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  Was Shaka Zulu Gay?

Firstly I really don't  know what inspired me to write this article/blog. It's not easy to write a blog as you all know we've got people who will scrutinize each and every word you wrote, but then again what's the point of writing if there aren't people who will criticize your writing.

Most of you know that Alexandra The Great was gay/bisexual, thanks to the movie and the openness of the Western Media when it comes to issues of Sexuality.

Which makes me wonder how accurate and truthful is our history, well the one that we've been taught by our grandparents or at school. 

We all know homosexuality is not something that just came into existence in the now 21st century but it's something that has been there since the days of Sodom and Gomorrah.

I watched one of the bible teaching by Creflo Dollar on dvd and I'm sure my Christian bloggers will help me out on this one as well, in that video Creflo was explaining the incident that happened between Noah and his son, and how Noah cursed his son for making him drunk and left him naked. Well he said that Noah's son got his father drunk and slept with him and that's the reason why he cursed him. He explained it so nicely I'll try to get an extract from that.


We've all heard people in the media and everywhere saying how unAfrican it is to be gay.

Apparently there's some evidence that Shaka Zulu was also gay and that he used to f**k his soldiers. This Zulu guy was busy bragging about how Shaka was a great warrior and that Sotho and Pedi Kings were cowards instead of fighting they hid in the mountains. When I mentioned that Shaka was Gay he nearly Klapped me.  

if we're proud of our history we should be proud of it and its flaws. We also know about Queen Modjadji the Rain Queen and her many wives and the Bapedi people always defend her lesbianism  by saying that she does not sleep with those women, they're just her helpers in the Royal House.

Any Historical gay figures u know about please share cos I bet you no one is going to tell us about them.


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Reply from: maddie Wednesday, June 17, 2009 15:58 PM
okay
Reply from: maud Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:01 PM
@maddie - i dont know where did you get thiat shaka was guy, but i am looking forward to the replies
Reply from: Pooky Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:12 PM
interesting
Reply from: Cheesa Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:14 PM
heeeeheheeee I have never heard of this - Shaka gay, hayi this is new to me. How interesting mari khawuzenazo ke Maddie simamele.
Reply from: Beyonce Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:16 PM

@ Maddie: You've completely lost your mind this time *angry look lol* , what is the basis of your suspicion?

Reply from: Matha Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:16 PM
Apparently there's some evidence that Shaka Zulu was also gay and that he used to f**k his soldiers.....kwakwakwakwakwakwakwa this is just a toilet paper nee maan.  
Reply from: Green.arrow Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:17 PM
I am also looking 4ward to the replies!!

But as a pedi gal....i am taken aback by this statement...
This Zulu guy was busy bragging about how Shaka was a great warrior and that Sotho and Pedi Kings were cowards instead of fighting they hid in the mountains.....sso wrong the zulu guy was regarding sotho and pedi kings.....and the key to the answer is "google" away.....

I think it is very sad how we dont know our history
i went on an expedition this year to find out the history of my people...i was so empowered from the very inner side of me...it was almost spiritual....untill then all i knew was the history of technology which is only relevant to my proffesion...but my knowing my history influenced a lot of the decisions i subsequently made about my future...

On that note: long live the spirit of kgosi Sekhukhune (the short dude) long live!!!!...

Reply from: Amza Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:18 PM
Huh??
Reply from: myname Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:18 PM
Ja nhee......So u mean everybody who fuck people behind is gay? ...or he had a relationships with other guys...
Reply from: Matha Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:22 PM
Kgosi Sekhukhune is the dude who killed by potato???? 
Reply from: ms.tebby Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:27 PM
Gay?? really?..I will have to read this tomorrow im rushing to Rustenburg for Bafana ***wink, wink***
Reply from: tizoz Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:37 PM
Maddie, Shaka was not gay u beta be glad I am not around....lol cause I am zulu and you dont say stuff like that about the greatest africak king to ever grace this planet.....
Reply from: tizoz Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:38 PM
Reply from: Matha 6/17/2009 10:22:35 PM


Kgosi Sekhukhune is the dude who killed by potato????
 

 lol guys please .... respect!!!!!!!!!!
Reply from: mathata Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:52 PM
once a person put more ppl under his/her roof you must know something is fishy.

