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The TVSA Interview: Hakeem Kae-Kazeem

Written by TVSA Team from the blog Interviews on 09 Jun 2009
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In Season 1 it was Nina Myers (played by Sarah Clarke):

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In Season 2, it was Peter Kingsley (played by Tobin Bell):

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In Season 3, it was the Salazar brothers (played by Joaquim de Almeida and Vincent Laresca):

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In Season 4, it was Habib Marwan (played by South African actor Arnold Vosloo):

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In Season 5, it was Charles Logan (played by Gregory Itzin):

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In Season 6, it was Phillip Bauer (played by James Cromwell):

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... and in the new 7th Season the main villain is ...

*the 24 countdown clock* ...



Colonel Iké Dubaku, played by South African actor and international man of mystery Hakeem Kae-Kazeem: ...

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Hakeem made his 24 debut last week (3 June) on M-Net Action in the season preview flik Redemption and returns to do very villainous things in Season 7, which premieres tonight at 19h00.

To get into the kickbutt groove of it I caught up with him in Los Angeles to scoop about it all (he was there, I was here - we teleported).

Here's what he had to say:

An actor's dream: "The role is yours."

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Tashi: How did it happen that you came to play Colonel Dubaku?
Hakeem: When I came to America, just before I came, somebody showed me the show. I’d never seen 24 and somebody said, “Watch this show,” I watched and got hooked, didn’t move for a whole weekend, it was brilliant.

Then when I came to America, I’d done something in South Africa for a Canadian production company and the director and I kept in touch so when I said was going to the US he said “Come and see me on the set of my new TV show,” and I didn’t know it was 24.

I went on set, looked around, spent the day, he introduced me to the casting directors at the end - then I left. A couple of weeks later they called me in to audition and I didn’t get the part.

They called me in about three or four times after that and I didn’t get anything and then they called me in and sort of offered me a role - with the proviso that they weren’t sure of the script and that the character might have been cut.

A few weeks later they called and said “Ah the character’s been written out,” and then two weeks after that they phoned and said “There’s this character Colonel Dubaku,” and offered him to me - so it was out of the blue, but not out of the blue.

Action highlights

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Tashi: What would you say your best moment was out of filming both the movie and the film?
Hakeem: There were two best moments: the first was my first day on set and what a show. Being on the set that first day was both fantastic and also very, very intimidating and scary.

Then, when we went to film Redemption in South Africa, having just moved from there to come to LA - to return with a show like 24 - I couldn’t have asked for anything better.

Tashi: What was craziest?
Hakeem: I suppose one of the craziest moments for me was being in a stunt car with a stunt driver - the driver doing these crazy turns in the car and you’re in the back feeling a bit nervous, knowing the guys know what they’re doing and you’re doing it all at top speed - if he misses a corner you’re out - and he didn’t.

Behind-the-scenes

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Tashi: What sort of preparation did you do for the role?
Hakeem: For me it’s always a mental prep - knowing that he’s African, knowing a bit about where the story was going. You don’t know much but you know a bit and where the character’s going - the normal sort of thing: research, knowing who you are as the character, his motivations - being an African I knew where he was coming from.

Tashi: You say you don’t know what’s going to happen next - do you get your script episode by episode?
Hakeem: Yeah, more or less - they seem to write, at the max, two episodes in advance so you get it episode by episode. It’s great because you have to know the roots of who you are as a character - your character can go off in any direction and you don’t know that until you get the next script.

It’s a very interesting way of working - not having a complete story arc for him from A to B but you have a particular level of humanity in him so you can respond with whatever happens to him.

Tashi: Yes, I always think about that with Nina in the first season when it turned out she was bad - that she herself didn’t know that before. What’s it like on the 24 set?
Hakeem: The guys have been working on the show for something like seven years so you’re walking into a very well-oiled, and hugely successful machine.

Actors come and go and you’ve got the main crew, and the cameo and recurring roles - it's weird because in one sense you walk in and everybody knows where they should be and you’re coming in not quite knowing where you should be and the speed with which everyone works, so it’s quite intimidating initially - but once you’re into you get used to it and it’s a great bunch of people.

Moolah-talk

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Tashi: Did they pay you a fortune?
Hakeem: I wish they had, I wish had, but they didn’t unfortunately. I’d just moved to LA - the way they pay in America is that the more credits you have the more you get paid so because I’d just moved here I got paid the least you can get paid for a character of this size on the show.

Tashi: What’s it like being an actor in LA? Do you ever have to wait tables?
Hakeem: Luckily for me, no, not yet anyway. Almost everybody you meet out here’s an actor or presenter or producer. I’ve been lucky that I haven’t had to do that.

