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Moving On, Its Good and Its Bad

Written by Cheesa from the blog Cheesa Chat on 03 Mar 2011
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Moving on is a good thing and it can be a bad thing. In music business we have seen many group members decide to split and take the route of being a solo artists, some artists move from their original stables to join other stables and some artists change producers.

In most cases the main reason for this moving on always has to do with money then follows everything else. I have noticed that even though this moving on might be a good thing for the artist but it tends to be a bad thing for their music.

Most of the time people who have moved from where they were producing their music before or stop working with those they were working with before has put a strain in their music career. But to some artists moving on proves to be a good thing because they end up doing well in their music and get to be more recognised.

As music lovers we don’t always get the real reason as to why a certain artist has decided to stop working with the people he/she was working with before. We always hear unclear stories. Soon after people hear that a certain artist has moved on from their original stable to join another company, people start predicting the future of that artist. So let’s take a look at artists who moved on but after their music career suffered and those who prospered.

Moving on was bad

Mandoza 

This dude was a member of a group called Chiskop. They were successful as a group and working with producer Gabby Le Roux. Mandoza decided in the 90s that he was ready to go solo. He did his first solo album that was produced by Gabby Le Roux, which had a hit song Uzoyithola Kanjani. 

Soon after that he made his next album that has a classic hit Nkalakatha. He made other good albums and won many awards. A few years later Mandoza stopped working with Gabby Le Roux and worked with other producers. His music hasn’t been doing well. He is now trying to claim his spot in the music biz.

Lesego 

He shot to fame with his hit song Africa in which he featured Jaziel Brothers who were also his producers. He won a Metro FM award for Best New Comer in 2008. What made him and Jaziel Brothers part ways was because of something to do with money.

Zola 

He was with Ghetto Ruff since he started in the music biz and he was doing very well. He worked with different producers and won many awards. He opened his own label Guluva entertainment. Last year he released an album called Impepho that many praised as one of his best albums. He even got nominated for Best Kwaito award in Metro FM awards but he didn’t win it. Bad publicity also played a part in his music suffering.

Siphokazi 

This shy lady made noise with her hit track Amacala which was on her first album. She was working with Native Rhythms that is owned by Sipho Sithole. Siphokazi did very well at her first album. She won many awards and was the most talked about female artist at that time. Now Siphokazi is no longer with Native Rhythms.

I heard her explaining on Afro Café why she left Native Rhythms. She said she moved from there because the producers wanted her to do the kind of music she doesn’t want to do, which has fluencies of Maskandi even though she wants to do Soul/Jazz music. I must say I didn’t feel the songs she was singing on Afro Cafe they were really different from the music in her first album like the song Amacala.


Brown Dash 

He moved from TS records after he had disagreements with the owners of TS records about his contract. He moved to Wheel of Steel productions that is owned by Dj Cleo. I was happy with his move. He and Dj Cleo were promising to come up with something hot but before they could even finish the album they had disagreements which led to them breaking it off. 

I heard Brown Dash explaining why he left Dj Cleo’s company saying it was because Dj Cleo wanted him to bad mouth TS records which is something he was not comfortable with. Dj Cleo on the other hand said he just couldn’t t work with lazy people who are busy with drugs. We can now only imagine the hits that Dj Cleo and Brown Dash were going to produce together.

Pitch Black Afro 

He made noise with his hit single Pitch Black Afro which was followed by Tofo Tofo. He became big on his first album and was nominated for awards he even won Best Hip Hop award. He was also under Dj Cleo’s Wheel of Steel productions. 

After a while problems began between him and Dj Cleo and he ended up moving on. The Pitch Black Afro album was the first and last album he did with Dj Cleo. Now he has vanished. I hear he is trying to resurrect his career. I think if he can work things out with Dj Cleo he might be back in the game strong.

Moving on was good

Lira 


Do I need to explain? Everyone knows Lira did her self and many South Africans a favour by moving from 999 music to join the company she is with now. This lady has been producing hits ever since she left 999 music. Lira has been winning awards left, right and centre. 

She is performing everywhere nationally and internationally. I think mixing business with pleasure is working very well for her because her producer who is now her hubby understands her style of music. She now has a new album titled Returning to Love and it's promising to be one of her best albums.

Khuli Chana 

He was a member of the Motswako group Morafe. They were also doing well with their music in the Motswako style Hip Hop. Now Khuli Chana decided to go solo and he is doing well for himself. His recent album Motswako Originator brought a lot of recognition for him. He was even nominated for Best Hip Hop at the Metro FM awards that many believed he was going take it.