Sex is like money,...it doesnt matter where you get it.

some ppl they will call their gardeners to help them to find their shoes under the bed,

did he find one?
Reply from: belz Wednesday, June 17, 2009 16:58 PM
hahahahhahaha, havent read, the topic is funny.
Reply from: nice Wednesday, June 17, 2009 17:01 PM
Kgosi Sekhukhune is the dude who killed by potato???? 

lol, i am gonna have to google to check this out
Reply from: LM Wednesday, June 17, 2009 17:03 PM
I read about this Shaka suspected of have being gay thing sometime last week, either on Thoughtleader (ndumiso ngcobo's piece) or Fred Khumalo's column or letters directed to his column published in the sunday times on the 5th of June.....I just don't remember

Kgosi Sekhukhune is the dude who killed by potato???? maaka a matala....one of those things (jokes) that were never proven or corrected and people take them as facts!!!
Reply from: SistaBB Wednesday, June 17, 2009 17:23 PM
This is so interesting and funny at the same time, I just can't think of uShaka being gay...
Reply from: Green.arrow Wednesday, June 17, 2009 18:28 PM
Kgosi Sekhukhune is the dude who killed by potato???? 
...i knew somthing like this would crop up...
If he was killed by a potato?..it would be a less shamefull explanation for his death...however unfortunately his ultimate defeat was aided by balck brothas....(the anglo -pedi war)...and his ultimate death was by his own brother.....ssssad....but the man will remain a legend in my books....

Reply from: mabhebheza Wednesday, June 17, 2009 19:22 PM
yah neh unesibindi esinamafutha nogal a Zulu king ...thank ur God this is cyber aderwise ngabe uyi mince meat
Reply from: HARAMBE24 Wednesday, June 17, 2009 20:02 PM
maddie...tjo, mina i think ure off the mark nje...ure question is relevant but missing something
Reply from: Toodecent Wednesday, June 17, 2009 20:10 PM

Ga ke itse ...

Reply from: blueroze Thursday, June 18, 2009 08:38 AM
tjo
Reply from: Best-Achiever Thursday, June 18, 2009 08:41 AM
Tjo, you'll have to forgive me because this is gonna be an article within an article.  Maddie, let me explain what is said about Noah and His son. Genesis 9:20-25 says
"20 Noah, a man of the soil, proceeded [a] to plant a vineyard. 21 When he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered inside his tent. 22 Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father's nakedness and told his two brothers outside. 23 But Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it across their shoulders; then they walked in backward and covered their father's nakedness. Their faces were turned the other way so that they would not see their father's nakedness.
24 When Noah awoke from his wine and found out what his youngest son had done to him, 25 he said, "Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers."


You said" how Noah cursed his son for making him drunk and left him naked"

firstly your statement there is the lie on behalf of Creflo Dollar , he wouldnt say that because he knows that Noah got drunk by himself, no one made him drunk, upon his drunkeness got naked and laid on his tent all by himself, his son was not there. The son ONLY saw his father lying there drunk and naked and he went to tell his other brothers, who in turn saw that was the embarrasment, they then took a garmet, put it on their shoulder, walked backwards(so that they will not see their father naked) and covered their father.
It is only when Noah was sober that the two brothers told him what happened and then He curse his grandson Canan, not his son. so please get your facts straight.

and the reason why he cursed his grandson was, in the ancient bible times, families were united so if you curse one member of the family, that family and it's generations was gonna be cursed and live under that curse. Ham(Noah's son) was under Noah's family, so if he cursed him, he would have cursed his own family, so he had to curse someone under his sone generation and he cursed his grandson because his father after he seeing him drunk and naked, he didnt hide his father's shame but instead went out to gossip about it, had he taken it to himself to hide his father's disgrace, no one else would have known what he did, only themselves.

yazi the bad thing here is , our generation is so driven by sexual immoralities and that's why they turn to associate everything with sex, . hhayi bathong.


Reply from: Cody Thursday, June 18, 2009 08:57 AM

the bad thing here is , our generation is so driven by sexual immoralities and that's why they turn to associate everything with sex, . hhayi bathong. 

Too true! hayi maan!

Reply from: nekzo Thursday, June 18, 2009 09:01 AM
the bad thing here is , our generation is so driven by sexual immoralities and that's why they turn to associate everything with sex, . hhayi bathong. 

