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I am Nude......so what

Written by Username from the blog My voice on 18 Mar 2008
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I am Nude…..so what

That’s the message Marie Claire is trying to drive home. The campaign unofficially kicked off when pictures of Ntsiki Mazwai, poet, singer and activist were allegedly stolen and printed by the Sowetan. Marie Claire Editor applauded Mazwai’s bravery for going full frontal (unshaven punani and all). But those sentiments were not shared by the rest of South Africa who condemned both the picture and campaign calling it tasteless and ill informed. The list of SA royalty to follow in Mazwai’s suite are the Parlotones, Loyiso Bala, Mark Fish & wife and 5fm presenters Poppy Ntshongwana, Christina Knight and Erica Elle;
The negative publicity didn’t stop Marie Claire magazine from launching a second nude campaign aimed at raising awareness and fighting the HIV/AIDS virus. Amongst those who will pose naked are Miss SA Thuli Sithole, Bridgette Masinga, Kuli and Hlubi Mboya and many more. The pictures will later be auctioned and the money will go to AIDS orphans.

The aim of the campaign is to drive home the message that no matter what a woman may wear that doesn’t send an invitation to be raped and assaulted. The campaign is gaining momentum with the recent mini-skirts debacle that saw a young woman assaulted and humiliated at the Noord Taxi rank.

Now let me ask this…….

Will the campaign achieve anything other than sales for Marie Claire magazine? Free porn in every issue…..statement from news24 blogger

Can posing nude for a magazine be taken as taking a stand or just promoting mild pornography?

Would any TVSA blogger pose nude for the “right” cause?

With the increasing rate of women being raped daily in SA, will this campaign achieve its objective or make matters worse?



* Critics and suggestions are welcomed, first outing*




126 Comments

Username
18 Mar 2008 06:23

Help: How do you upload pics?

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azHOT
18 Mar 2008 06:31

good debut Username.... am proud. good article will be right back. on the pics: holla @ the moderators

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Y4K
18 Mar 2008 06:45

Can posing nude for a magazine be taken as taking a stand or just promoting mild pornography? 

Whoever came with this idea is sick. I will never pose for any cause.

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Vutmi
18 Mar 2008 06:48

Marie Claire is going for the Playboy in Disguise route. that's all there's to it. a good thing for couples though: they dont have to buy two mags (i.e. Marie Claire for the wife/girlfriend and Playboy for the hubby/boyfriend) they'll share one...LOL...kidding

on a serious note I dont get the campaign...i really dont!!!! If its working for them, they MUST gp ahead. 

Would any TVSA blogger pose nude for the “right” cause?....the only 'right' cause where i will pose nude is when my husband begs me too and only if his name is Taye Diggs...LOL...the pics will be for his private viewing ONLY...pity he's married...ahem!!!!!!!

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Dabs
18 Mar 2008 06:53

Never, God said to me that my body was my temple, FINISH EN KLAAR!!!!!!!!!!!
There are other ways to campaign but not posing nude. It's such a fashion these days for celebrities to pose nude. What happened to people showing their bodies to the people they loved.  I don't mind short skirts and revealing clothes but posing nude is just an insult. I believe Ntsiki is just an attention seeker. Really now!!!!!!!!!

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azHOT
18 Mar 2008 06:53

Would any TVSA blogger pose nude for the “right” cause?....

yes...the following right causes:
 i would never take a bath or shower clothed
i'd never have sex with my clothes on

any other reason NEAH!!!



Will the campaign achieve anything other than sales for Marie Claire magazine? Free porn in every issue…..

i think it is a marketing gimmick. no more awareness will be achieved this way.

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Best-Achiever
18 Mar 2008 06:54

@ Username ... thanks for the article sister gal ... yazi izolo while i was watching 3-talk it crossed my mind to write an article about it . but from what i have heard i dont think poing naked will help ... these are our celebs and ppl will just enjoy seeing them naked and half of them wont even read what is their reson for posing naked ... the only think that i know can drop down the rape statistics ... WILL BE CUTTING THE TOTOLOZI for rapers ...Period!!!

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Nonny
18 Mar 2008 06:55

Nice topic Username, I will comment shortly (after I have ate my lunch!!).............*BTW I wish Awelane was here coz we discussed this topic at length when the Marie Claire March issue was out*...........

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pullie
18 Mar 2008 06:57

@ Vutmi i agree wit u on thz one, its Playboy in diguise route..posing naked & gud course dnt mix @ all..!! i mean WTF???

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Bra Bizza
18 Mar 2008 07:06

i saw the picture circulating on e-mails and did understand IT cause its not the first time Marie Claire is doing this....Bridget posed naked last year but her picture was shot in style so even when she was naked it drove the point home unlike Ntsiki's one....i'm not saying people should be naked but this is a campaign, as campaigns have a slogan, theme etc to drive the point home but then again we have perverts who wouldn't get the point and the campaign is aimed at such people...

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Username
18 Mar 2008 07:12

Thanks for the replies much appreciated........

my body is my body i am pro that but does that justify me exposing my bare necessities just to prove that point..the campaign for me is just tasteless and fails to invoke anything out of me than a thumbs down. its just to sell magazines.

the only 'right' cause where i will pose nude is when my husband begs me too and only if his name is Taye Diggs. LOL.

