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The Observer: Robbed By A Man of God

Written by TheObserver from the blog TheTVObserver on 10 Dec 2008
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There I was catching up on daytime television when I noticed a segment on Judge Hatchet where she presided over a case about a Man of God who robbed two ladies in one of his Disney Land trip packages. By the way, they need to put together a show on our own family courts. i think we would laugh to no end and back!

The show inspired this blog and within I will have pictures of the segment.
 
Although the topic was serious in that they are in court and all. What got my observing mind going was how bigger the issue was.


We have what I consider to a growing number of reports by church members, who talk amongst themselves and eventual the information gets around. Yet no one would dare confront the priest, instead they will opt to leave the church even if the monster is still preying on other people behind the pulpit.

These reverends are also going all out to master the art of doing bad things, under the cloud of church and religion.

What is happening with the laws which govern ordination and training of such individuals as it seems the world is being bombarded by thieves, retired sales reps, pedophiles, murderers, failed businessmen and rapists disguised as Men of God. As they realize that the church is the new corporation.


Don’t get me wrong, I admire churches such as the Latter Saints as having established a system within their organization which finances their growth and temple building. The same applies to IPCC amongst others. The same cannot be said about a lot of things from such groups. The difference is that those in charge of such churches are involved in their mission (shady or not) but lately you have this BEE type Pastor’s who are busy giving sermons on how important it is for you to give…. to them......sorry I meant thier church! Whilst they go off to do mining deals in their private lives. Nothing is wrong with that… but you can’t treat your congregation as a business transaction.

There is nothing wrong in paying tithes or giving to your church, but why would you pay tithes to a church that is formed with the purpose of bankrupting you as member. If I have three children and a bond including debts and I can’t make my 10% contribution does it mean I have sinned? They would say no but their hearts and look will say more about how bad of a member you are. Shouldn’t your contribution be based on your faith not on how financially sound you are. Then what about those people who are unemployed. Are they then doomed?


Why should we buy our way to heaven? Or we are busy booking no-return first class tickets to hell from blindfaith.com

I was invited to this church and all of a sudden the Pastor called for time for giving and ushers went round with these silver tins which are larger than office bins and everyone began to give. The Pastor went as far as to state that no coins are allowed just paper money, R10 being the minimum. Everyone around me gave R100 notes, so I joined the club. After all its just R100. After two hours the same thing happened again.

When tin came to me for the second time.., I told the usher I have given as much as I can and I am guest. I could not understand why I should give twice. He said you should give more for your salvation. I walked out! I have a limit and religious mind games is my ultimate and I have no tolerance for it. Period! I was not prepared to get into a religious argument with an usher in a church. All I could think of was Matthew 21:12 and how we can't be selling salvation or anything relating to faith and God like the doves in the verse.

Shouldn’t my faith be more important that my wallet or hand bag?

On the other hand, everyone is becoming a pastor of something or splitting from their church to form a reformed this or new salvation that. Yes, giving your life to God is important but you don’t have to be a star in church to proof that you have truly given your life to the creator. I don’t mean to suggest that all those, you know who they are, who suddenly report their entry into the most powerful of jobs, are in any way twisted and have bad intentions.


In my faith you are trained for a minimum of four years to begin your work as  what you all call a "Pastor". It is one of the most demanding processes and requires unbelievable dedication and celibacy. Very few even attempt to freely embark on that journey.

This reminds of a story I found when researching this blog. This person who will remain anonymous, tells me that she was a member of one of this high-flying churches when all of a sudden she confided in her Pastor regarding a personal problem relating to the excessive sexual needs of her husband when all of a sudden the Pastor suggested they pray about it together at that point! You would think this was all going well. So did she… until the Pastor said, “The Lord wants you and I to sleep together in order to cure your situation” HELLO!


May the Lord in heaven help the poor souls, running around with complete blinds on the truth and being sucked in by shady people called Reverends.

Needless to say she ran out of that meeting straight home. The problem is that she could not tell her husband what happened due to the sensitivity of the matter and the fear that the man of the house might be very angry. Meanwhile the good Reverend decided to get ride of any possible problem by having his own meeting with the husband unbeknownst to the wife.

The Reverent “Mr. Pastor” tells the husband that the wife made a pass at him and he is uncomfortable with her being around and if he (the husband) does not mind, the Reverend would appreciate it if they could attend another church. Indicating the fact that the wife’s attention might encourage unnecessary rumors within God’s church. This as you can imagine lead to war at home and to cut the long story short, they separated until the another lady raised an almost similar case and the story was dealt with by the senior members of the church in private and now they are back together (wife and husband).