Professa 

He is one of the first people to introduce Durban Kwaito music with his group mate Tzozo. They did well as a duo but now they seem to have parted ways as Professa now has his hot solo album, University of Kalawa that is filled with hits. 

He is one of the few artists if not only who has three songs in the play list of every radio station playing at the moment. These songs are Jazebel, Imoto and Lento are blazing the airwaves and many believe he is going to be scooping those awards this year come SAMA time.

Big Nuzz 

They also made a good move by joining Dj Tira’s Afrotainment. Since they’ve been there they’ve been producing nothing but hits all the way. They are now the biggest group in the country. They haven’t disappointed as yet and we hope they won’t. 

Before they joined Dj Tira’s Afrotainment, they were signed under the late Patrick “Kid” Mokoena’s stable called Why Not Entertainment. They are now house hold names since their move to Afrotainment. They have three SAMAs in their bag.

Dj Kent 

He was part of the duo group Kentphonik that included him and Euphonik. They broke up and began their solo careers. Dj Kent has been making waves as a solo artist. He won a SAMA for Best Compilation for his first solo album. Since then he has been a Dj to be reckon with. 

He has been producing hits not only for himself but for other artists like Relo. He recently won two Metro FM awards For Best Collaboration and Hit single of the year for Lets Falls in Love. He is also making waves on 5FM with his ultimix every Fridays at 18:00. I heard they are working on something together with Euphonik as Kentphonik. 


This shows the good and bad of moving on for an artist. I think maybe an artist needs to plan when he or she has decided to move from the stable he/she was working with. 

Instead of just packing their stuff immediately when something they don’t like happens. Because most of the time you will find that the artist decided to move on without checking what’s good and bad by moving to another stable and just sign with any stable that seems interested in them. 

Sometimes I always think they do this to spite their previous bosses. I have noticed that an artist would leave his/her stable this week then next week you read they have signed with a new stable and wonder did this person took time to think and plan before doing all this. 

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30 Comments

makisto
03 Mar 2011 09:35

Cool article you have here chomi, now lemme read. And yipee, I'm firs = I just wanted to do it also

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Cande
03 Mar 2011 09:37

lol, let me read

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liya2010
03 Mar 2011 09:49

Lira realy made a great move she's on fire, hayke spokazi ndithe nqa ungasaqomolozi nje i had no idea that u changed companies uzibulele

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makisto
03 Mar 2011 09:53

He is now trying to claim his spot in the music biz.
Shame I like Mandoza's music from a distance but I'm not I will buy it because it doesn't speak to me lol

What made him and Jaziel Brothers part ways was because of something to do with money.
Tjo!

Bad publicity also played a part in his music suffering. 
This is new year. I think he must go to rehab of violence or ask the Correctional Services to rehabilitate him shem. But I think it's high time he does something to reclaim his position in the industry.

This shy lady made noise with her hit track Amacala which was on her first album.
kwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I heard Brown Dash explaining why he left Dj Cleo’s company saying it was because Dj Cleo wanted him to bad mouth TS records which is something he was not comfortable with.
I don't buy this! My theory is since he and Dj Cleo parted ways, he wanted TS Records to take him back since he "refused to badmouth them".

This lady has been producing hits ever since she left 999 music. Lira has been winning awards left, right and centre.
999 seems like Zimbabwe to me shem

He was even nominated for Best Hip Hop at the Metro FM awards that many believed he was going take it. 
I didn't know he was that big, maybe it's because I'm not a motswako person lol. Nomination is as good as winning, they claim.

they were signed under the late Patrick “Kid” Mokoena
Why isn't he known?

I have noticed that an artist would leave his/her stable this week then next week you read they have signed with a new stable and wonder did this person took time to think and plan before doing all this. 
This is also true but my version is as much as they are all bigger now, 10 years down the line even Lira will fade into obscurity. I am of the opinion that, artists should also be interested in the business side of things that when a new generation of music buyers and a new generation of singers emerge, they at least have something to fall back on. 

They will not sell hits forever. i.e Hugh Masekela is unquestionaly a great artists, according to me, but I will not buy his music everytime he releases an album because his music doesn't speak to me. Dropping albums is not a lifetime career. I think many can learn from Yvonne Chaka Chaka. Her music is boring these days to be quite frank but her humanitarian work is earning her accoldaes. She is using her influence to her advantages and doing charity work and that works for her. So, all in all I am saying singing is not a sustainable lifetime career.

