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Debt Derailed

Written by madomado from the blog Money Issues on 29 Jan 2008
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The end of the month is the time we all look forward to, i believe. We are always excited to go to the bank for that money we've worked so hard for. (ok, I'm always excited). But the question is, how long does the excitement last?

Back in varsity, my roomate and I had this thing of going to different restaurants every month end. We had a list of all the restaurants in town that we wanted to eat at, and we had some critics business going on. We did the same with movies, seeing all the movies in circuit and reviewing them; just for fun. 

As time went by and we grew up, moved out of res, graduated, started working, became independent, we lost that. Why?? We had other things to do with money, What?? Pay off debt. We found that we had credit at three different retail stores already, we are paying off our cars, we are renting, and there are credit cards. 

Some of us get to the point where, we've sunk so deep into debt that the minute we get paid there's already loopholes that need to be closed. 
Excitement turns into FRUSTRATION.  


I consider myself still very young, but its very sad that, at this age, I cant buy anything in cash..And I look at all these things i bought in credit, and i realise, i'd still have afforded them if i wasnt in a debt-trap. Instead, I'm in a debt spiral and i have no idea what i will live on, should I lose my job today.

How does one reach a point of ending the trauma and "living in cash??? Is there a step-by-step formula of balancing your credit. I, for one, sure need all the advise.

Its not even the end of the month yet, but between the 25th & today, my bank account has run dry. I'm already broke and waiting for next payday. 

Why does this happen? How can I get out of this? Am I the only one experiencing this misfortune?


 




82 Comments

madomado
29 Jan 2008 04:15

Please help!!!!!

J-Girl
29 Jan 2008 04:19

yho madomado i feel you mchana!!!

belz
29 Jan 2008 04:38

madondo thanks for the article shem nam' im in the situation mina i  havent been paid for January but im already looking forward to February payday, phela vele imali yat his monthend iphelile before it even reaches my bank account, i also need advise.

LM
29 Jan 2008 04:42

I hear you Mado; I guess one way or the other we are all in this predicament. The financial gurus say that you need to separate your wants from your needs and only spend your cash on your needs until you hv enough moola to afford the wants. For starters look at what you drive or wear (that's where more moola is lost).....ask yourself whether it is necessary to drive a car that comes with all the bells and whistles that you can barely afford...or wear that R1000 plus jean bought on credit, etc.....????

I must admit that if I were to be fired today I will be poor because I don't have that 3 to six months salary stashed somewhere at the bank. Retirement money is for retirement.

Here's my two cents' worth of advice: 
Account (write it down..u might think it tedious at first) for any money that leave your pocket (whether for bread, can of drink etc).....you will hv an idea of which part of your spending is the culprit of ur situation.

Use ur 13th cheque to clear debts insted of going to a shopping spree, u'll thank urself later. This only works if u not gonna go back and create more debt.

All in all we are spenders...we need the latest of everything and unfortunately we are not loaded.

cocktail
29 Jan 2008 04:43

eish sani,i also need a recipe now,i have spent so much during the festive season ,n the met was on the way....now its only me and the bills,n its not even funny..........

spice
29 Jan 2008 04:46

I spend a lot of my money on unnecessary things like entertainment it's scary ,I need help pronto otherwise the'll lock me up cause my bills keep on piling

belz
29 Jan 2008 04:51

Thanks LM, yazi last year i wanted to pay my debts nge13th cheque kodwa  a lot of things popped up nje from nowhere, so i ended up using this money and my salary for all these things. madomado maybe you must join umholiswano, then when its your turn you can use the money to cover some debts, well at least the little debts.

cocktail
29 Jan 2008 05:00

@Belz atleast u got a 13th check unlike mna shame,.........Spice sisi siyafana,nam bethuna on a serious note i need help,on how to mantain money n fancial advicers in this site,plz help a sista in need.......

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 05:02

mina nje i need a miracle. literally swimming in isht!

zazalicious
29 Jan 2008 05:13

I agree with LM last year I was in debts then I sat down with my hubby we checked what is it that we are paying so much, and we found out that we are driving a car that we cant afford we sold the car and now things are much better......we are left with cars that we had finished paying them  there is no need to drive a fancy car or own a house that we cant afford 

I was always on overdraft and my credit card was a mess......

