her so much pain and she is very very angry at her, there is that glimpse of hope that if maybe she was still alive, she would answer the victims questions, she would make her understand. Yazi when some1 does us wrong we always wish them dead or kill them oursleves, but the fact that the victim in her statement rules out the choice of death (which human nature regard as the punishment for doing bad) means that she is subconciously considering to forgive her one day and hopes to be able to tell her coz if she's dead, she will never be able to.

Dintha
06 Mar 2008 08:30

Spice, culpable homicide. Guy walked into the car and he was intoxicated. Road was dark and no one had a cellphone. Left scene and went to police station. Who took our details, told us to go as the place was not under their juristiction. next day we were "abo-wanted" by cops who'd found the dead man lying in a ditch. Could go on but iut's time to go home.

Nah Nah
06 Mar 2008 08:40

But for real guys.....why cant we do the TVSA get together... Its such a dope idea...

sponono
06 Mar 2008 08:42

here's my top ten list of people who need some people's forgiveness...(WARNING THIS IS MY NASTY REPLY OF THE DAY.....(sensitive viewers stay clear)

1.Aurthor.....: Queen, DjCleo, Zombo(rip), purity..LOL and other latest singing sentations who are now working at steers as waitresses..hi hi
2.Jacob Zuma....:for shaggin that girl and sending her on exile...(donno where she is..but he needs her forgiveness serias
3.Patrice Motsepe...: from former mine workers who lost their jobs becoz of his apparently "lean and mean management style" which turned his fortunes around..(per Forbes Article)
4.The guy driving Lebo Mathosa'z car....kwangempela you need forgiveness
5.the grigamba that fed Mabrrendana with drugs till she died
6.The guys who hijcked Patricia Majalisa and asked her to sing while driving in her car and dumped her somewhere in sowheretoo
7.Whoeva started those Sbudah Rumors
8.Travellgate MP's..and other MP's who are fat slobs and are sen dozing off during parliamentary sessions...(they didnt ask for it..so please baxoleleleni you'll onyl understand when you get on the gravytrain and get the moolah yoself...)
9.Eishkom top-management......get over it people darkness is actually in yo soul if you still complaining about load shedding
10. Finally all the bloggers who've displayed signs of being a bit skizo & cookoo they need forgiveness pronto (i might be in this catergory....LOL

thats all for today

Nonny
06 Mar 2008 08:56

LOL at Sponza...............heehehehehehehe............ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

andi01
06 Mar 2008 09:00

@Sponono- kwa kwa kwa, phela wena awazi ukuthi Umsholozi ngubabomncane wefriend, yecousin yomakhewlani wam, ngizotshela umakhelwane wam, atshele icouzin yakhe, itshele ifriend yayo, ibese itshele ubaba wayo atshele ke yena umntakwabo (zuma) haaaaaaaaaaaa, i can already see Msholozi coming after you with his machine gun, but dont worry, coz that shower on top of his head is very heavy, he wont catch you, unless he sends Miss baleka (hence the name gijima/ run) to catch u for him.

sponono
07 Mar 2008 00:01

ok maybe forgivness for Aurthur is not necessary cause this guy is sort of setting the record straight....from Sowetan..the ragga star Stich says:
“I have Aids. I am dying,” Stitch, whose real name is Lucas Tshepo Setwaba, told Sowetan yesterday.
But unlike Zombo he blames no one but himself for his predicament.
The 31-year-old, who was once in Arthur Mafokate’s Stable 999, discovered his status last December when he started losing weight after being diagnosed with TB.
“I was not surprised when I found out because I was very promiscuous. I had too many girlfriends and did not use condoms half the time,” he said.
“ I’m in this situation because of my own doing. Arthur has nothing to do with it. He owes me nothing

Cande
07 Mar 2008 00:13

Haiyke, does he also want a share of the artist-to-artist trust fund?
Let Ms Lee rest in peace bathong, what is done is done and the only way for that victim of the accident to get over it is to accept it. Unfortunately she is not here to pay for what she has done..

andi01
07 Mar 2008 00:15

Haiyke, does he also want a share of the artist-to-artist trust fund?, it doesnt sy so on the e-mail, let us not create assumptions just to make her look bad.