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makisto
03 Mar 2011 09:55

hayke spokazi ndithe nqa ungasaqomolozi nje i had no idea that u changed companies uzibulele
Liya2010
, you will be responsible for my getting fired for loling at this.

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Cheesa
03 Mar 2011 10:13

I am of the opinion that, artists should also be interested in the business side of things that when a new generation of music buyers and a new generation of singers emerge, they at least have something to fall back on. 

True Makisto but do you think all these companies will make money. I've heard these artists saying  they have thier own comapnies and they've signed so and so that we have never seen or hear thier music. Like Lvovo, Msawawa, Kabelo, Ntando, Zola, etc but not all of them are out there like abo Afrotainment. Do you think all these new companies will be successful? 

I dont think just because you started by singing or being an artist so whats next you should have your own company because not everyone has a skill of making that company work. This starting your own company thing might be a loss to the artist. I think they should also find other ways of making money besides being only in the music business. 

hayke spokazi ndithe nqa ungasaqomolozi nje LOL

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makisto
03 Mar 2011 10:28

I think they should also find other ways of making money besides being only in the music business.
True Cheesa, I think I wanted to say that but I didn't know how to put it.

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Holiday
03 Mar 2011 10:34

Nice article...o lebetse Rythem Elements ba re ba ngapana ko Mmakau. 

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Cande
03 Mar 2011 10:39

LOL Rhythmic elements is killing me, like WTH?? anyway i cant wait for the samas to see proffessor walk away with a lot of awards.. *cues ijimaphi le weight'

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sarocks
03 Mar 2011 10:46

Haaaaai Makisto You're so GAY and you don't even like boys *singing*. Whts with abo Chomi now?

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Cheesa
03 Mar 2011 10:50

LOL Rhythmic elements is killing me, like WTH?? Heeey Cande you know I forgot Rhythmic Elements and that guy Makenzie is also doing a solo album TJO! I wonder what really happened. They were also a hit and now??? I dont feel that Mr Uptight song no. 

Bathong Sarocks!

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Cande
03 Mar 2011 10:51

as for LEsego?? booze *smh*

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ntoko
03 Mar 2011 11:05

Good one Cheesa thanx for updating us regarding our musicians ,

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makisto
03 Mar 2011 11:11

Haaaaai Makisto You're so GAY and you don't even like boys *singing*. Whts with abo Chomi now?
Cheesa if my choma lol Sarocks. Hehehehehe Sarocks, your opinionis your constitutional right lol :)

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Tazteeq
03 Mar 2011 12:34

3 years back for a minute i thought Zola was the ish! he just disappeard into thin air...

I cant believe i once mobbed Brown dash at a campus bash! i think if he saw me now, i'd be the one running away from his mobbing

wait, who is Pitch Black Afro again? LOL...

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PruLuv
03 Mar 2011 13:01

Nice article Cheesa.

This is what I think:
Ntando's move from TS records to Bon Fire was not a good move.
Also Pro's move from Ghetto Ruff to TS records was not a good move.

Ironic, I guess.

Another irony:

Brown Dash shouldn't go back to Dj Cleo and should rather go back to TS Records.
Then Bricks must leave TS Records and go back to DJ Cleo.

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Cheesa
03 Mar 2011 14:17

cant believe i once mobbed Brown dash at a campus bash! i think if he saw me now, i'd be the one running away from his mobbing LOL Brown Dash was big during his days I understand you, abo Mthunzi we Langa were hits. 

Pruluv I think Ntando's move from TS was bad more on the marketing side and publicity side because now he is not as popular as he was when he was with TS records. His bosses at TS made sure that his name was out as well as Brown Dash. 

You remember how many times they would appear on LIVE in a month and how times you will hear them announcing thier gigs. On his music he is not bad for me. As I said right there is a lack of publicity and marketing, like air play. He doesn't get it like before. In his recent album he worked with his old producer Robby Malinga and he won an award. 

Eish about PRO at first I thought his move to TS was a good move for him but now I am not so sure. There is just something happening there as we heard there's some beef rumours between him and  the owners mhmm...but he dismissed the beef rumours on LIVE. 

But Pru Dj Cleo is best as a Kwaito producer I think Brown Dash's first album was produced by him. At TS I regard them as good with publicity and gigs for an artist. 

I agree with you Brickz should go back to Dj Cleo I would be happy. 