@ BA absolutely true
Reply from: Mathaz Thursday, June 18, 2009 09:04 AM
I know that his mother meant a lot to him and he did not have a child but i guess that would not make him gay.  I doubt that he was gay.  

the Creflo issue is exactly the way BA explained it.
Reply from: Tazzy Thursday, June 18, 2009 09:11 AM
Was Shaka Zulu Gay? 

yah neh unesibindi esinamafutha nogal a Zulu king ...thank ur God this is cyber aderwise ngabe uyi mince meat

True that! 
I dont think AmaZulu from Northern KZN will be impressed by this statement (tell them Zah...where is she when you need her). I know sum (Zulus) are very ruthless...
Reply from: Tynt! Thursday, June 18, 2009 09:14 AM
jah neh........... lol
Reply from: Cande Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:53 AM
LMAO, eish i gotta laugh @ the topic. What made you think of Shaka zulu Maddie?
Reply from: makgotso Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:58 AM
@BA - Well said, I won't have said better.  

As for uShaka I don't think he was gay. The fact that he hated woman it does not make him gay.
Reply from: zaa Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:17 AM
Queen Modjadji a lesbian? Tjo! I can't imagine her being a lesbian bathong. How true is this Green arrow? seeing that u went on an expedition....and this Queen, are they referring to the recent one or the one that passed? *confused look*
Reply from: Sobza Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:20 AM

Maddie...what were you hoping to achieve by writing this article? 

And please comeback uzoziphendulela........wadisappeara nje into thin air kwenzakalani ngawe.

Reply from: sexyd Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:41 AM
LOL...................Yah As Waar Piet!!!
Reply from: sexyd Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:42 AM
LOL...................Yah As Waar Piet!!!
Reply from: TheLady Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:48 AM
hehehehe-awume ngiyofuna umntwana wakwaPhindangene...

uhmm 1 question-what if he was?
Reply from: sexyd Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:54 AM
@ TheLady............then i Feel Sorry for the Guys He Screwed DUDE was Damn Ugly!!!
Reply from: Best-Achiever Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:54 AM
We also know about Queen Modjadji the Rain Queen and her many wives and the Bapedi people always defend her lesbianism by saying that she does not sleep with those women, they're just her helpers in the Royal House. 

Maddie...  a little bit of reaserach a reading goes a long way....

The "wives of a queen" are not  "actual wives", that's why you'd find them pregnant, impregnated by the man chosen by the Queen's councilor to do so. Well im not sure how it happens in Pedi but i dont thing the Queen is a lasbian. Those women are called "queen's servant", they are there to help in the royal house, like in any other royal house. If the queen and the servants are lesbians, then how do they get the queen's successor, because it has to be a queen's daughter? where does the queen get a child? because from what i know, the Quuen's counsil do choose a queen's sexual patner so that bezothola a child who'll take over when the queen is no more?

Tjo Maddie, Shaka....Gay????  hhhayi unezindaba, you can give shwashwi a run for her gossip.... tl tlt l tl

Reply from: TheLady Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:56 AM
I mean really maddie...I read the article and thought ok-let me see what proof he has...and I get one freaken damn line in the 7th paragraph starting with 'apparently'? Are you kidding me? You are not talking about i3sum lana-you are talking about uShaka-the pride of amaZulu...and all you have to say is 'apparently he was gay'? Dude you are better off not writing articles and honestly not tackling issues you cannot handle...damn!
Reply from: Ms. Jay Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:57 AM
Maddie - please retract your allegation against Creflo Dollar unless you can get us hard evidence he said those things, as BA put it you are totally off the mark...

again - I dont think its wisdom to allege him gay. You may not like the aftermath of what his living relations may do to you.....
Reply from: Ms. Jay Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:03 PM


Dude you are better off not writing articles and honestly not tackling issues you cannot handle...damn!

hahahahahahhahah i agree TL
Reply from: Sbam Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:19 PM
 thanx .. BA...
Reply from: Mafresh Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:21 PM
O reng na mosadi, tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haai o mpolaile
Reply from: Green.arrow Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:28 PM
and this Queen, are they referring to the recent one or the one that passed? *confused look*..... @ zaa.......BA has shed a very insightfull light on the history of Kgosi Motjatji....
I really think it would have been nice if this article was in the positively informing light.....

And again you are spot on BA on this : "yazi the bad thing here is , our generation is so driven by sexual immoralities and that's why they turn to associate everything with sex, . hhayi bathong."
Reply from: Ms. Jay Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:28 PM
where is maddie anyway?
Reply from: Sobza Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:34 PM
Firstly I really don't know what inspired me to write this article/blog

Nothing inspired you sweetie....