On the other side…MAN! …the things I put myself through for this blog. Guys my therapist is already planning a vacation due to the amount of money he makes from me, ever since I begun writing this blog, and I am still dealing with the whole kissing thing.  Eish…….


Anyway….another one of my test bunnies revealed a very funny story about dating a Pastor. She said when ever they were doing the tango….Mr. Pastor would scream at the top of his voice as he shoots: “JERUSALEM…. JERUSALEM… JERUSALEM… OHHHHHH JERUSALEM”. Now all this might just be fine to you all, but she said Mr. Pastor would scream with his sermon like voice (like those TV Evangelists) and in the morning neighbors in the complex would compliment the Pastor on his prayers thinking that he was busy all night praying. She later discovered that whilst at church, when giving sermons and all excited in the “spirit” he uses the same word. This is the stuff that messes people up for life!

You end up asking your new boyfriend to wisper Jerusalem in your ear so that you can get off. Becuase you have been scared for enterinity by a man of God..


Now I see why Catholics abstain…it is so necessary.

She said this was psychological torture for her and she ended the relationship sighting "irreconcilable emotional trauma". She said that whenever she hears the word Jerusalem she goes into immediate shock. She doesn’t go to church anymore. I laughed so much……the people at coffee shop thought I was crazy. She said she hated telling me so bad, that she nearly cried as I told her that there is no way I am not going to share this story. She is now dating a biker…talk about an eraser! 

I guess I will skip my appointment this week. The laugh helped!



So I want to know from you….what do you think of this wave of bad men of God? Have you had experiences? If so, share.

Also have you ever been hit on by a Pastor or Man of God and how did you feel?


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24 Comments

suzzy82
10 Dec 2008 05:43

She said when ever they were doing the tango….Mr. Pastor would scream at the top of his voice as he shoots: “JERUSALEM…. JERUSALEM… JERUSALEM… OHHHHHH JERUSALEM” kwa kwa kwa ,,,tl tl tl ,,,,haaaaaa some ppl 

So I want to know from you….what do you think of this wave of bad men of God? Have you had experiences? If so, share.


my boy  like to greet this man of God ,i normaly take him from the nursery  by 4:00pm so he doesn't know  good afternoon but he knows good morning ,he said hello pastor ,the man answered thunder fire ur mouth  THIS IS AN INSULT and go back to the house my boy was feeling bad and me too i'm still feeling bad ,i don't believe in insulting old ppl don't want bad luck to follow me ,this one doesn't have respect and he like to gossip,and like to tell ppl that they will die or God will punish them

Arcane_Pat
10 Dec 2008 07:19

a man of God is but a man afterall. my sundays are now spent on pampering sessions for that reason. the bible is a handy companion, they make them pocket-sized these days.

GML
10 Dec 2008 07:33

Asibafuni abefundisi aba wrongo. Deborah said it.

extinct
10 Dec 2008 07:51

Good mornin i would like to reply firstly on the tithe k your q was if u don't give 10% a u a sinner the bible says u have robbed God not man but God i think if all ppl can come to the realization that u don't give to man but God u wouldn't even care bout who does what with ur money i mean if u give me ur skirt its a gift it doesn't belong to u anymore what i do with it its up to me but in this case if the pastor is misusing the money God wil deal with him not man u gave to God so now your money belongs to God so if the pastor takes from God then he'l be punished and secondly bout the pastor who decides how u should give their missing the point The Bible says give accordin to what u have prepared in ur heart by the time i leave my house i kno how much i'm gonna give no man should decide what i should give cause i'm not givin to him but to God so i wil make a covernent with God and say this is what i'm gonna give and state what i expect of him and thats givin honestly cause if someone choose for u how to give then ur givin grudgily and the bible is against that so lastly u should give cause u want to not out of necessity because everyone is givin u should give out of revelation meanin understandin why u give

makgotso
10 Dec 2008 08:08

Well said Extinct 

On the issue of tithing please read Malachi 3. When we give we give to God not to man if the man misuses God's offering God will punish him in His own way. 

Salvation is not for sale as Jesus gave His life for us we need not to buy it, I totally disagree with what the ushers did for saying you should give for you salvation. Moreover we need to be careful in what we do we should not blasphem God because of the individuals who are pushing their agendas in the Name of the Lord. The Bible also says ''Let the man give as he has purposed in his heart for God loves the cheerful giver.

