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3rd Degree Blows The Lid Off Caster Fiasco

Written by TVSA Team from the blog 3rd Degree on 21 Sep 2009
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Coming up on Tuesday's 3rd Degree:

Episode Title: 3rd Degree Blows The Lid Off The Caster Semenya Fiasco
Broadcast date: 22 September 2009

For weeks Athletics South Africa President Leonard Chuene denied that gender tests were done on Caster Semenya, the 800m world champion.

3rd Degree interviews former national team coach, Wilfred Daniels who first revealed that some sex tests did indeed take place in South Africa before Berlin and that ASA were advised not to let Semenya run.

3rd Degree looks at all the events that have unfolded and asks: has an 18-year-old woman been sacrificed in pursuit of a gold medal?



3rd Degree is on e.tv on Tuesdays at 21h30.



36 Comments

Mathaz
21 Sep 2009 12:39

Cant wait for this but Chuene should be fired, he is such a liar and he still justifies his lies, what ASA has done to Caster is inexcusable and the GM of ASA should be fired as well.  Hope we have all learned a lesson that not everything is about race.  


Holiday
21 Sep 2009 12:44

Will this thing of Castor ever end?

DJ Why why
21 Sep 2009 13:27

Eish poor child, she is only 18 and have the rest of her life infront o her, Who will be shelaring her now, nxa

Cande
21 Sep 2009 13:32

Chuene needs to go, how can he lie to us like that?? He could have saved the girl the pain & embarassment

J-Girl
21 Sep 2009 13:49

This is a sad story really...

Cnglemother
21 Sep 2009 20:01

What bases was Chuene hired on?being a comrade?what a clueless drama queen.the day he said "we look where we look" playing ignorant i wanted to hide jerre!

Cnglemother
21 Sep 2009 20:25

Meant "basis"

Cnglemother
22 Sep 2009 22:35

What a disastrous interview!eTV's Tumalo Mohlaodi was so embarrassed by the stupidity of this man.doubt he wrote anything down his face was "like Nigga stop it now!.so Caster was in a way aware that something was wrong but her management failed to explain the results in a way that would make sense to her.damn!that ex coach left no stone unturned exposing alles.he must 4get bout being ever hired on comrademanship.

majozi0209
23 Sep 2009 09:38

I just watched the show on Tuesday the 22rd.  What Mr Chuene was saying doesn't make sense.  He knew from the onset that tests were done on poor Caster and did not take the medical report as a serious matter.  For him not to tell Caster what the test were for before they leave for the competitions was uncalled for.  Evedence was show by the dedicated and hard working Debra and he denied it.  For him to apologise and tell lies again does not show any remorce at all.  Heads will roll and He must encounter for everything.

Shimane

GML
23 Sep 2009 09:48

He is the one who ordered for those tests to be done. When the Doctor advises him to withdraw Caster he all of sudden wants it on paper.

He publicly denied the whole thing. Saying he didnt know who ordered caster to go for tests. Then he said teh doctor didnt say anything to him then.

all of a sudden he lied to protect Caster. From what exactly? He said he didnt get any communication from the iaaf questioning caster's gender. Until Debra said what about the  email she has in her hand.

He has never stopped lying this stupid man.

he should be shot straight in the head for being so selfish.

Apparently Caster was told that she will be going for Doping tests then then when she got there they took pictures of her private parts.

how disgusting is that? NXA

Cody
23 Sep 2009 10:03

jo GML didn't watch it sho they said to her they were going to do Dope tests?, how on earth did they get to take pictures of her private parts. le yena she cant be that naive, i mean, dope test mo kukung? hai! she should have asked them, why the kuk nou?

Lex
23 Sep 2009 10:10

LOL @ Cody

Phumzile Progress
23 Sep 2009 10:54

Its a digrace to see how we South Africans humiliate one another. The girl and her family is humiliated and belittled by our media and ASA. Wher on earth did you heard of a new born girl be examined to find out whether she is a girl or a boy? Are we above God? D o doctors know how to create a human being? They are ones to help Mrs Semenya to give birth to the same lovely girl and confirmed about her gender, secondly in most cases these doctors guess when examining a person, they also do mistakes. Please lets stop destroying the poor girl and her family, if you want to know or ask questions let the questions be directed to God the creater.