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Tynt!
18 Mar 2008 07:26

God said to me that my body was my temple
U beginin 2 sound lyk pastor Ngcindi( sp check), rythm city LOL!!
But hey Em with u...

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PhlyLady
18 Mar 2008 07:28

the only think that i know can drop down the rape statistics ... WILL BE CUTTING THE TOTOLOZI for rapers ...Period!!!

Amen halleluya!!!

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faraimagic
18 Mar 2008 07:38

LOL @ azHot    mara scaring people with your nude self aint cool....ubuntu people ubuntu!!!!

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Earth
18 Mar 2008 07:40

I also received the e mail last week some time,this was before I'd heard about the the whole campaign.The first thing I said when I saw it was: Oh my word she posed nude with an unshaved veegeee...and theeen I made a comment about nice and flat her tummy is,and then my male collegues also made comments about how nicely built she is,can you imagine gore how many others missed the point out there?

Ntsiki is not the only one who posed nude for this issue,but it seems we,darkies are making the loudest noise(I mean no offence to anyone),makes you wonder...We are all against the abuse of women,but we cannot walk around naked protesting violence against women and children,its too dangerous,especially while we have Noord taxi drivers who still have such embarassing thought!!

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Nonny
18 Mar 2008 07:41

I applaud Ntsiki for her bravery...............BUT..................I really think that the Marie Claire SCRE#@D her up diliberately, coz with photography, nomatter how unappealing (lack of a better word) I mean nomatter how unappetising a person can be with the power of good photography, u can make them look decent and they failed to do that with Ntsiki's picture, it's like a diliberate mockery of her body was done, which is wrong and sad at the same time!!!! 

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Fluffy Head
18 Mar 2008 07:42

My opinion: It will do something in opening some people's minds. Some people are soo stuck on this idea that african were born dressed from head to toe and that's how we should and if you choose to show the littleless of skin you are indescent.

I think it can actually help if people can remember that a few decades ago african never dressed in anything more that the animal skin...Amantombazana ayenxiba inkciyo and abakhwenkwe enxiba izibheshu...Now this thing of looking at people who are showing skin is very western actually and not african.

And I'ld do it if it was for a good cause like AIDS awareness and anti-RAPE campaigns.

I'm not too sure if it may reduce the rape stats....you have to think of it this way - its no mini-skirt that makes a father rape a 8 moth old baby in rompers (the baby jammies)...Its something in the fathers head (or something not there) its psychological.

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Nonny
18 Mar 2008 07:45

And shame yazi I felt so sorry for Ntsiki when I saw lezamfaduko ezibacakile zamabhele all exposed kanjalo. Yazi for me everytime I look at her, that nude pic comes to mind!!!!

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faraimagic
18 Mar 2008 07:46

wait till someone decides to send you a nude picture of yo lover....you wont know if its fake or not? emagine that............well i have had a couple of dissapointments! Nxii! shame.

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Y4K
18 Mar 2008 07:48

And I'ld do it if it was for a good cause like AIDS awareness and anti-RAPE campaigns.

Aids awareness has got nothing to do with a naked body and Anti-rape.

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Nonny
18 Mar 2008 07:51

"wait till someone decides to send you a nude picture of yo lover....you wont know if its fake or not?"
OK Fara aka Prosper...........LOL, we know that the Kelly Khumalo nude pic was fake.............now can we concerntrate on Ntsiki and the Marie Claire Campaigne!!!!!

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Dimago
18 Mar 2008 07:53

Hai...Ntsiki is brave shame....it takes guts to do something like that and still be able to face the crowd/public....what did her family say bantu? huuuui....I'm all for freedom of speech, but i think this is a bit too much!!

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Fluffy Head
18 Mar 2008 07:54

YK4 - note the use of the word 'like' which means I am making an example.

BTW,  was it necessary to make that response...What value is it gonna add to what we are talking about. This is the problem with most people in general - quick to pick up people's short comings and not focus on the important matter.

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Spy
18 Mar 2008 07:58

I feel you Nonny - the whole picture looks wrong.  Its a wrong kind of nudity.  Photographers could have made it look better - and she wouldnt have looked like that.  I've seen naked pictures for causes but this just has a bitter taste.

Besides that black people dont support it, the media has  made a mockery of it and the rapist have missed  the point.  Maybe she is trying to make a statement but i think it didnt come out right.  Maybe all of those other celebrities' pics would have made a clear statement but now with Ntsiki's nudity all people are talking about is her and not the message.  The whole campaign is now messed up!

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faraimagic
18 Mar 2008 07:59

hey wena NOni i wasnt talking about uKelly....was just saying it coz a bunch o frends pranked me once........(unshaven punani and all )LMAO!

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Bra Bizza
18 Mar 2008 08:00

i think Y4K you are missing the point....nudity is used to highlight the point as it connected to sex which connects to HIV(if a condom is not used)...also connects to rape for those with sick heards who cant control their penises when they see someone nude.... here is a quote from Robin Williams-"God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time."

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faraimagic
18 Mar 2008 08:05

LOL Bra Bizza.....i know that sense ....confusing  brains or a dick.......sometimes man just fail to use one  mara even in music the best way to sell records is thru sex...guess its just a business strategy.