Renegade
07 Mar 2008 00:20

Tsho, this is really hectic. I doubt it was really a victing though, I don't see someone who's been through that going a website and posting something like that. I could be wrong though, and if I am, then I really feel for her.

sponono
07 Mar 2008 00:22

Cande...he said his celeb friends sometimes come and leave some "goodies" for him....so obviously he'll expect them to continue....with the goddies..even IF he passes away..hopefully he will get ARV's.....

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 01:31

Spices, don’t know if you're logged on today maar had to rush izolo but I'm here to finish my ndabazana from izolo. Yes, we killed someone. The cops didn't keep us or take any samples. They just took our cell# & looked at the messed up car. Following day cops were looking for us and we were "apprehended" on our past the scene. Crime scene was filled with cops, It was 10am, deceased was still there. Had the guy not been drunk I would've felt guilt, had his father not cried over the dead body while heavy reeking of alcohol, still drunk I would've felt something for him but I didn't. So, Spice to answer you, we got away with it and will get away with it again if people don't know they must not get on the road if they are drunk. It happens a lot in Cape Town, the Cape Winelands. There's no witness, not much evidence against us except the dead body plus court will have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that we were negligent & at fault.

andi01
07 Mar 2008 02:06

@ Dintha, had his father not cried over the dead body while heavy reeking of alcohol, still drunk I would've felt something for him but I didn't, are you saying that the father could have sobered up before mourning for his dead son?, we dont know all the circumstances that lead to alcoholism (esp in Cape winelands, with slavery and racism), so in other words you saying that drunkards desreve to have their sons killed and not mourn about that, come now Dintha be a little sensitive.

I dont feel sorry for the guy that died, what the F**** was he doing walking across the road at night while drunk.

Cande
07 Mar 2008 02:12

@ andi01 Haiyke, does he also want a share of the artist-to-artist trust fund?, it doesnt sy so on the e-mail, let us not create assumptions just to make her look bad.
He==meaning Stitch a.k.a "Lucas Tshepo Setwaba"

sponono
07 Mar 2008 02:13

Dintha...I wonder if you'd say the same thing if the guy happened to be someone close to you who was DRUNK and for some reason unknown to you..crossed the road at night.....i just wonder thats all.....BUT ke if it makes you feel betta ...i suppose you'd put it like that.....i aso wonder if he was sober and just crossed the road...you'd THEN feel sorry for him....(this is like people who say...haau bathong why did so & so have to die......now the question is WHO was supposed to die instead of that

andi01
07 Mar 2008 02:31

@cande, ma bad girl, i just read over the he and thought u referring to Miss lee's case, a 1003 apologies

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 02:49

Do you guys ever think about the people who survive? People mna I always believe that whateva happens was supposed to happen. Doesn't matter how we can try to justify our past actions. The guy, who died, is gone. Here I'm sitting still being judged for driving in a sober state. Bathong, do you guys know how difficult it is to avoid an accident? Had we swerved and moved to the other lane, we would have hit an on coming car which there wasn't but could've been. Had we swerved into the yellow lane we might have rolled off into the ditch and I wouldn't be sitting here making you guys have all these mixed emotions. Everything that happens, happens for a reason. If it wasn't going to be a drunken guy then it was going to be someone else. As for the father, we cannot blame our environment for the people we are. You choose to be an alcoholic. It was destined for us to knock someone down. Just remember this verse Jer 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you......Thanx sponono

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 02:57

@Andi01 being cross questioned by incompetent police & still seeing a drunk person, one who reminded me so much of the one who will forever be a part of my life just really killed any sense of emotion I had. He didn't have to sober up. Had he listened when the deceased buddy told him his son was hit by a ar he could've done something instead of worrying about finishing teh wine. Who knows, the son could've been safed but they waited for ADT to spot him lying in a ditch the following morning ngabopast 9.

azHOT
07 Mar 2008 03:00

@ Dintha: alcoholism is a desease and NO, nobody chooses it.

don't judge anyone until you've walked a mile in their shoes*sniff*

Tynt!
07 Mar 2008 03:01

You are wrong. Those comments are really hurtful, insensitive and need not be said or voiced to anyone. This "victim" is in real pain and has gone thru a traumatic experience and until you go through the same, God forbid you don't, you will never understand his/her current state of mind.