Thank you
L.S. Kapari. 

HARAMBE24
23 Sep 2009 10:57

i watched the show too and this time Debra kept her bra on and did not rant like a cow...the team did good with the investigation...loved it, mara shem poor Caster - i can only emagine what is going through her head...

TheLady
23 Sep 2009 11:03

Mr Chuene is a very bad actor bandla...he kills me when he raises his finger engathi umshumayeli waseWeseli.

BigMama
23 Sep 2009 11:04

LMBAO @PP....l would love to hear what God will say re to this matter.

GML
23 Sep 2009 11:08

What infuriated me was when he said the media must show him someone that hasnt lied to protect someone.

Hoe the *bleep!* can you say that? how did he protect her? by exposing her to the world? How does that man look at his kids in the face and explain to them his actions. What if it was child that was so humiliated? would he be as forgiving as he wants SA to be?

BigMama
23 Sep 2009 11:13

Just cool down everyone, we should stop crying over split milk. There is nothing we can do to change what happened. Its either Chuene gets fired or whatever Caster is humiliated period, and it will live with her till kingdom come. Stop boiling over something you will never have control of. Its to let to turn back the clock now.

Lex
23 Sep 2009 11:17

BigMama o right,even if Chuene gets fired,the damage to Caster will remain.

Tash 1
23 Sep 2009 11:18

@BigMama, well said. We shld  take a chill pill qha. Chuene u r a disgrace.

vestacor
23 Sep 2009 11:33

I would like to know which category does Caster belong cause if is a lesbian then she is a woman iregardless of whether she has man hormones
Her birth documents indicate that is a she thats from the hospital so why do you make it difficult for her

It seems as if lesbians and gays have no place in the world  thats Semenya was treated. I think now is the time to tell the gays and the lesbian how you feel about ,they must know that they dont have a place in sports,and in parliament,but you should that they were created by God

For Leornad i can not blame him cause him Caster is a girl and i support him,that was just politics. If the IAA suspected she was what ever they should have done the test b4 the race now that she leading kilos away from other atheletes they started complaining,so that is why Leornad did not bother to tell them about test  he knew that Caster is a girl

From Prince

Tash 1
23 Sep 2009 11:45

@Cheesa, Guys what about the fact that Caster wanted to run even when Chuene asked her not to run at first before he changed his mind?

It's a lie, she ddn't insist on wanting to run, u stl can't copy tht Chuene is a big LIAR!!! Hez lost ma trust. F.... him 4 cozing pain 2 caster, her family n' friends.

calamity
23 Sep 2009 12:29

@ vestacor

Her sexual orientation is not at question here, I think you are confusing the issues, there is gender and there is sexual orientation. According to media reports, she is a hermaphrodite, not a lesbian. As for you supporting Chuene, I am astounded, this humiliation would never have happened if he just pulled Caster out of the race. No matter how you look at it, Chuene is to blame for this whole debacle. From your statements it seems as if someone didn't watch 3rd Degree last nite. 
Team SA's doctor apparently told him that the results are in and he told him that it doesn't look good for Caster, Chuene decided to pull her from the race but later decided otherwise (after he spoke to an unknown politician). He only wanted a medal, and he got it but at what price?

TheLady
23 Sep 2009 12:37

LOL @ vestacor...you are soo lost. Sorry but I had to laugh, I have this picture of someone being all serious and arguing their point 'Caster is a lesbian, but that doesn't mean she's not a girl' buhwahahahaha

"I would like to know which category does Caster belong"
Apparently she's intersexed...testes inside, kuku outside.

Apologies for laughing at you

BigMama
23 Sep 2009 12:41

@TheLady...no need to apologise, l was also laughing at Prince...

GML
23 Sep 2009 12:52

Prince was clearly living in a cave somewhere.

Chuene is to blame becuase the Iaaf contacted them (ASA) questioning her gender. He had the advice of a medical specialist to withdraw Caster he chose not to. So he is to be fully blamed for this thing.