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Nonny
18 Mar 2008 08:09

"Besides that black people dont support it, the media has made a mockery of it and the rapist have missed the point."...........@ Spy, I am so with u right now, I feel what u are saying, Ntsiki's pic has really shifted the main focus of the message of the campainge and now it's all about her body and how it is not public viewing material. Tis sad, coz personally, I can't help feel sorry for her coz initially it was a good concept and now it has just so so so wrong!!!!

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faraimagic
18 Mar 2008 08:12

did she (Ntsiki) got paid?and how much was it?

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belz
18 Mar 2008 08:16

I havent read y'all comment so if i say thats been mentioned forgive me.  I dont think there is any cause that will make pose nude, Hell No!!!! I dont understand this campaign. how does posing nude reduce the risk of AIDS? How???aargh man i think this is sick!!! Ntsiki posed with an unshaven punani??? WTF???

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myname
18 Mar 2008 08:19

im always late like umRev waseChurchy. ............am going to read it 2morow but i think i know what u r talking about but hayi cha shame i can try if there r millions not one million

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Username
18 Mar 2008 08:23

@ Dimago

She and Thandiswa Mazwai were suppose to pose nude but when the picture came out her family decided to “ban” Thandiswa from posing, due to the attention her sister’s picture was getting and they felt since Thandiswa had a child she should not be posing nude for magazines.

The Parlotones picture was shown ku Noleen and those guys are using props to cover up.

Marie Claire spokesperson said that it was Ntsiki Mazwai who decided against covering up and pose bare naked and they respected her will and strength to expose herself like that.

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Nonny
18 Mar 2008 08:24

"mara even in music the best way to sell records is thru sex...guess its just a business strategy."
Yah man Fara, but sex is not everything, and sex sells only to a certain limit, that's why artists like Kelly Khumalo have decided to change their images and go for a more lady like look and do more corporate functions, becoz that whole sex sells image is not always the way to go. Though the sad part is that first impressions count!!!!

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Nonny
18 Mar 2008 08:30

"How???aargh man i think this is sick!!! Ntsiki posed with an unshaven punani??? WTF???"
@ Belz, u seem to be shock gal, yes Ntsiki posed nude with an unsaven punani namabele alengayo all out in the open, if u have a roaming email adress, just tell me and I will forward u the pic..............*I hope it helps the campaigne..........LOL*!!!!!

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Tshd21
18 Mar 2008 08:32

I understand the campaign...but I also saw Ntsiki Mazwai's pic...tasteless and un-appealing......and I am straight!!

They tried to make her look good by re-touching the pic but still....the least they could have done was make sure that her un-shaven punani comes out classy. I'm sure technology can do that now adays! How else do people look good in pictures but ugly in real life? Hello??

Be back now now...going to read  y'all's replies while I pretend to be  working!!!

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Nonny
18 Mar 2008 08:34

"The Parlotones picture was shown ku Noleen and those guys are using props to cover up."
Apparently for the Parlotones, the size of the prop reflects the size of the actual totolozi............(LOL.........that's my point exactly is that people are not getting the bigger picture, just like me the campaigne is not effective they need to stop and try another strategy)

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sjura
18 Mar 2008 08:35

i wanda if the rapists do buy the Marie Claire(sp) magazine...

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Bra Bizza
18 Mar 2008 08:37

this campaign has been running since last year but no one made a noise last year about Bridget and others....so what exactly is the issue here cause it seems like i'm missing the point....its just that Ntsiki's picture was not done with style like other people from last year cause they looked sexy to me and I UNDERSTOOD that nudity was used as a TOOL to highlight the message that we MEN should respect a woman's body , that it belongs to her and WE HAVE NO RIGHT to do as we please in the name of horniness if such a word exists.

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Nonny
18 Mar 2008 08:37

"I'm sure technology can do that now adays! How else do people look good in pictures but ugly in real life? Hello??"
I agree with u Tshd21, they could've made her look decent and they chose not to, and to me it seems delieberate.........maybe it's also part of the message they are tryna send across.........asazi!!!!!

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Nonny
18 Mar 2008 08:40

"i wanda if the rapists do buy the Marie Claire(sp) magazine..."
@ Sjura, remember that in the perverse world that we live in, some rapists are the most classy people on earth and yet they are doing the most dispeakable things like rape. So yeah maybe they do buy Marie Claiire.............only when there is nudity, coz they wanna perve on the bodies!!!!!

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Username
18 Mar 2008 08:44

Apparently for the Parlotones, the size of the prop reflects the size of the actual totolozi

Nonny
hayi...ungumntana owazalelwaphi lo use kangaka.LOL. i have your mother on speed dial so you must know...

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Nonny
18 Mar 2008 08:47

"Nonny hayi...ungumntana owazalelwaphi lo use kangaka.LOL. i have your mother on speed dial so you must know..."............@ Username - Well once u phone mommy, she will confirm that it's the case of like mother like daughter, so she will give me a thumbs up for being so alert..............LOL

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WhiteSockGirl
18 Mar 2008 08:52

Will I undress to support a cause?  
Yes, if I thought that my nudity would somehow bring attention to that cause... however I am not convinced that nudity is a way to support a cause.  Same way that I do not think that an advertisement in which a naked gorgeous man with a cellphone in the man would cause me to actually go out and buy that cell phone.  In the end I would be able to describe you the man in detail but I would not even able to tell you the make and model of the cellphone.