14/02/2006 (Tuesday) on my way to home from church, I was knocked down by a drunkard, my car was a right off (of which is not an issue). I went thru 6 diff operations ( some same nyt, en sum the ff day) with a month old foetus growing on my womb. Was @ ICU for ova a month, on a wheel chair for 4 mnths, walked with crutches for 8 mnths, not forgetting to mention the plasters on both my legs( from hip to toe on the other leg)… He ( the drunkard) neva died, en sustained no scars no pain at all, and yes the borrowed car was damaged…

I still have a difficulty walking, as a result I cant exercise nor walk for a long distance ( still on therapy), have a serious back problem… and the plates on my leg they get so painfull in a way that no pain killer can help.

I have dealt with it, accepted that *bleep!* happens, but at the end of the day I must be great full that the lord gave me and my daughter a chance to live and make things right. I lived en survived all this by the word (4rm the bible). Being bitter and saying all the worst about the person at fault won’t heal you. Trust me: when u are close to death, the only thing that can get you back to earth is faith, hope en prayer, no bitterness at all( it might delay ur healing process)

U might nt be able to hold ur 2 mnths old, bt atleast u cn see them grow..

He the drunkard neva said a word,
Case is still pending...

mazemnyama
07 Mar 2008 03:08

we deal with emotions in completely different ways i understand why "ashley's victim" wrote that. Everyone is focussing on how sad it is that Miss lee passed on and how good a person she was mara there were two cars in that collision and the fact of the matter is her car was in the wrong lane. shame as much as kubuhlungu kulo ashley kubuhlungu naku lo Victims

Dintha mara you sound so righteous its scary yes the person was drunk his father was drunk but still a life is lost and thats the most important thing. you just sound so unfeeling. yah u were right he was wrong but he dead now

andi01
07 Mar 2008 03:11

@Dintha , I hope u read this I dont feel sorry for the guy that died, what the F**** was he doing walking across the road at night while drunk. and understood, infact I feel better that he was killed instead of you guys,

But what I am saying is you are insesitive towards the father. The old man doesnt have to babysit his son and make sure he doesnt cross the road when he is drunk as well as your parents dont babysit you to ensure that you dont drive over drunk people (i undersatand it wasnt ur fault but murder was committed, in the eyes of the law and teh world u could be innocent, but I am not sure whether in heavens eyes you'd be as innocent, "hence thou shall not kill").
Had he listened when the deceased buddy told him his son was hit by a ar he could've done something instead of worrying about finishing teh wine. Who knows, the son could've been safed, this statement is based on what ifs, and assumptions which I choose not to debate on, I prefer facts.

still seeing a drunk person, one who reminded me so much of the one who will forever be a part of my life just really killed any sense of emotion, in other words you are saying that when you told us your story, instead of trying to understand where you coming from and the extent of the accident we could have been judgemental and angry at you bcoz you remind us of other drivers that kill people in our roads, now do you think thats fair.

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:35

I like what we have here. Emotions flying very high. Well, guys, maybe it's a good thing that I opened up to you all and now I'm getting to find out how you guys feel, the objective perception and it's good for me. Exactly what my psychologist said I needed. Please refrain from using the word fair in such heated debates as nothing in life is really fair. As for what happened, it happened and we have different ways of dealing with things. I could be walking around asking people to feel sorry for me for witnessing that & going thru something like that but I prefer to move on. I did not kill the person. The person walked into the car. I was just connected to him leaving this earth. I have no blood on my hands but my bonnet. Old man did not have to baby sit but as a parant when you hear your child has been hit by a car what is the first thing you do? You'd rush over but that didn't happen. My mom didn't babysit me either, it would've happened had she been there or not. Guess, some people are just tougher than others or as society would put it, insensitive.

andi01
07 Mar 2008 03:45

what is the first thing you do? You'd rush over but that didn't happen, if you were 100% certain that he was told, (as in you told him urself), then we would debate this, but again this is hear-say or assumptions!!!!!!!!!!.
My mom didn't babysit me either, it would've happened had she been there or not, wouldnt there boy die been killed whether his father was there or not, whether he left his wine and went 2 the scene of the accident. As u have insinuated before, the father is a drunkard, not a paramedic, his presence could have made no difference (believe that). Shifting the blame doesnt make you less guilty or less innocent.
Dintha- i feel for you for witnessing such trauma, for being the medium/ transport of death to some who cared less about his life and that of others.The fact that, that man's family might look at you as the people that killed their brother, coz honestly you do not deserve that label, the man died because he was careless period!!!!, my pain is brought upon by the way you are treating his father, by the insesitivity you are showing the old man. His son might have been a drunkard (like father like son), but to him surely he was always his son, the same way that you bonded to ur folks.