It's not easy to write a blog as you all know we've got people who will scrutinize each and every word you wrote

You can say that again.....that's what we are here for....sadikwa bububhanxa
Reply from: Amza Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:36 PM
Tjo Maddie, Shaka....Gay???? hhhayi unezindaba, you can give shwashwi a run for her gossip.... tl tlt l tl 

Hahahahaahkwakwakwakwa....Lmao..talk about hidden talent
Reply from: Ms. Jay Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:40 PM
sobza.............hayi man.......hahahahahahhahahahah i am ROTFLMBAOTIPAL
Reply from: Brown Shuga Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:43 PM
<<<<Firstly I really don't know what inspired me to write this article/blog
Nothing inspired you sweetie....
It's not easy to write a blog as you all know we've got people who will scrutinize each and every word you wrote
You can say that again.....that's what we are here for....sadikwa bububhanxa>>>>>
LOL I don't want to laugh but this is funny. Mina I don't see anything wrong with Maddie asking the question.
Reply from: Best-Achiever Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM
where is maddie anyway?

he is here Ms Jay
Reply from: Best-Achiever Thursday, June 18, 2009 13:13 PM
he = she is here Ms Jay
Reply from: Cody Thursday, June 18, 2009 13:20 PM
tl tl tl, guys! very funny responses!

thathi khava Maddie thathi khava! lol! she is silent blogging! tl tl tl
Reply from: Ms. Jay Thursday, June 18, 2009 15:08 PM
he = she is here Ms Jay

ohhhhh so come out come out wherever you are maddie......tltltltltl
Reply from: realist Thursday, June 18, 2009 15:16 PM
Kgosi Sekhukhune is the dude who killed by potato???? 
Correction, Assumed was killed by sweet potato, meaning women and that is a fact.
Reply from: awelani Thursday, June 18, 2009 15:16 PM
hehehehehehe mabloggers
Reply from: blueroze Thursday, June 18, 2009 15:16 PM
maddie..............o kwadile tweba wa fetsa wa thathi khava
Reply from: Cande Thursday, June 18, 2009 15:21 PM
guys am sure Maddie will come explain herself, maara Maddie nawe what made you think of shaka Zulu in 2009?
Reply from: cleve Thursday, June 18, 2009 15:28 PM
guys am sure Maddie will come explain herself, maara Maddie nawe what made you think of shaka Zulu in 2009?

kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa!!!!!!!!!!
Reply from: Ms. Jay Thursday, June 18, 2009 15:28 PM
maara Maddie nawe what made you think of shaka Zulu in 2009?

a history test?
Reply from: Cody Thursday, June 18, 2009 15:35 PM
guys am sure Maddie will come explain herself, maara Maddie nawe what made you think of shaka Zulu in 2009? 

LMAO Cande!!!!! 

o kwadile tweba wa fetsa wa thathi khava

LMAO Blue! huu wii you guys finished me!
Reply from: Freemale Thursday, June 18, 2009 15:43 PM
OMW, kwakwakwakwa......
Reply from: Lela Thursday, June 18, 2009 19:31 PM
He he he hayi I won't even talk to my boyfriend about this cz he will assume the person who wrote this is Xhosa and I will be banned from blogging for the whole year!
Reply from: sjura Thursday, June 18, 2009 19:36 PM
Lol @ Cande...and another Lol 4 Lela!
Reply from: Lady D Thursday, June 18, 2009 21:15 PM
Guys Maddie is only asking a question,based in the amper research he almost did!so just enlighten him nje!
Reply from: maddie Friday, June 19, 2009 08:28 AM

Reading your replies was so hilarious.
@BA

It's a pity that I don't have the Creflo Dollar tape, but please if u do find it please listen to it very carefully and you'll get what I'm trying to say and please share it with bloggers as well, I'll try to find it too. 

BA - am sure u know that the bible was not originaly written in English but in Hebrew or Greek u'll correct me if I'm wrong, and Creflo was explaining the correct Hebrew/Greek meaning of some of the words in that verse you quoted. You also know that when the bible talks about nakedness it does not mean the actual nakedness of not wearing anything but something shameful.

as for Queen Modjadji's helpers being impregnated by other men and having babies -  sleeping with other men does not necessarily mean they cannot sleep with other women as well .