Sdakamiswa
29 Jan 2008 05:19

Because you can get credit to buy whatever stuff does not necessarily mean you can 'afford’ that stuff…I think this is where we mostly fail. Lessons I’ve learnt is to, draw up a budget and stick to it, avoid emotional spending, hope and pray that nothing breaks (necessary unplanned expenditure)…. & then work hard to get that bonus, discrectionary increase and promotion to the next level……

Tynt!
29 Jan 2008 05:20

@LM

Account (write it down..u might think it tedious at first) for any money that leave your pocket (whether for bread, can of drink etc).....you will hv an idea of which part of your spending is the culprit of ur situation. 

Nyc 1, will try it...

Segololo
29 Jan 2008 05:23

Let's just say I can't afford nothing... and nothing is free, right?

Life is hard! I know that by the end of this year, I want to be debt-free! that is all I really want this year!

Lekese
29 Jan 2008 05:26

In addition to what LM has said, what you also need to do if you can afford it, is pay a little extra towards your debt every month, that reduce the interest charged at the end of the month.

Also, learn or rather force yourself to save. Some months it's gonna be hard to put away that R100 but do it anyway, it will help in the long run.

madomado
29 Jan 2008 05:27

azhot now you are the person that makes me feel 'normal' . I've sunk so deep it's not funny anymore. 

Belz, I've tried that. Had problems including it in the already-so-packed budget. After the first cycle, i dropped out.

LM thanks, will try keep record. But the web just keeps growing. 
I'm in a sad state, mense. Accounts in arrears and threats of being listed in the credit bureau.

Need a serious miracle.

Nonny
29 Jan 2008 05:28

Nice one Madomado, mina I still fail to understand how do people manage to sink so deep in2 debt that their money gets finished b4 they even have an opportunity to withdraw it!!!!

lilmama
29 Jan 2008 05:30

Ta Mado for the article....it might help a lot of people and not only you.
I'm no guru when it comes to issues like these but I've moved from a point where every month I'ld be left with zero on my bank account to a point where I have an excess (praise gawd) and its not because of increases - I just had enough of all the month-end frustrations..
This is what I did.....
1st thing I did was for a month - spend my money the way I'ld normally do it - with no concerns about being broke a week before pay day. The only difference now would be - keep a record of everything (like already mentioned here). In that way you have an idead of what exactly you spend the bulk of your money on...For me those trips to Mac'D and the office canteen almost everyday. 
The next step was to find ways in which I can save money without punishing myself...Pack your own lunch, cook at home - if you are going out eat at home then go out for drinks. Leave that R300 shirt and go for a R150 one... Basically let go of all luxuries and treat yourself only once in a while. 
The next was to open another bank account - give the card to a trusted friend and sign a stop order for a certain amount of money to go to that account every month...(obviously you must be realistic with this as well - based on how much you saved above). That will be your rainy day fund.
The next thing is to make sure that once any store and credit cards are paid off - you close them off. You should keep 1 credit card in use for those unforseen circumstances and to maintain a good credit record. You know if you have no credit history - even if you can afford a car/home loan - they may not give it to you.
Any extra cash you make - its not for a spree, its to pay off your debt untill you are sorted - then you can go on that shopping spree.

Its also unrealistic to say you won't buy clothes, shoes and bags for 6 months - at the end of the day you're a girl...So just change the shops and you still satisfy your shoppinf fetish.

Another thing...some debt is good...Car and House - unless you have rich parents you will have to get that on credit...But manage the rest of the other things well. And never allow yourself to buy food on credit - even if you are in a resturant.

belz
29 Jan 2008 05:35

lilmama, i really am taking notes, thanks!!!!

madomado
29 Jan 2008 05:39

tjo, lilmama. I'm printing this.

Best-Achiever
29 Jan 2008 05:41

here is my 2 cent advice to all of you who are in debt, it worked for me and it can work for you, im not in anywhere near debts and i'll keep it that way.

1. You real dont need that credit card that you use for entertainment or fashion purposes(that's what i was doing before), and if you can look deep there you'll see that you are spending a lot of money in some things that you eventual get bored with within a month.

2. You real dont have to eat out every weekend, find receip and try something new at home, you'll save yourself a little more(u can spoil yourself maybe once in a month). And you real dont have to go to cinemas everytusday just because  its Half price ... rent some movies and invite some friend, honetly you still gonna enjoy it and it will save you some cash.

3. Stop with gadgets, you real dont need that i-pod is you have cd's, phone with that function(music player) and radio or dvd at Home, you can play ur music from your phone, your car or dvd or radio

4. try to make a budget before you hit that road to a shopping mall and stick by it. try to buy in bundles for all things that takes time to expire(that real saves money), you'll see in three months time you'll only need few thing and you'll see the big difference.