Sex sell?  No, not for me.  I am a sexual being but I also consider myself an intelligent being and any company that uses sex to sell me a product underestimates my intelligence and for that reason I WILL NOT BUY THAT PRODUCT. 

Same for causes.  

The Marie Claire campaign failed in its mission.  The focus is now on the nudity and not on the cause.

That is a great pity.  All that celebrity influence and power could have been steered into a more positive direction and support for that cause.

What is the cause again?  I can't remember.  I do remember that the wife of the soccer player (Fish something), realized when she looked at the pictures, that she needs a boob job.

Some impact that the campaign had.

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Nonny
18 Mar 2008 08:59

"Sex sell? No, not for me. I am a sexual being but I also consider myself an intelligent being and any company that uses sex to sell me a product underestimates my intelligence and for that reason I WILL NOT BUY THAT PRODUCT."
Thank God we blog with Kelly Khumalo's agent, now they know that it's agood thing they ditched the "Sex sells" image of hers!!!!

"The Marie Claire campaign failed in its mission. The focus is now on the nudity and not on the cause."
Amen WSG.............that's my point exactly you knowi!!!!!
 

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Tshd21
18 Mar 2008 09:08

@ Bra Bizza: I personally have no problem with the campaign...but I also saw Bridgette's nude pic last year and it looked 'decent'....

I have no problem with Ntsiki deciding that she wants to pose nude for a worthy cause...It's her right on this very democratic SA....What I don't understand is why the pic looks soooo horrible...All I'm saying is even if people look ugly...they can look better on pix...way better with the technology that we have actually. 

Sometimes, if not most of the times, what you see on the pic is totally different to what you see in real life. Infact, that it how it is done, especially where people pose nude. Them magazines want to make sure that they sell whatever idea they are potraying by making it look as 'perfect' as posible. 

Couldn't they have done the same with Ntsiki?? That is my question here. It is very clear that they re-touched the pic to make her look better...they could have re-touched it even more...so that it at least looks easy on the eye...

The photographer could have just played around with the pic a little bit...

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Cnglemother
18 Mar 2008 09:15

nice article mkhaya, just have to show some love and bigups to a hommie that's all. Eishkom in sandton is driving us nuts. c yall ngomso hopefullly i will be able to blog.

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tizoz
18 Mar 2008 09:21

There is nothing wrong about Ntsiki's body and her pic on Marie Claire (except for her falling titties) I think it's a beautiful picture and its not like her thingie is open like in porn mags. it is still tastefully done and we need to get over being hollier than thou attitude.

So yeah maybe they do buy Marie Claiire.............only when there is nudity, coz they wanna perve on the bodies!!!!!

I take offence to the above cause I bought the mag because of the campaign and that doesnt make me a rapist. I was not happy with the packaging though cause it felt like I was buying Playboy or something. Yes I would agree some people used it to perve but looking at the selection of peeps there wasnt anything worth perving on excepr for LB, that pic one could perve on. 

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sponono
18 Mar 2008 09:23

as for Ntsiki..I think she took the whole soul sista-girl thing too far..and tried to do like India Arie...(singing "i am not my punani hair."..hi hi hi) and go all natural and maybe she refused touching up....oh well  'twas for the right cause...LOL

Would any TVSA blogger pose nude for the “right” cause?....

hi hi hi ....yeah I would.... but photoshop will have to work overtime...to disguise  my mkhabisto and my snail totoloz ...this technology can do wonders and if it will enhance somethin and make it look betta I will be damned if they dont use it..on my photos......

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tizoz
18 Mar 2008 09:27

Will the campaign achieve anything other than sales for Marie Claire magazine? Free porn in every issue…..statement from news24 blogger - you can hardly call that stuff porn

Can posing nude for a magazine be taken as taking a stand or just promoting mild pornography? - Sports illustrated, FHM, MH have half naked to naked bodies every moth but it's allowed why cant marie claire do it for a good cause?

Would any TVSA blogger pose nude for the “right” cause? - if I was self concious about my weight I would there is nothing wrong with nudity I just thing it's overrated.

With the increasing rate of women being raped daily in SA, will this campaign achieve its objective or make matters worse? - It's unlikely it will make it worse or better people who rape dont just do it because of pornography and nudity they just have messed up brains they cant tell a difference between what is right and what is wrong.

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Tshd21
18 Mar 2008 09:38

@ Spopo: to disguise my mkhabisto and my snail totoloz........this technology can do wonders and if it will enhance somethin and make it look betta I will be damned if they dont use it..on my photos...... ROTCLMAO...

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Cande
18 Mar 2008 09:49

Mina ngeke

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sponono
18 Mar 2008 09:54

hawu Cande  the way omuhle ngakhona...not even a "half cut"  LOL...you'd make a beautiful mona lisa  with your innocent look.....a beautful half-naked black mona lisa...mmmmmhhhhhh no photoshop required for you...  dont say neva cande..
its for a good cause......dont forget that....LOL

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Bra Bizza
18 Mar 2008 10:07

i'm with you Spopo on Cande...its for a good cause choma..you just need to ditch that wine glass..