I'll come back with more answers to some of your questions later

Reply from: Best-Achiever Friday, June 19, 2009 08:44 AM
LOL 

Maddie
You said " how Noah cursed his son for making him drunk and left him naked"

Creflo Dollar would never say that because the bible itself doesnt say that unless if he wasnt reading from the versions of the bible that i know of, Noah got drunk all by himself. Yes i know nakedness is associated with shame in some instances, but then what makes you think that, the shame they are referring to is sex and not the drunkness(also bear in mind that in some instances it means just that naked). Noah's drunkness was enough shame on its own.

sleeping with other men does not necessarily mean they cannot sleep with other women as well
 hehhehe, tell me about it, what proof do you have that they sleep with both women and men????

like i said before, our generation is do driven with sexual immorality to such an extend that we turn everything to be about sex .... hhayi Maddie.

so maddie, wena if you are naked and there is ur sister / friend / ur daughter with you, does that mean you slept with them?


Reply from: Ms. Jay Friday, June 19, 2009 08:51 AM
so maddie, wena if you are naked and there is ur sister / friend / ur daughter with you, does that mean you slept with them?

BA - hahahahahahahahah
Reply from: monchooza Friday, June 19, 2009 09:16 AM
Maddie and BA i love your debate.....qhubekani abanye abantu must just take notes
Reply from: maddie Friday, June 19, 2009 09:21 AM
hehhehe, tell me about it, what proof do you have that they sleep with both women and men

@BA

You know it's difficult to have proof of same sex relations cos you can't have tangible results like babies.

that is why it's even difficult for people to come to terms with the fact that Shaka might have been gay cos there are no babies to prove that.

why don't you guys dispute the fact that Alexander The Great was gay?  

 
Reply from: cleve Friday, June 19, 2009 09:26 AM
Hey maddie, glad you came back...............
Reply from: blueroze Friday, June 19, 2009 09:27 AM
maddie ke eng ka wena kante?
Reply from: maddie Friday, June 19, 2009 09:36 AM
blueroze - b more specific.

why is it so difficult for some bloggers to stomach the fact the Shaka might have been gay
Reply from: Best-Achiever Friday, June 19, 2009 09:37 AM
You know it's difficult to have proof of same sex relations cos you can't have tangible results like babies. that is why it's even difficult for people to come to terms with the fact that Shaka might have been gay cos there are no babies to prove that

people come out all the time about their sexual orientation, why they force them if they didnt, why do you think the worst of others? And ke it will help you not to make those assumptions because you know you'd never be able to prove them.

well i dont know anything about Alex The great and it wasthe first time hearing about him, so i cant comment about him or his sexual orientation
Reply from: blueroze Friday, June 19, 2009 09:43 AM
why is it so difficult for some bloggers to stomach the fact the Shaka might have been gay
because all these are allegations which you; the author cant even prove to be fact

blueroze - b more specific.
o busy o roga batho ba bagolo and are not ashamed
Reply from: maddie Friday, June 19, 2009 09:47 AM
why do you think the worst of others? 

Talking about someone's sexuality BA is it thinking the worst of them
Reply from: TheLady Friday, June 19, 2009 09:48 AM
Maddie-awume kancane ngo Noah...awubuye kuShaka lo since your title is about him...what makes you think he was gay?

Mina anginandaba na Alexander lo...isizwe sakubo singaziphendulela vele mina angazi lutho ngaye...I guess we are not agreeing nor disputing that he may have been gay...err uAlexander the great 

I need help here from people abazi umlando wakwaZulu...the pregnant woman Shaka ordered soldiers to slice open and take out the fetus..wasn't she pregnant with his child?
Reply from: TheLady Friday, June 19, 2009 09:51 AM
Maddie shame-you are even getting the Noah story wrong LOL.
Reply from: Best-Achiever Friday, June 19, 2009 09:53 AM
why is it so difficult for some bloggers to stomach the fact the Shaka might have been gay 

nawe maddie how do you expect us to stomach this when more than half of your article is lies, you even lie about the verse when you clearly know that almost everyone here have a bible ...nc nc nc nc 

you lie about queen being lesbian when you know that when the quuen is no more the crown is given to her daughter and  everyone here know that same sex relations is not productive ...LOL
Reply from: maddie Friday, June 19, 2009 09:54 AM
o busy o roga batho ba bagolo and are not ashamed

@ blueroze LMAO

ke a bo roga ga ke re they might hav been gay, what I'm trying to highlight here is that some of the things about our history has been hidden from us and yet we're so quick to always refer to it when justifying or discriminating against other people 
Reply from: Best-Achiever Friday, June 19, 2009 09:56 AM
Talking about someone's sexuality BA is it thinking the worst of them