5. if you have minimized on something, take that difference and pay off your debts, start by credit cards(interests are two high).

6. you real dont need credit card if you have, a cheque crd with an overdraft facility, just in case of emergency.

7. you real dont have to go buy something from truworths that you can get from identity(they use same designers!). Dont buy things on credit because they are on sale, that wont be sale to you anymore. Buy warm clothes in summer, they r much cheaper than in winter.

8. use lift-clubs for transport if you can, that will save a lot of money in petrol, and if it is not your car it will still asve you a lot of money, lift-clubs are much cheaper than taxis and usually convinient.

9. Learn to say no to something if you cant afford it!!!!!.

10. Give and it will be given back unto you.

spice
29 Jan 2008 05:42

Lil mam's steps are not easy but they are worth it
will definetely try

cocktail
29 Jan 2008 05:44

some of us buy things for emotional comfort,i've noticed that tell me how do i go about not doin that plz this is serious..............@lilmama

spice
29 Jan 2008 05:44

shuuuuuuuuu Amen best achiever  credit cards was the beginning of my nightmare

Sdakamiswa
29 Jan 2008 05:45

Oprah had a debt diet thing going on her show last year and i found it very practical..........

For the advise check out the link;

http://www.oprah.com/money/debtdiet/steps/debtdiet_steps_main.jhtml

Segololo
29 Jan 2008 05:46

thank you, lilmama

Nonny
29 Jan 2008 05:47

lilmama & Best Achiver, nice responses there people!!!

Mambox
29 Jan 2008 05:49

Guys it's sad but i't nice to know that i'm not the only one stuck in this situation. Mina it all started when i bought a car... i couldn't pay my accounts and i was receiving calls left right and center and it got to a stage where i lied and said the person had a wrong number. I'm now listed at itc even though i have a better paying job now and i can afford to pay my debt i can never remove my name from there until it's time for them to remove it. It is sooooo said guys i wouln't wish this one anyone i tell you...

If anyone knows a way out of this situation advise please...

Mathaz
29 Jan 2008 05:49

It took me five years to pay, three retail cards, overdraft and credit card.  It was hard but i did at the end.  To succeed you must really be committed and dedicated, it's not easy to wear same clothes over and over again, not eating out as much as you would like to and your salon turns out to be somwhere in Eloff Street but at the end it's worth it.

Nonny
29 Jan 2008 05:49

Thanks for the info Sdaka, coz mina I have a phobia, even if I owe a person R20 I find it hard to fall asleep at night!!!!

cocktail
29 Jan 2008 05:55

Best Archiver u cld nt have said betta,amen at u him/she

Tweet
29 Jan 2008 05:56

Hectic madomado! 

I'm one of those people who don't understand how people get into these kind of situations as well. I don't have any store accounts (actually neva had), have no credit card(neva had) maybe one day will have one.

I literally live on cash. I buy clothes on cash and furniture on cash. I really save up for these things. My advice would be to mininise the things you buy on credit. Your car and your house should be the only things u buy on credit. 

Best-Achiever
29 Jan 2008 05:56

@cocktail ... think of that in this way, does that ice-cream you buy when you are hurt, real heal you?. if Not, there is a problem there. why dont you get a scoop from that 5L ice-cream bucket you bought when you were doing some grocery.

Dont even think of a shopping-spree when u r hurt, just rock that gorgeous outfit you already have and stand in from of the mirror and apprciate that wonderful and fearful creature you see on than mirror, smile  ... it real does feel good and you wont even see the need to go out!!!!

lilmama
29 Jan 2008 05:57

@cocktail....dear, I don't really know what to say yeah - all what I said was based on my personal experience.
But I can suggest finding another comfort do...besides shopping what's the next thing that can make you feel better. Visiting a friend, calling your favourite person - that one person you know will lift your spirits up, watch TV, cry - anything but hitting the mall or calling Mr Delivery.

LM
29 Jan 2008 05:58

Lilmama...that's so true. I'm not big on clothes and stuff like that so I don't owe any clothes (hv bn chucking the Truworths vouchers in the dustbin). You might think that it is pathetic...but guess what...chunck of my money was spent on takeaways and Woolies...I love food..really good food....I would go to woolies wanting bread but I would come out pushing a trolley..thanx to woolies card. There was a time I didn't cook and ate takeaways only...not only did my credit card grow....I also grew a couple of inches sideways...