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Madame
18 Mar 2008 10:48

I'm tired of all the stupid marketers in South Africa, kanti when they go to study marketing is 'sex, nudity and shock" the only thing they are taught at these marketing schools. No wonder there are so many 'fly by night marketing schools". This Marie Claire campaign is offensive to say the least, not only because of the nudity but just the lack of creativity and intelligence behind it. This campaign failed because marketers take us for dumbasses, they don't give a f*&^% about rape victims all they want is to sell magazines. Whether you buy the magazine to perve makes no difference to them, it's money in the bag for them. 

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belz
19 Mar 2008 00:05

i'm with you Spopo on Cande...its for a good cause choma..you just need to ditch that wine glass>  If she downs the glass of wine, the photo might be very unflattering, you know what alcohol does to people, LOL!!

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 00:25

Yesterday, Nonny said - "So yeah maybe they do buy Marie Claiire.............only when there is nudity, coz they wanna perve on the bodies!!!!!"

Yesterday Tizoz sais - "I take offence to the above cause I bought the mag because of the campaign and that doesnt make me a rapist. I was not happy with the packaging though cause it felt like I was buying Playboy or something. Yes I would agree some people used it to perve but looking at the selection of peeps there wasnt anything worth perving on excepr for LB, that pic one could perve on."

Today Nonny replies - Tizoz,
I don't understand why you take offence to the comment I made, becoz I was talking about rapist's, and since u say u are not a rapist, why would it offend u???? I said MAYBE and therefore that word states that I could possibly be wrong that in saying: "Maybe RAPISTS do buy Marie Claire to perve on the bodies." Coz remember Tizoz, a rapist is not always some shallow looking person, it can be anyone coz sometimes people aren't what they portray themselves to be!!!!! Now tell me, do u still take offence?????

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Cnglemother
19 Mar 2008 00:36

The campaign might have not achieved its goals but look on the brighter side, Nontsikelelo really scored a whole lot of attention and publicity she might have not attracted if her photo was technologically enchanced to appeal to the masses as there would have been other girls that are more eyecandy than her. A whole lot of people did not know about Nontsikelelo before this and now the shift has moved from the whole campaign to Nontsikelelo, talk about shining a on Marie Claire's shine girl. She will go down on the history books as the chick that showed her pubic hair on a national magazine.

 She knew exactly what she was doing knew that it would raise a whole lot of controvesy and definitely beauty to her is not defined by European standards.  On the real though ikuku imbi noba igundiwe or ayigundwanga, ayibukeki nje qha, you cant be staring at it for more than a minute without thinking le nto imbi kodwa, Nontsikelelo nabo ezabo bazigundileyo azintlanga ukudlula eyakho relax sithandwa sam  but okusalayo siyakwazi ngoku. 

Nice one username, i thought i should add my 2c worth before eishkom strikes again.

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 00:44

LOL at the way Cngelmom keeps saying Nontsikelelo...........heheheh.........yazi wena, thanks though now I know her full name,,,,,,,,,,,LOL

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Username
19 Mar 2008 00:59

@ Cnglemother.......thanx a million mkhaya. the last part just cracks me up. igundiwe ingagundwanga. LOL

@Tizoz.....my issue is with the Ntsiki picture and the way it was taken. The campaign itself never attracted this much attention until her picture was published.

There are sick people out there who are even willing to go on national television saying that if a woman is wearing a mini-skirt she needs to be "helped". I would not want to hear what they thought of Ntsiki's picture or any picture of a naked woman pornography or for a good cause

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sponono
19 Mar 2008 01:01

hi hi hi wabelesela Cnglemom ngo Nontsikelelo and her kuku   hi hi hi

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KeleFabulous
19 Mar 2008 01:04

what Ntsiki did was a very brave thing to do. but in the wrong country. the people in this country (just thinking about ootaxi driver base noord from last nite's 3rd degree) are not ready for such a stark bold statement. this sort of campaign apparently has been working in lots of more culturally advanced countries all over the world, eg brazil but lana really we still have a long way to go before our people can properly absorb the meaning of shock campaigning.

marie claire is a classy magazine and i don't think they're trying to encourage porn or anything of the sort. they're just misguided in thiinking like the other magazine editors of this world. i say big ups to them but they should hold off on the next nude campaign for at least another 5 yrs (hope that's long enough)

yippee! don't know if they forgot to block this site today or waht but i am using every opportunity...HELLO LOVELY PEOPLE OF TVSA!!!!!

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Cnglemother
19 Mar 2008 01:07

Nonny bengifuna ukuvusa nabakubo abalele (Ntsiki's ancestors) bazi ukuthi inkosazana yabo seyingusaziwayo kwezikamabonakude, ibonise ngengungquza yayo ngokuziqhenya, ok Nonny lets stop right here before I mess up a good artice and before besidla ngamazinyo, username shwele sisi ungaqumbi uqalekise, its all in the name of fun.

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belz
19 Mar 2008 01:09

LMAO @cnglemom, hahahahahaha ngiyazi maan uba imbi leyanto kodwa ibangcono if kungena bush. just a question, does this Ntsiki have a husband, i wonder uthini yena.