Cool Ntoko

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monchooza
03 Mar 2011 14:34

i could be wrong here but i think Lira should sing Gospel< as soon as she sees ukuthi the songs she sings now dont do it for us anymore.

i say this because Lira has beautiful music(band included ngoba nje ayi 1 shem azkhiphi) ..but the truth is most of her songs sound exactly the same.

as for Cleo i really think there is something he is doing to his artist why do they levae him bonke? does he even have an artist ku Wheel of steel right now?

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monchooza
03 Mar 2011 14:41

i could be wrong here but i think Lira should sing Gospel< as soon as she sees ukuthi the songs she sings now dont do it for us anymore.

i say this because Lira has beautiful music(band included ngoba nje ayi 1 shem azkhiphi) ..but the truth is most of her songs sound exactly the same.

as for Cleo i really think there is something he is doing to his artist why do they levae him bonke? does he even have an artist ku Wheel of steel right now?

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Cande
03 Mar 2011 14:51

LOL @ Lira singing gospel

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babye
03 Mar 2011 15:16

@ Monchooza o ntseetse amfoko ganong. i was listening to Lira's latest album it sounds exactly the same as the previous on, same beats, notes. i was lucky that i didnt buy - thanks to musica for giving us the opportunity to listen to songs before buying them. I am now doubting her music abilities. 

Cheesa - you forgot Nonhlahla from Mafikizolo. the break from Mafikizolo and the move to hubby's studio was the wrong. 

theo - the break from mafikizolo and move to produce his own music good - even though he is also seeming to sound the same

Nthando - his change in stables also bad move

problem with artists is that they think that when they are played all over radios that they are rich and have money. they forget that there is marketing, production and stage organising for preparation of a performance. not forgeting securities etc

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myname
03 Mar 2011 16:10

Mchisana its late and im tired and

Ummam'ushiye iskiya e next door, ndizobuya ngomso

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Cheesa
03 Mar 2011 16:19

..but the truth is most of her songs sound exactly the same.  Yeah everyone is saying that about her new album. I also had the same view when I heard the first single Phakade maybe she thought thats what her fans like so she must stick to it.  As for Lira doing gospel LOL I can only imagine.

Yah babye Nhlanhla also didnt do well shem even though she even record a DVD. I just thought they were waisting money coz I didnt think it was going to sell anyway. 

Her first album was good and I liked. It was not different from the kind of music that Mafikizolo does. The second one she wanted to experiment alot which pushed away some of us away who liked the first album. 

And the move to TS ayi didnt do her that good. I think if she had done her solo album with the producers at Kalawa she would have been the best. I just hope they will finally get together with Theo as Mafikizolo.

Another problem baby e with artists is thinking just because the group is doing well or I'm the more shining one in the group I must now go solo. It doesn't always work for eveyone.

I am still holding my thumbs for Mampintsha of Big Nuz to not do that as yet. He must just enjoy being with the group. I know the hype around him might make him think of going solo which might also kill the group.

I still think Theo is doing good. I like his Greatful album.

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Cheesa
03 Mar 2011 16:31

deathby mchisana myname lol

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Green.arrow
04 Mar 2011 08:08

I like DJ Cleo..but its a bit supicious gore everyone whoever worked with him has fought with him. Is hea bad producer/employer? OR is he so good and has high demans of his musicians that they cant handle it, especially since most of those who left were associated with drugs at some point??

 Untill i get a clear answer tho..im still #TeamCleo...lol...

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babye
04 Mar 2011 08:21

the other person is RJ Benjamin he is so sounding the same too. 

TKZee the break was awful for Tokollo and bravo for Dubuladubula tl tltl

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Cheesa
04 Mar 2011 14:35

About Dj Cleo nam I have always wondered why all his artists leave him even Dj What What left Wheel of Steel. I think he is a bit arrogant but he said he is not in an interview. I think since he knows that he is good and that maybe those guys rely on him to make those hits he treats them like children than adults. 

On the other hand I have also heard him saying his side of the story and he is convincing and you might think otherwise when you hear him explain this thing about artists not sticking around for a long time in his stable. 

About RJ Benjamin, apparently he has stopped being a performing artist. In other words he resigned. But baby e Kabelo is not doing well now like he used too. What I've noticed now is that he gets featured alot in other people's songs and he's more busy with his charities.

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Segololo
05 Mar 2011 16:40

Hello bloggers... Music; food for the soul...

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Segololo
05 Mar 2011 16:40

Hello bloggers... Music; food for the soul...

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MAGNET2DISASTER
07 Mar 2011 08:23

@cheesa,i agree with you.something is up with cleo,batho ba nna ba mo tlogela fela

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