The IAAF are only to blame for not having done tests themselves before the race. But then again ASA said they did the tests and nothing was wrong. Again ASA comes into the picture. Chuene more especially.

Best-Achiever
23 Sep 2009 13:00

i wish all this Caster issue can be put to rest and let the poor child pick the pieces and live her life... No one derseve this!

Lex
23 Sep 2009 13:18

I concur with you BA,ke sono man,the poor child has been through enough already.

khetelo
23 Sep 2009 13:54

YHO HAY MZANTSI, it 's 100 000% unfair.NO ONE HAS ANY RIGHT TO TO TELL CASTER WHAT TO DO. AND OTHER  THAN THAT NO ONE WOULD HAVE GIVEN CASTOR THAT GOLD SHE GOT BY HERSELF.
And people really the law is just not doing its job. Who in the paliarment can allow his own child to be humiliated the way Castor has been.
To DEBORA PATTA 's case she musn't do it (presentation) the way she's doing it now because it;'s so unfair. She's like she's no woman or human being.


The doctors knows that u cant say some thing that is not written down ,MR chuene was wright u cant say something with out a proof,those are the regulations and norms of medicine, i know  i'm a nurse and working with doctors.LEAVE THE GUY ALONE!!!!!!!!!! Every father would have done what MR CHUENE did.

THE PRESS MUST LEAVE THE POOR GIRL ALONE, because that's how her life is coming along. GOD STRAIGHT TO GOD PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE A COMPLAINT ABOUT SEMENYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lex
23 Sep 2009 14:02

kheti....

monchooza
23 Sep 2009 14:25

so guys is it confirmed that caster is really hamophro what what??????????

Floh
24 Sep 2009 08:22

I hope the politician is NOT JULIAS...........

So , sportwise, what is Caster going to do? 

 I believe she is too strong for some women and I don't think she can compete with BOLT, that man can leave your black ass behind and that will confirm he is a man of which she is not.

That is career ending! How did Deborah got the emails, isn't it confidential, she also must be blamed cause it looks like she is enjoying this.

baby e
24 Sep 2009 09:17

i remember very clearly when this started and i wrote mo tvsa

- Pretoria University is a very well respected varsity with the best training facilities in SA and i wrote that there was no way someone wont be interested in testing CASTER because Chuene was denying that no tests were performed. 

I hope Caster is getting counselling for all this
its a pity how the world is looking at us no......
shame Chuene shame on you and your team 
Caster baby - please take care and lift your hand up baby

care2love
29 Sep 2009 15:03

she won a gold medal...am proud of her n so is er1.
luks dnt mean *bleep!*...alota men luk lyk women..n vice versa. leave d gal alone

care2love
29 Sep 2009 15:04

now i know how cruel sum pple are...n yeah khetelo,they must ask GOD

Tafenit
29 Sep 2009 17:11

@floh, really what is the poor gal going to do now. coz that's how she made her mom happy.

The judge who's our creator,i.e God, made no mistake by creating Caster to be a girl. She may not jave the features of a woman but still she's a woman. Xa engunongayindoda umntwana wabantu nithi makathini. Ufana notatakhe ayizujika loo nto.

South Africa is this about Caster or there's still some hot ashes of apartheid remainig behind.And also why is it always a problem when a black skinned person prospers.

I'm a nurse, i do what's prescribed by the Dr. and signed with the percal no. in. I can't just do whatever i'm told verbally, it must be written down.My point is why is it expected of Mr. Chuene to do something to do something tha't verbally discussed. It was so wise not to agree with the matter and now the'y are exposing it as if Chuene is the bad guy whilst not.

UDebora Patta must drop the attitude,someone plz must teach her on where to draw the line when speaking to an african man.She's so full of herself  nxa!!!! Am sure she's so happy so thrilled that it's the black person who's in the bad publicity.That's not to be asked, you can read it on her face!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

You've got my support Caster, bring more medals sisi. HUNTSHUUUUUUU!!!!!!!

There's a say that says 'VUKUZENZELE'  and Caster did so, and people have a problem with it????  OOOHHH   PPPLLLZZZ
 


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