I had a revolving loan (similar to overdraft) and I wasn't aware that the interests were charged on a daily basis......I nearly had a heart attack when I finally got hold of the statement...people check what interest u r being charged n whether it is charged once a month or daily b'cause if u owe R10K today and they add intrst of R165 today then tomorrow the interest wil be on R10165, get my drift? 

On saving money especially when you' v got a bond is easier...there's no need to open another account(if u trust urself). Go to the bank, open an access bond link it to your salary account and put that extra money u have to your bond. In that way you are killing two birds with one stone....u will end up paying ur bond faster and saving thousands on intrsts..the beauty of it is that  u can access the money( use only extra u hv paid)  u hv been paying should you need it.

madomado
29 Jan 2008 06:00

Best Achiever - you are the "it", my broer. Hallelujah...

Nonny
29 Jan 2008 06:03

tweet I am so with u I also believe that the only thing that must be purchased on credit is ur house & ur car otherwise it's cash all the way for me, i have never had any account and credit card as well and I have been working for years, and judging from what i read here today and what i always get advised by others i plan to keep my life simple like that for a long while!!!

belz
29 Jan 2008 06:04

it's not easy to wear same clothes over and over again, not eating out as much as you would like to and your salon turns out to be somwhere in Eloff Street but at the end it's worth it.>  LOL Mathaz but you are soo right., LOL Nonny!!!!

Best-Achiever
29 Jan 2008 06:07

@madomado ... i have to learn that in a very hard way  and BTW im not a broer im a gal.

LM
29 Jan 2008 06:14

Tweet, I admire you. 

I hv cleared my debts except the two big and necessary ones....so I must strive to hv the famous 3 to 6 months salary idiling in my bond acc. 

First things first: is there anyone who know if there is a place where they sell (for half or quarter prize) outdated magazines, like those that were not bought the previous month? I spent a significant amount on magazines n  i need to do sumthing.

lilmama
29 Jan 2008 06:19

LM: get together with a couple a magazine crazy friends and share magazines.. If there are 5 of you there is no need for all of you to buy an Elle copy ea when one can buy and then share it.

I do that with books.....cause I love reading

Afrodiva
29 Jan 2008 06:21

tjo! Thanks Madomado, yazi I realised that I am not the only one in debts, phew; thanks to y'all for your input, it really helped.

I get paid on a weekly bases and come Friday! uyadlala wena! by Saturday I'd already spent @ least 20% of my hard earned moolah on Booze nogal! I am  not an alcoholic mara I don't mind buying booze for all ma Bossoms; good thing is I still afford to pay for my car and accomodation, and thanx Gawd I am not a fashionista!

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:33

best-achiever and lil'mama thanks!!! as of thursday i'm keeping a financial diary and i'm going to work hard and get out before i drown in debt!!! no more

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:33

best-achiever and lil'mama thanks!!! as of thursday i'm keeping a financial diary and i'm going to work hard and get out before i drown in debt!!! no more debonairs 4

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:33

best-achiever and lil'mama thanks!!! as of thursday i'm keeping a financial diary and i'm going to work hard and get out before i drown in debt!!! no more debonairs 4 my fav

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:33

best-achiever and lil'mama thanks!!! as of thursday i'm keeping a financial diary and i'm going to work hard and get out before i drown in debt!!! no more debonairs 4 my fav food

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:33

best-achiever and lil'mama thanks!!! as of thursday i'm keeping a financial diary and i'm going to work hard and get out before i drown in debt!!! no more debonairs 4 my fav food every

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:33

best-achiever and lil'mama thanks!!! as of thursday i'm keeping a financial diary and i'm going to work hard and get out before i drown in debt!!! no more debonairs 4 my fav food every week!!! no

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:34

best-achiever and lil'mama thanks!!! as of thursday i'm keeping a financial diary and i'm going to work hard and get out before i drown in debt!!! no more debonairs 4 my fav food every week!!! no more McD!!! this chikita is changing:)

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:34

best-achiever and lil'mama thanks!!! as of thursday i'm keeping a financial diary and i'm going to work hard and get out before i drown in debt!!! no more debonairs 4 my fav food every week!!! no more McD!!! this chikita is changing:) its

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:34

best-achiever and lil'mama thanks!!! as of thursday i'm keeping a financial diary and i'm going to work hard and get out before i drown in debt!!! no more debonairs 4 my fav food every week!!! no more McD!!! this chikita is changing:) its going to

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:34

best-achiever and lil'mama thanks!!! as of thursday i'm keeping a financial diary and i'm going to work hard and get out before i drown in debt!!! no more debonairs 4 my fav food every week!!! no more McD!!! this chikita is changing:) its going to be

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:34

best-achiever and lil'mama thanks!!! as of thursday i'm keeping a financial diary and i'm going to work hard and get out before i drown in debt!!! no more debonairs 4 my fav food every week!!! no more McD!!! this chikita is changing:) its going to be tough

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:34

best-achiever and lil'mama thanks!!! as of thursday i'm keeping a financial diary and i'm going to work hard and get out before i drown in debt!!! no more debonairs 4 my fav food every week!!! no more McD!!! this chikita is changing:) its going to be tough though!

cocktail
29 Jan 2008 06:36

azHOT,HAPPENED DEAR!