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Toxic
19 Mar 2008 01:22

There is no cause on earth that would make me pose nude (stretchmarks and all)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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monchooza
19 Mar 2008 01:26

I would pose nude to show off....infact i am available, any one who wants me to pose,,,halla at a brada

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sponono
19 Mar 2008 01:26

OFF TOPIC....did y'all read these latest news..about mawillies-ntwenjan

Kwaito icon William Bongani Makhubela, also known as Ma-Willies, has died.
Makhubela, 38, drew his last breath at his Soweto home last
 

I guess this answeres a certain blogger's question of "who's next".......sad

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Toxic
19 Mar 2008 01:28

LOL Spo!!!

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sponono
19 Mar 2008 01:28

Hello KeleFab....

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 01:32

"Nonny bengifuna ukuvusa nabakubo abalele (Ntsiki's ancestors) bazi ukuthi inkosazana yabo seyingusaziwayo kwezikamabonakude, ibonise ngengungquza yayo ngokuziqhenya, ok Nonny lets stop right here before I mess up a good artice and before besidla ngamazinyo, username shwele sisi ungaqumbi uqalekise, its all in the name of fun."
 
LOL at Cnglemom.........hayi shem uhamba wedwa ou, abakuyeke........LOL

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Tynt!
19 Mar 2008 01:34

HABE( In khethiwe's voice) Mawilies?

Was he Zombolicious too?

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 01:36

"Kwaito icon William Bongani Makhubela, also known as Ma-Willies, has died.
Makhubela, 38, drew his last breath at his Soweto home last"

Argh man Sopopo, tis so so sad man, RIP Ma-Willies, I bet u someone is already compiling a blog abt him, so i'll send my condolemces there.........LOL

"guess this answeres a certain blogger's question of "who's next".......sad"..........heheheh.......where is Baby Denice coz this was her question????

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belz
19 Mar 2008 01:36

Auuw shem Ma Willies, konje ngomuphi uMa Wilies? Did they mention the cause of death, not that its important. My condolences to his family.

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 01:38

Was he Zombolicious too?...........LOL......Tynt u are mean, neway u know what they say, kuyahlekwa noma kufiwe (there is laughter even when there is death)!!!!
So the latest term is Zombolicious I see.........heheheeh

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Toxic
19 Mar 2008 01:40

Belz....he sang "into'enjani leyo....ngiya vula u ya vala....into enjani leyo" He's also featured on the PHULI'QOLO song and sings somthing like "Mahoota orobeha letheka"

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 01:40

@ Belz, u gotta know Ma Willies and his husky voice he was also a kwaito artist hey, google him I'm sure u will find a pic of him somewhere!!!!

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sponono
19 Mar 2008 01:47

Nonny......the next thing you know bazothi if you have aids...une Zombo.....LOL..

e.g.nonny taking to her friend  .(I met your ex yesterday ..he looked Zombolicious...man kanti yin vele...!!
!)   hi hi hi

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Cnglemother
19 Mar 2008 01:51

LOL at Tynt going habe, it does not suit u!

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andi01
19 Mar 2008 01:53

@ Tynt Was he Zombolicious too?, please elaborate

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andi01
19 Mar 2008 01:55

@ Belz
Highlight the ones you know from this list, Mase, Kci & Jojo, Keith Sweat, Gerald Levert, Barry White, Anita Baker.???????

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 01:56

"Nonny......the next thing you know bazothi if you have aids...une Zombo.....LOL."
@ Spopo, where have u been, sekushiwo njalo already!!!! I LMAO when this gal was saying to her friend: "We ou, angisahlangani neskoon, ngisaba iZombo bandla"..........LOL

P.S - Sorry username didn't mean to off-topic on ur blog!!!! 

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Tynt!
19 Mar 2008 01:58

@ Andio1:  Was he HIV + too? Is that clear nuff?

@ Cnglemother, I knw wht u mean LOL

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sponono
19 Mar 2008 02:02

andi01...musa ukudlala  ngo Belz..she's only sixteen...she belongs to the house generation .......(or kanjan Belzito..angithi wena you dont know the old school flavour LOL.....jus kidding girl i know you know these uncles and aunties andi01 is asking you about....hi hi hi

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belz
19 Mar 2008 02:03

@ Belz
Highlight the ones you know from this list, Mase, Kci & Jojo, Keith Sweat, Gerald Levert, Barry White, Anita Baker.???????
   Why andi? Nonny, i know mawillies song but im struggling to get a pic of him, ndiyilibele iface yakhe.

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Cnglemother
19 Mar 2008 02:05

Nonny angithi niqonde ukung'ziba vese?

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sponono
19 Mar 2008 02:06

haaaaaaa Nonny you must be joking...i guess i'm not clued up with the street lingo.....Ha!!!!   (remember his song was ngiyayifun'izombo.with Queen singing ....now its the opposite..ah ah .angiyi'fun'izombo....ROTFLOL..sad at the same time....