Whatever we do let's do it for the Lord.

tha - bang
10 Dec 2008 08:48

its a pity there are alot of people who use the good Lords name to rob people and to perverse bible principles like tithe.But they will all get theirs in the end

Dimago
10 Dec 2008 11:50

When tin came to me for the second time.., I told the usher I have given as much as I can and I am guest. I could not understand why I should give twice. He said you should give more for your salvation. I walked out!
OMW...i also would have walked out...

Extinct you are so on the mark there...

heavenly
10 Dec 2008 14:01

nice one the Obs the jerusalem story is funny....LOL

im glad your article showed that its the people who are greedy and not the religion. unfortunately we deal with these kind of people everyday and everywhere. its just it seems easier to deal with being robbed by a thug than someone who is called a man of God. but people use what we honour and trust for their evil, like "cornmen "they dress nicely in suites and speak high englishes so does these "cornartist pastors" they find one powerful message and bombard us with it like forever, everywhere he preaches its the same messg and shouting on top of his voice avusa amadlingozi.

Also have you ever been hit on by a Pastor or Man of God and how did you feel?
 i had bad experience with a "man of God" he wasnt a pastor but one of those brothers who say praise the Lord even when answering their phones or meeting you on the road instead of hallo. he had a nyc house in Ballito(those around dbn know the place) i needed to hlanganisa something and he was like haw thats my thing wena just prepare this much i'll have it sorted out. i gave him the money and i never had from him. i always see his car parked near outside his office building but i just dont have the energy yakhe. i live by the word " the battle is the Lords" if he is trully a man of God he should know not to mess with Gods ppl coz we are the apple of his eye says the word and if he's not then at least he'll get a chance to see God in action..LOL, ngyamgwajisa.

NtandoN
11 Dec 2008 09:09

This is a sensitive subject and people are scared to comment, this is what I have noticed and if the shoe fits wear it.

I grew up attending the zion church, they never talked about tithing or money for that matter. Anything ranging from 5c was accepted.

Then I went on 2 b a Roman Catholic member the same applied, we would contribute something and the church would b informed b4 the end of the service how much we have contributed.

I then became a Muslim and the same rules applied with the latter emphasizing more on helping the poor.

Lastly I was exposed to these Born Again Christian churches, most of them have been operating in tents for half a decade whereas the members are tithing 10% of their hard earned salaries monthly, where is the money going?

Secondly these churches are based on criticising your ancestors, calling them ghosts, why?

extinct
11 Dec 2008 09:29

The bible states there's no connection betwen the dead and livin and any medium of any kind so i personally don't belive in talkin to the what light would they give u if their dead and u kno what i don't like bout ppl is that pastors are allowed to preach bout certain scriptures but can't talk bout the other the bible is against ancestors and there's only one God and him alone deserves to be worshiped and again it talks bout money that u should give 10% and if the pastor can preach bout not killin not stealin no sex before marriage why should he skip part of the bible whe it talks other gods and money

TheLady
11 Dec 2008 09:45

'" the battle is the Lords"I love this song... let find it on the net...

NtandoN
11 Dec 2008 11:30

Fair enough Extinct, as a blacks we do not worship the ancestors but we use them to communicate with God. If somebody close to me dies now there'll always be that connection.

With the Roman Catholic churches the pastors are trained for +/-7yrs but with the born agains it happens overnight and the pastor's wife automatically becomes a pastor as well without a calling or whatever!

Why are the born agains not revealing their financial side? 2 yrs back I was handling a vehicle application whereby a pastor was applying for vehicle finance for a car worth R870 000. He said the church will pay annually as there's always a pastor's appreciation day yearly.

These pastors are out to empower themselves, they wear expensive clothes, drive expensive cars and live in mansions? Is that on? 

Shirmell
11 Dec 2008 12:20

Oooh I've got so much to say on this issue, Pulpit Pimps is what they are, they pimp from the pulpit and that is wrong. Its so sad to see so many people blindly following these pastors as if they were God himself. Pastors/ preachers/priests/men of God are supposed to be humble, godly and holy people, they are not perfect but they must remember who they are representing, that is why the Holy spirit is there to guide and lead people into what is right and wrong.

The bible clearly says what the heart is full of of overflows from the mouth, if your heart is full of money money money, then that is what will come out of your mouth.

Now that I know what true Christianity is all about, it breaks my heart to see what is happening to Jesus' church, there is so much hypocrisy going on out there, the church is becoming a money making business. The gospel has never changed, its all about Jesus and the prosperity gospel that so many of these new churches are preaching is a gospel straight from the pit of hell, its what the Apostle Paul warned the earlier churches about.