Tashi: Do you spend your days going for auditions?
Hakeem: Yes, that’s the main thing - you spend your day going for auditions - there’s been all sorts of thing - the writers strike and then a potential actors strike so it’s been a slow time for the industry - the whole industry’s changing and a lot of jobs were lost.

A lot of the movies weren’t going ahead because they were worried actors would go on strike but I’ve been very lucky because I’ve worked. I’ve just done a bit in Wolverine, and also the film Darfur - which I filmed in South Africa, which comes out next year.

Aha: Fresca!

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Tashi: What’s been your biggest career break?
Hakeem: It’s hard to say because each one is different but I’d say 24 – it’s a huge show, it’s international and so many people watch it. Even they don’t watch it on TV they watch it on DVD because they can’t stand the frustration of watching week to week so it’a big thing.

Tashi: What impact did the Fresca ad have on your career?
Hakeem: It had a massive impact in South Africa - it really helped me get out there and become a face in South Africa.

Jack Bauers' Bars

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Tashi: Kiefer Sutherland, in and out of jail and most recently breaking a designer’s nose: talk about that for a bit.
Hakeem: You know, I’ve only just heard the news so I have no idea about it but I must say on a one-to-one I really liked him. Watching him, he is the show - he obviously takes his responsibility very seriously. If the show doesn’t work you’ve got 200 people’s jobs you’re responsible for.

He’s a consummate professional and it was fantastic working opposite him, even though it was only for a little bit with the way the scenes worked - he’s very gracious, he listened to my ideas, put forward his own, he’s very giving and when we’ve been out socially - he’s a really nice man.

Your saying he’s been in and out of jail, it’s hard to picture him like that - he’s a small man and people love him on set so to see the news it’s a bit of a shame but he’s obviously wrestling with his own demons.

Tashi: It’s interesting you say that because I always imagine he’s similar to Jack Bauer, wrestling with things. Maybe that’s just my romantic view of the character.
Hakeem: Probably.

Tashi: Everytime I see a news story I think: “Mmmm, Jack Bauer’s up to things.”
Hakeem: Yes he’s a lovely man and you never know how things go - when you’re very famous people get in your face and it could just be one day that someone does something at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Lost in Hawaii

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Tashi: Your stint on Lost as Emeka - what was that like?
Hakeem: It was fantastic - to go off to Hawaii - they flew me first class to Hawaii, I stayed in an amazing hotel and I was there for ten days, filmed 6 so I could see the island.

It was a bit weird also because it was one of my first shows here - to see the speed with which they work and the professionalism - it was daunting and good.

Tashi: Who looks the most like their onscreen character - up close?
Hakeem: The guys all look exactly the same but the girls look different without make-up.

Tashi: So I shouldn't ask who looks the worst?
Hakeem: No, I wouldn’t tell you. (*Alert! Judging from his answer I immediately thought there must be ONE, ha!*)

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Tashi: What’s been the most exciting acting scene you’ve ever done?
Hakeem: When I did Pirates of Caribbean, doing a scene with Johnny Depp and Keira Knightley - that was fun.

Tashi: What show would you most want to be on next?
Hakeem: I’d like to be on my own show really successful show in the US. If it’s a show that’s already on - there’s a show on here at the moment called Southland - I’d really like to do that. And Prison Break but ultimately I’d like to be in a show that’s new and be one of the main characters in it - something thats edgy and that comes up as a success.

Tashi: What sort of genre?
Hakeem: Drama and action - something intense and serious.

Tashi: And your plans right now?
Hakeem: I’ve just finished Darfur - the movie industry’s starting to pick up now so my plan for the next year is to do some really good films.



For more pics of Hakeem, check out his profile on Snaparazzi:

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5 Comments

Green.arrow
10 Jun 2009 02:37

....i luv this brotha....enjoyed the "innerview".....
i remember when i saw him in pirates of the carribean...he was alll made up, but i ws like...hell to the no....went to imdb 2 verify.......am quite proud i must say!

GML
10 Jun 2009 10:25

Help: I cannot go to the blog home page because It shows this message below. Since yesterday already



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myname
10 Jun 2009 12:29

He is an amazing actor indeed GA.

calamity
10 Jun 2009 12:33

I love this guy. I have loved him since the Fresca ad.

Why Larry Why?
That's cos nothing tastes like Fresaa"

Tashi
10 Jun 2009 15:08

Hey GML - yes we're aware of it and trying to find the fix - it just suddenly went whack and we can't find what's causing it - we're keeping on it.


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