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sponono
19 Mar 2008 02:08

LOL@ Cnglemother....complainin

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 02:08

Belz u don't know Barry White and Anitha Baker???? Hayingeke sana where have been living????..............LOL
Well if u know Wilson B.Nkosi and Eddy Zondi, atleast u were close to knowing Barry and his voice............LOL

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Cnglemother
19 Mar 2008 02:08

@Belz Why andi? Nonny, i know mawillies song but im struggling to get a pic of him, ndiyilibele iface yakhe. iface yakhe ayichazeki, zezaface zakudala,ngubhuti nje weoldschool . he was popular ngo 97/98

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Zee Babes!
19 Mar 2008 02:14

@Spono Mawillies is gone too - yo these people ngathi bakwi Two Oceans marathon.

as for uSis Ntsiki - I think dat her breast are too saggy for dat pic - and an ushaved punani - angazi ke.

Ha ha Zombolicious - nyc!

@Mabloggers Off topic thou - How do I call MTN cellnumber direct to voicemail - there is some1 I want to traumatise.

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belz
19 Mar 2008 02:15

Yazi guys maybe i know their music, not the faces like umawillies for instance, angikho domu kangako seriously.

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 02:15

Cnglemom, all eyes on u, what do u want me to say, u know that I would never ziba/ignore u?????

"haaaaaaa Nonny you must be joking...i guess i'm not clued up with the street lingo.....Ha!!!! (remember his song was ngiyayifun'izombo.with Queen singing ....now its the opposite..ah ah .angiyi'fun'izombo....ROTFLOL..sad at the same time...."
ROTFLMAO...............hehehehe............wena Sponono, u are gonna make me loose my job, phela sengiqethuka la-ofisini ngathi ngisemfuleni all becoz of wena.............LOL

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azHOT
19 Mar 2008 02:20

hawu kodwa ngo Khuzwayo!!! phela u Mawillies i bra yam'!

we Khuzwayo' inte njan' le*sniff* 

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Miss K
19 Mar 2008 02:21

Molweni

@Nonny how about putting up an 'Off the Topic Reloaded' article please? There's so much off the topic shyt i'd like to blog about but i dont wanna do it here on Username's article asseblief tu meisie kind.

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 02:22

"iface yakhe ayichazeki, zezaface zakudala,ngubhuti nje weoldschool . he was popular ngo 97/9".............LOL @ Cnglemom.........ROTLMAO.............yah man Belz, uMa Willies had this razzo typa look, labobuti abazithandayo!!!!
Shame man, I can't believe he has passed on, phela just a couple of weeks ago, he was on the newspapers saying that he is selling his clothes for money, coz ube broke bandla..........*I wonder who bought his Papa G kinda T-shirts that he used to love wearing.........LOL*!!!

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Makoenan
19 Mar 2008 02:25

Can posing nude for a magazine be taken as taking a stand or just promoting mild pornography?

Whoever came with this idea is sick. I will never pose for any cause.

Y4K.... Y4K... Y$k.....

The aim of the campaign is to drive home the message that no matter what a woman may wear that doesn’t send an invitation to be raped and assaulted.

...Can we 4 once forgert  about our TRIANGLE OF (WO)MAN HOOD and concentrate on a good cause.

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 02:26

@ Miss K, how about u do a OFF TOPIC reloaded blog coz mina I am off to a meeting manje at 10h30, I really won't mind u using my brand........LOL

"hawu kodwa ngo Khuzwayo!!! phela u Mawillies i bra yam'!
we Khuzwayo' inte njan' le*sniff*"..........
Yeah right Azhot, LMAO at u reminding me about his song "Inte njan' le"...........LOL.........

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sponono
19 Mar 2008 02:27

hi hi hi @ Belz......

this was my favourite song by mawiliies
"mawu'moshis'khathi
 s'vele sivaye 
sithi nca nca nca.
..aka-limale
....".....
.........not sure of the last part and what it means. adn it sounds stupid...LOL...but it was a banger and I think he was one of the coolest kwaitists like  Thebe...wayenga-phaphile....

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Cande
19 Mar 2008 02:29

I was about to ask about Mawillies coz i saw a sowetan article. what happened to him was he sick? He looked well on that phuli iqondo video ya ga Mahoota...People in the music industry must be aware ungathi they are being sprayed with idoom.

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 02:36

"mawu'moshis'khathi
s'vele sivaye
sithi nca nca nca.
..aka-limale...."..... 

@ Sponono, this was one of my favourate songs as well, but my ultimate favourate, till today I still can't figure out, what exactly was he saying, but it goes something like:
"Bonakile bo kali kokotelelo
Igago, bayabuso o Nderrrr"
Someone plz tell what exactly was he saying *coz I know I never got it* and what does it mean????


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belz
19 Mar 2008 02:36

LOL Cande, doom????? hahahahaha.

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Cnglemother
19 Mar 2008 02:37

@Cande He looked well on that phuli iqondo video ya ga Mahoota... LOL at phuli iqondo, ungumtswana neh?

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sponono
19 Mar 2008 02:38

Makoenan ...trust me we tried to forget about the tringle but dang the way ebingakhona leya ka-Ntsiki..with the forest and all....its very difficult to forget....LOL...i guess the shock-value of her rough kuku serves the good cause anyways...hi hi hi

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andi01
19 Mar 2008 02:39

@ Belz: No girl I am doing a research for my assignment, the assignment looks at how South africa contributes on Global warming, becuase of the the American market. I am trying to find out whether it is true to assume that "Africans know more about America than they know about Africa, hence they are more interested in American breed than our African. (breed: i.e. music, movies, clothes etc). 
@ Tnyt: Was he HIV + too? Is that clear nuff?,   am  disappionted by ur statement, Zombo represented so many things in his life, he was a good musician, a talented producer and a fantastic performer, Iam disappointed to find that when he is gone you chose the cause of his death to label him. You choose to remember him by how he died rather than celebrating his legacy. Africans is it in our veins to be that negative?????, does it run in our blood to always look 4 de negatives when we are flabbergasted by the positives. i am hurt, truly. Secondly, 2 assume that Ma-willies was HIV +, (i see a retorical qxn here), is it fair to be this insensitive and negative. the paper soecified that he had TB, why do u have to asume the worst.