If your church is not preaching Jesus and what he has done for us on the cross and the resurrection and the promised Holy Spirit, then I'm sorry your church is not preaching the true gospel of what Christianity is based on.

As for tithing, that is a personal matter between you and God, He loves a cheerful giver and if you choose to give alot, He will bless you abundantly by means of health, prosperity, etc not just material wealth as so many of these churches are telling their folk, but there are so many different ways of giving to God and its not always about money because not everybody can afford to give loads of money but your time that you give in serving the Lord is equally important.

extinct
11 Dec 2008 12:26

Like i said if the pastor misuse the money we offer to God then God wil deal with him and if the pastor is gettin blessed thanx be to God and if i start drivin expensive cars expensive clothes that only means the Lord is restorin the years i've been sowin into his kingdom and what i don't get is why when pastors get blessed we ask q's cause the bible says their our spiritual leaders and they have to lead by examples i don't think a pastor would preach prosperity if he himself is not prosperous i mean imagine a pedes pastor tellin u that ur cars are on they way while he himself is not seein those blessings in his life and again i repeat the bible say u don't have any connection to the dead or any sort of medium(person who communicates with the dead) when u want to talk to God just pray to him a dead person wont do that and the fact that its culture it doesn't mean its right just like in out culture a man can get married to 3wives but the bible say God took one rib from adam and created eve just one which mean one man for one woman culture can be misleadin at times the only way to get this life is if u go accordin to the bible

Shirmell
11 Dec 2008 12:49

Extinct, so you are saying you agree with the prosperity gospel? Even though Jesus said "go sell your possessions, take up your cross and follow me", what about "you can't love God and money",  the disciples in the bible were persecuted for Jesus Christ, beaten and thrown in jail and still they praised the Lord co's they knew their reward was in the afterlife.

I'm sorry I just don't agree with the prosperity gospel, you can't have your heaven here on earth, these pastors are supposed to be enriching the Kingdom of God, not enriching themselves with the money of blind followers. I agree that whatever they are doing undercover, only God has the right to deal with them.

I also agree with you about how wrong it is to pray via ancestors to reach God, according to the bible there is only one way to God and that is through the man Christ Jesus, he is the one who died for our sins and He is the only  gateway to God the Father.

Vesa
11 Dec 2008 13:59

Extinct....u are so on point!!!! and Big ups for stating the case as it is!

Nna I do not dispute the fact that there are dodgy people using the Lord's name for their own gains! But I will do what is rite of me regarding the Lord and his word.

Sana Lwam
11 Dec 2008 14:13

Nice blog turns controversial...

I'll stick to my guidance teacher's words, " Never discuss religion in public because people have different opinions about it."

Shirmell
11 Dec 2008 14:23

Thats just the beauty of it Sana, Christianity and other religions has and always will be a controversial subject but fortunately there are no arguments here just a bunch of people with different opinions and I simply love reading them and hearing what others have to say.

makgotso
11 Dec 2008 14:29

All I can say as the Bible puts it ''Whatever you do, do it as unto the Lord''.

Dimago
11 Dec 2008 14:41

Nna I do not dispute the fact that there are dodgy people using the Lord's name for their own gains! But I will do what is rite of me regarding the Lord and his word.
Well said Vesa

carino
11 Dec 2008 14:41

tjo..lemme read...

NtandoN
11 Dec 2008 15:07

I guess everybody believes in God but the confusion is with the way to reach Him, some say Jesus is the way, some say Shembe, some Prophet Muhammad, some Abraham.

I wonder what the blacks in SA were believing in before the Whites introduced Christianity religion? Why don't you find these morden churches in poverty-stricken countries like Zimbabwe? Obviously there's no money.

Another thing I have noticed is that you do not choose a religion but born to it, you wouldn't be a christian if you were born in say China, you would be a Muslim if you were born in Arab.

Shirmell
11 Dec 2008 15:55

I guess we'll all find out one day which is the right way, what is really the truth, because there can't be alot of right ways, there can only be one.

TheObserver
15 Dec 2008 13:44

Guys I cannot thank you enough for your contribution to this blog. I've enjoyed reading every single one of the detailed opinions you have shared. This is why I write this blog to discuss issues with other minds and debate in a healthy fashion. I was chatting to a friend in Morocco and we were looking at the inaccurate basis of certain religions and how they've grown based on historical and spiritual inaccuracy. Anyway, just wanted to say thank you. .


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