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:41

excuse my computer...

Tweet
29 Jan 2008 06:44

@ LM : You know what I also spend alot on magazines. I end up buying all the magazines you can find in a shop. One think I have realised if I spend alot on something I make sure i decrease my spending on other things.

Its like gingqi gongqo (see saw). But you on the right track cos u doing something abt it.

If usaba isikoloto, I believe u will never be in deep debt or bankrupt cos nami I'm one of those people who osaba isikoloto big time.

belz
29 Jan 2008 06:47

Yah neh azHot, this debt thing has really taken its toll on you neh?lol

azHOT
29 Jan 2008 06:53

@belz LMAO!!! izikweletu ziyahlanyisana!

madomado
29 Jan 2008 06:56

lahv u too, azhot!

myname
29 Jan 2008 07:13

eish guys dont know what 2 say maar kuzolunga one day & thanks 2 lima & bestA & LOL @ Mathaz but strue man its not nice 2 wear the same outfit usebenza maar i wil try & pay my debts kancinci kancinci. Okey my question is, if u already in Credit B, is there any hope that one day my name will be clean or i must pay 1st? some1 help mi tu

KeleFabulous
29 Jan 2008 07:18

i am deefinately taking notes!

Best-Achiever
29 Jan 2008 07:24

@myname ... dear start paying you debt and keep all the slips as proof, once you have settled your debts, phone credit b,  or go to those creditors who put you to creditB, they'll definately take you off. keep your slips just  in case they need proof. Your name will be clean again and you can start a nu chapter of your debt-free life.

tizoz
29 Jan 2008 07:33

I feel you., I did what Trevor advised us to do take your bonus and pay off all ure debts! That's wot I did and thank gaad I did that, Now I can re-arrange my life in peace not worrying about some lawyers trying to get every cent out of you. That thing is torture. Sure I was broke in Dec but for the first time in years I received my salary and I smiled cause at least I can now think about saving of which yeah I did! now I am starting to have money that I can put away but I cant touch even if I am superbroke. now that is the life of someone who was once debt ridded worse than Mandoza. eish that reminds me I didnt pay my licence eish mara why must I pay for dstv and then sabc I dont know!

myname
29 Jan 2008 08:14

thank you bestA u such a darling standwa sam

awelani
29 Jan 2008 08:19

U guys are really helpful, I'm one of those people who never believed in having a credit card until Edgars started calling two times a day every second coz I missed a payment, I decided to get a cr card to pay them (edgars) off and I did, then I started misusing the cr card buying unnecessary things, ryt now I'm the cr card more than my salary and I havent used it months, i pay them what I can and when I'm done paying them(dont know when, i need a second job), NO MORE CR CARD FOR ME, NO MORE.....ngi zwile tjo!  cash only.

Tshd21
29 Jan 2008 08:28

Took notes and definetely gonna use them,  thanx y'all!!!!!

madomado
29 Jan 2008 08:34

Awelani.. I was trapped by the same thing... Edgars.. Mna, ke... afetr i got the credit cards to pay off edgars and truworths, I oversent on the credit card.. and went back for more credit at these stores. Now i have nt been able to use any of the three in seven months.... And its still going on. The way i foresee things, the only way i'll be able to pay these is if my salary is doubled.

belz
29 Jan 2008 08:46

Yah neh, life is tough ng'yaktshela, im sure some  rich bloggers are just asking themselves what the hell we're on about.

Nonny
29 Jan 2008 08:57

Bye belz I'm outta here ngiyadoja my friend!!!

LM
29 Jan 2008 09:16

Beltz, hi hi hi hi, rich bloggers neh! 