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:54

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:54

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way.

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:54

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:54

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:54

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:54

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena,

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:54

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:54

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to.

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'sll

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my lif

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life ans

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt that

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt that life

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt that life is

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt that life is too

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt that life is too short

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt that life is too short to

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt that life is too short to have

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt that life is too short to have regrets

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt that life is too short to have regrets and

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt that life is too short to have regrets and moaning

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt that life is too short to have regrets and moaning about

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt that life is too short to have regrets and moaning about the

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 03:55

andi01 my der, you're entitled to your opinion and feeling all emotional but agree that there are 2 sides to a story but for now you have mine and all you can do is either accept or question which you won't get answers to.

I'm glad we're starting to get to the point that it doesn't matter who was there, what happened the boy ( by the way it was a guy older than me, an adult who should've known better) was going to die anyway. It was written in the books so blame or no blame he died but not because I went out of my way to kill him. He went out of his way. Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to. It'll only take away so much of my life and I've learnt that life is too short to have regrets and moaning about the past.

Pooky
07 Mar 2008 03:56

6.The guys who hijcked Patricia Majalisa and asked her to sing while driving in her car and dumped her somewhere in sowheretoo

Sponza is this true, they asked her to sing kodwa byamuhijacka???....abanye abantu kodwa.......... bantu please toe ningacingi ukuba ndi insensitive heish kodwa the imegary is killing me...hayi kodwa Sponza i dont believe you man....say it aint so man..

Mathaz
07 Mar 2008 03:58

@Dintha, yoour responses indicate to me that you are deeply hurt and scared and somehow blame yourself for that man's life. You might potray this "everything happens for a reason" attitude but inside yoour soul is looking for forgiveness from the vicitms family.

Everything does not happen for a reason instead God chooses to work on the decisions and choices we make.

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 04:00

Eish, askies guys but guess that my screen probably telling me it's had enough of me and this accident. Been telling it so many times and been trying to defend myself ever since. If there happens to be a court case then I'll be able to tell it in my sleep.

Nonny
07 Mar 2008 04:01

Thanks Dinitha for a thousand and three responses, now I can't find the article I want to respond on................LOL...........Jus kidding, it's okay it's understandable given the topic at hand!!!

andi01
07 Mar 2008 04:01

@Dintha thanks girl, I always wanted an article with 100 replies that have my name on them, u have just doen that LOL.

Maar keng ka wena, trying to make me feel guilty because I'm not going to, ha-a sisi I aint trying to make u feel guilty, just that u r not being fair to th eold men (thats my opinion), i dont care about de mafacka you hit, we pay millions from our tax money warning people about "arrive alive", if one chooses to ignore the warnings, thats his fish to fry. but u should feel remorse for the old man period!!!!!!!!!!

Vutmi
07 Mar 2008 04:04

@ Dintha...did you get a spasm just there or are your fingers doing the giggly sizzles?

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 04:06

Mathaz, thanking you very much for comin gup for me. Bless you for that line God chooses to work on the decisions and choices we make. Strue bob and still say He is the one makes the final decision. Man's life doesn't lie in his own hands or that of another man but that of God his creator. Dankie, ngiyabonga kuleyo indawo.

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 04:11

Vutmi, I think I got so excited in all of this having offloaded and doing all that stuff abo-Dr Phil say you must do. Askies once more bathong. Andi01 niyithandakabi i-attention. If you're not careful I might just knock you down too. You've been warned.

sponono
07 Mar 2008 04:19

Pooky ITS TRUE...i donno how but one day I found myself googling Patricia majalisa...and there the story was.......these guys were bad...(imagine if they asked Lucky dube to sing I'm a prisner...shu!! ok thats insetitive..but i couldnt help it.....forgive me....yoh!!!

Mathaz you've just explained it ...tru hey the way we "defend" certain things might just display our own fears/hurt/confusion and helplessness on what we coulda/shulda done and didnt or couldnt....NOW I understand Dintha's position

Nonny
07 Mar 2008 04:20

"You've been warned"
Something tells things are about to get hot in here, so come on people and grab a cold six pack and chill with me.............LOL

andi01
07 Mar 2008 04:21

@Dintho- Yazi we might dis-aggre in many ways, but here at TVSA i have learnt many things, i love it when peps disagree with me, coz i take all the negative criticism and use it in my own positive way. I can promise u one thing, none of us is judging you, we just giving you some tough love that you might need in the long run. atleast thats what tvsa, has been doing to me.