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Username
19 Mar 2008 02:39

Nonny forgiven.


@ Makoenan

Why do you say it’s a good cause and why do you personally support it. The issue here is about woman hood and using nudity to create awareness against rape and HIV/AIDS and how much effective has the campaign been.

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 02:40

Seriously now, RIP Ma Willies............Eish those were the good old days, oMdu Masilela besathi: "Gibela phezu kwendlu, ubatshele omaZola siyakada, sangena, sangena, sangena........."........Heyi, hamba mnyake.........years are go *not years ago*.........kwazisholo ubab'omdala wami.........LOL

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sponono
19 Mar 2008 02:41

yyeeeeeeah Nonny I remember that song...and then he'll keep saying..maw'busonderrrr mawubusonderrrr  ..I'm sure andi01 would know the lyrics...hi hi hi (i know you good like that)
.that was another banger in fact that cd was hot...!!!! DANG !!!  irazzo yangempela leyana.....

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Cande
19 Mar 2008 02:41

Yebo cnglemother.. Belz sizothini when musicians are dying left,right n center?

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azHOT
19 Mar 2008 02:42

@ sponono=those were the good old days mfan'akithi

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sponono
19 Mar 2008 02:44

hayibo  kwashuba isimo manje up in here!!

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Cande
19 Mar 2008 02:45

Ma condolesces to his family,friends and fan7

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 02:54

Eish, I suppose Andile & Bonang are gonna do a tribute on Ma Willies manje on LIVE this Friday, it's kinda predictable now!!!! Belz, make sure u watch it coz then the moment u see that dark razzo and hsi husky voice uzomkhumbula I tell you, phela he was it ngezikhathi zakhe.............*In terms of his music ofcourse*

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andi01
19 Mar 2008 02:58

@sponono, I'm sure andi01 would know the lyrics...hi hi hi (i know you good like that:  eish brioer wam, kublind, the thing is I never really understood his language.but i loved his music, i could imitate his voice, and the band, wow, it was awesome. I use to remix this my way

Ndithengisa amakiya omkokotelo (I am selling fake all stars)
Ndithi, ndithengisa amakiya omkokotelo
awe, igagu, igagu, libuyile. (the naughty one is back)

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sponono
19 Mar 2008 02:59

<<cande ...said  ...and fan7 >>    did he have 7 fans.....hi hi hi just kiddin

remember this one by mawillies

thula mabote.....x1000

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suzzy82
19 Mar 2008 03:03

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belz
19 Mar 2008 03:07

lol sponono.

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andi01
19 Mar 2008 03:13

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 03:18

Why are u speechless Andi01, or is ur PC playing tricks on u???

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Dabs
19 Mar 2008 03:20

remember this one by mawillies

thula mabote.....x1000 (LOL)

Guys shem, mawiliies was good hey. Those were the real kwaito days. RIP, funny how we never recognised you when you were alive.

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azHOT
19 Mar 2008 03:26

funny how we never recognised you when you were alive.

i did! and i appreciated his talent. i was 12 but it made sense, most of the time..............

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myname
19 Mar 2008 03:32

Kanti whats going in SA? Salala savuka (we sleep & wake-up) there is another top artist that left us. Oh sorry User i hope u dont mind. Mawilies was my brothers fav singer ngo 19s..........hamba kahle ndoda

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monchooza
19 Mar 2008 03:53

eiag guys i just cant seem to seperate reality from fiction, is marara back here on TVSA or was I Phuphing???

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Nonny
19 Mar 2008 03:57

@ Monchooza, I don't think u were phuphing yazi, I remember one of the days, seeing a reply that sais something like: "Hi guys, my name is Marara, but I don't know why this keeps sayin????"...........I don't know If I am making sense Monchy but I do remember Marara being in the house somehow, so relax u aint loosing it................yet..........LOL!!!!

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sponono
19 Mar 2008 03:58

monchooza...who is showing the signs of of being marara....!!!  marara is busy promoting her cd ...go get it ..LOL

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Toxic
19 Mar 2008 04:02

Monchooza, she is around-i've forgotten what her username is....think it's raraz or smthng like that

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Trix
19 Mar 2008 04:19

If anyone had to see my fat and lumpy body spread out....hairy punani and all....it would be enough to put any living soul of sex/rape for life...!!!! 

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mabhebheza
19 Mar 2008 12:40

ROTFL>.kwa kwa kwa..@Trix..haaikhona 
AH ntate ..fonela maponisa Mahoota walwalwa..
Intejani le kodwa kama Mawillies..RIP 

Baby Denice...i suspect ur a fortune teller...Whos next..yah neh soes waar!!

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