I think another thing we do is that we rely on our salaries only, which sometimes is not enough considering how expensive just the basic stuff is. We need to look beyond our 8-5 jobs. I hv got a very close friend of mine who's got an eye for business or to make money. She works for a soft drink bottler and get paid very well, she is a mashonisa at work (it is a bit illegal I know), she's got a cell c  container. She told me that she hasn't touched her salary in a long time as a result she's got three properties now. Two paid for and rented out. She didn't hv a car b4 and recently bought a R20K car from Swaziland bcause she only wanted transport......I admire her a lot....b'cause I know that if it was me I would hv easily bought that A3 sportback faster than you can say A3.

If  u stay elokshini, go around and see what u can do.(there's a huge market for most things)...enquire about amalocal taxis for example...especially if they use private cars....

 

Beyonce
29 Jan 2008 11:35

It is possible to live debt free, seriously. 
Follow my GOOD(Get Out Of Debt) plan:- Live within your means
                                                                        -Dont spend more than you earn
                                                                       

faraimagic
29 Jan 2008 11:40

nyani?

Toodecent
30 Jan 2008 00:18

Ahahahahaha... this is so funny but true. Ok one thing I have told myself is that..." I will never have a credit card" after seeing what people goes through.. it aint for me.
Wise advise there Dr Beyonce....!

libra
30 Jan 2008 07:13

money,money,money.
buy for cash! that is the solution.
i am sure u aware that if u buy an item on credit  u end up paying double - the solution save up that money for the item u need until u have enough-it just a great feeling working in store buying a R2000.00 plus item for cash.

draw up a budget book and account for each spending - add a column for emergencies, entertainment,whatever your monthly requirements are-even if it is not sometimes possible to stick to it but it guides well and you keep track of your spendings throughout the month.

have a list of all the items you need to buy - draw up a plan to save for them and then scratch them out after getting them- a year down the line u will b surprised at how many things u got for cash.

it needs disclipine-bring lunch to work,be wise with your wardrobe,mix match ur clothes then u wont have to buy new clothes each month,save save save.


belz
30 Jan 2008 07:15

I just got an sms from the bank telling me i've been paid, i must say im feeling dizzy. jsut had to come here to make sure im all set for the debt free life, impilo inzima strue!

madomado
30 Jan 2008 07:22

@belz

I'm happy for you, girlfriend. All the best.

I got the same sms this morning, and it was followed by a million others telling me my money is leaving my bank account. I havent even been to the atm. Will go on Saturday to draw that last R50.

Use it responsibly. Go over Best-Achiever's, lilmama's and veryone else's advises all over again. Its too late for me. Maybe next month.

123kid
30 Jan 2008 08:22

This is scary and it sets on thinking on measures to curb this crisis. This goes on to show how financial illeterate people are. Schools, colleges and universities do not  teach students money management skills. The majority of the working class is drowning in debt. As a result this is bad for the economy because most people are living on the poverty door. My advice is simple and straight forward although tough 'be disciplined'. Google Kim Kiyosaki for a full advice on getting out of debt.
I agree with some comments above:
- stop creating more debt
- use lift club or taxi if you are office bound
- stick the budget

123kid
30 Jan 2008 08:36

By the way I also do DSTV installations in and around Jozi at affordable prices. Benefits you wont have to go movies, stadiums, theatres anymore, you will save all that money.
Give me a call at: 0835201540 for more information.

Nonny
01 Feb 2008 05:27

Thanks LM for the link!!!

Amaka
08 Feb 2008 01:23

123 kid us such a vulture.

carino
27 Jun 2008 06:49

yha, nhe....


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The new president of the Zepeda Group has 48 hours to fix things.


New on TV today: Monday 6 May 2024

e.tv's new novela Kelders van Geheime begins as Comedy Central gets Out of Order.


New on TV today: Sunday 5 May 2024

The SA Sport Awards air live on SABC1 and two reality shows return to Mzansi Magic.


New on TV today: Saturday 4 May 2024

Call the Bailiffs begins on CBS Reality and Star Wars: Tales of the Empire drops on Disney+.


New! Kelders van Geheime Teasers - May 2024

Nothing like a Will to bring a family together. NOT. Soebatskloof farm is a ticking time bomb on e.tv's new 18h00 local show.


Broken Bonds Teasers - May 2024

Watch out Shubhra! The party's dangerous. Samaira's going to offer you a spiked drink.


Annekan' Die Swa' Kry 3 Teasers - May 2024

Season 3 premiere! Have you seen Omer's cringey behaviour? He's living the high life and letting his new wealth go to his head.


New on TV today: Friday 3 May 2024

VIA sings with Klanke van my Hart and the final chapter of Surviving R. Kelly begins on eReality.

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