Nonny
07 Mar 2008 04:22

"...(imagine if they asked Lucky dube to sing I'm a prisner...shu!! ok thats insetitive..but i couldnt help it.....forgive me....yoh!!!"..............ROTFLMAO>>>>>>>>>>> u are forgiven Sponono, velevele kuyahlekwa noma kufiwe..*and I mean that in it's literal sense!!!*

Nonny
07 Mar 2008 04:24

"Yazi we might dis-aggre in many ways, but here at TVSA i have learnt many things, i love it when peps disagree with me, coz i take all the negative criticism and use it in my own positive way. I can promise u one thing, none of us is judging you, we just giving you some tough love that you might need in the long run. atleast thats what tvsa, has been doing to me."
Hat's off Andi. that was deep and I am sure even Dintha is touched, angithi?????

sponono
07 Mar 2008 04:29

andi01...awu bakiti ...why cant others see it yo way awu bakiti nkos wanuntu!!!!! ngan yakhe!!!!!wen pelo!!!!

mseu
07 Mar 2008 04:36

"She beta deal with it, coz she is nt the only victim of drink en driving, sum of us have bin en stl livin with evidence.....
And yes we delt with it, blaming Lee wont bring her precious legs back..." Bathong you couldn't have said it better I'm with on that. I'm a victim of drink en driving we lost my brother but we have since learnt to accept the situation. as there was no reason for blaming the driver for what has happened. Maybe it is time that people must know that everything happens for a reason, not that somebody has planned for it or done it on purpose. so sisi move on and accept what happened to you friend yes it is bad to loose someone that you love. Kodwa ke blaming other people is not going to help you in anyway. Just deal with your condition and concentrate on getting better. Sikhala kanye nawe sisi.

mseu
07 Mar 2008 04:38

And that is if Miss Lee was really drunk which we don't know.

Nanana
07 Mar 2008 04:41

yhu

andi01
07 Mar 2008 06:37

@ Sponono do u remember dat song

whe sponono, whe sponono, whe sponono, sam X4
unyhwe, unyhwe, unyhwe nyhwe nyhwe nyhwe.

I think it was Mdu's or something, u name reminds me of iskhathi sami bandla

sponono
07 Mar 2008 06:47

andi01 i think Mdu had a cheese factroy instead of a studio for every song thats all....LOL

remember this classic of his
sohlangan'emakethe spheth'amazambane WTF

andi01
07 Mar 2008 06:52

How can i forget, i am a number kwaito fan, anything goes 4 me, but when it comes to Masilela I have to be picky, I am sorry.

Username
07 Mar 2008 06:56

I think the victim has every right to be bitter. If all you guys could remember Ashley Callie acceptance speech at the Saftaz. She became the arrive alive spokesperson. “Don’t drink and drive and wear your seat belt, after Lebo died.

If the reports are true then the family and the victims have the right to express their pain and not keep quiet just because the person who caused the accident was a celebrity. If the driver of the Renault was at fault the media would be calling for the return of the death penalty.

Put yourselves in their shoes and see if you would remain that careless about their grief.

Dintha
07 Mar 2008 06:59

Sikhala kanye nawe sisi. I can truly say I understand. Been knocked down myself (lightly kabo 1990) but lived to see another day and also have the role reversed. Life just carries on.

Nonny I was almost touched but then thought I had to do without a car coz insurance had issues, got a lecture from my mom for driving with a man ebusuku, my whole family back home knew and abantu basemakhaya aren't that understanding and will probably pass it on to their greatgrankids & bedroom life died just like that. Not even viagra (do they have for women?) could help....

Teej
19 Apr 2008 03:01

5.the grigamba that fed Mabrrendana with drugs till she died
6.The guys who hijcked Patricia Majalisa and asked her to sing while driving in her car and dumped her somewhere in sowheretoo
9.Eishkom top-management......get over it people darkness is actually in yo soul if you still complaining about load shedding......ROTFLMAO @ Sponono,you made my day.

Eish Dintha Bathong!!!!!!!!

LOL @ Vutmi and Nonny you guys are just crazy

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