No it is not if you are talking about what they are not talking about baeless allegations.
Reply from: maddie Friday, June 19, 2009 09:58 AM
BA -lets get the Creflo dollar tape, I know I might not have quoted him exactly 
Reply from: Best-Achiever Friday, June 19, 2009 10:02 AM
BA -lets get the Creflo dollar tape, I know I might not have quoted him exactly 

first get the verse right maddie,  you verse is wrong so you getting the tape will not even help because what you quoted and what Creflo quoted are two different thing ... get the verse right neh
Reply from: sjura Friday, June 19, 2009 10:03 AM
Lol!
Reply from: faraimagic Friday, June 19, 2009 10:06 AM
Tjo!
Reply from: Cheesa Friday, June 19, 2009 10:10 AM
<<<first get the verse right maddie, you verse is wrong so you getting the tape will not even help because what you quoted and what Creflo quoted are two different thing ... get the verse right neh>>> Tjo BA umphethe uMaddie nee.

BA and others please khanimphuze torho uMaddie aniboni she's even getting the Noah story wrong. And sefuna mana tapes manje and when you have seen them ke guys please come and report back. LOL Maddie akanziwa njalo uShaka Zulu nabantu bakhe.
Reply from: awelani Friday, June 19, 2009 10:13 AM
LMAO, gosh I love this place
Reply from: Heartsbreaker Friday, June 19, 2009 10:13 AM
LOL  Loler  Lolest....Tjo!
Reply from: Best-Achiever Friday, June 19, 2009 10:15 AM
LOL Maddie akanziwa njalo uShaka Zulu nabantu bakhe

kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa
Reply from: lady gaga Friday, June 19, 2009 10:16 AM
he! he! heeeeeeeeee!!!
Reply from: nzuzo Friday, June 19, 2009 10:25 AM
Ayeyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Maddie
Reply from: Katlegom Friday, June 19, 2009 10:28 AM

Please leave my Kgoshi Sekhukhune out of this!

The article is about Shaka Zulu, why are you off topic so early

Reply from: TheLady Friday, June 19, 2009 10:39 AM
thath'icover maddie...hehehehe tli tli tli
Reply from: Strolicious Friday, June 19, 2009 10:55 AM
ha ha ha  eish there is no place like TVSA,bt crus u've desrepected amaZulu Maddie
Reply from: Cande Friday, June 19, 2009 11:07 AM
why is it so difficult for some bloggers to stomach the fact the Shaka might have been gay

But Maddie why raise the issue now? in 2009?? Isnt Shaka Zulu some Zulu king who died a long, long time ago?
Reply from: Beyonce Friday, June 19, 2009 11:20 AM
maddie- you brought this unto yourself, uqinisile u BA (next time get your facts straight before you blurb)
Reply from: Cheesa Friday, June 19, 2009 16:07 PM
Heee Maddie what were you saying again........ uShaka Zulu yiGay yo yo yo heeee.tl tl tl LOL. unes'bindi gal.
Reply from: Lessie Friday, June 19, 2009 16:54 PM
Bathong, what is wrong with being gay. If Shaka was gay, so what????? Gays ke batho mos.  
Reply from: Sweetmilk17 Saturday, June 20, 2009 23:19 PM
Reply from: Sweetmilk17 Sunday, June 21, 2009 00:06 AM
NjengoMzulu, kufanele ngabe sengithukuthele ngagana unwabu, ngathatha izikhali ngayohlasela, kodwa-ke angeke ngikwenze lokho njengoba ngingumuntu ofundisiweyo. Angisiye uchwepheshe kwezomlando, kodwa into engiyaziyo ukuthi ubudlelwane phakathi kuka Senzangakhona noNandi babungebuhle hle. (His parents' relationship was illicit. Senzangakhona even denied partenity, claiming Nandi was not pregnant but suffering from iShaka beetle, whatever that was) UNandi wabe eyindodakazi yenkosi (chief) yaseLangeni. USenzangakhona wake wazama ukwenza uNandi umfazi wakhe wesithathu. UShaka nonina baze bahlala esigodlweni esasingaseBabanango esabe sibizwa ngokuthi kusesiKlebheni. Wakhulela lapho uShaka esemngumfanyana, kodwa njengoba besengishilo ukuthi isimo sabe singesihle phakathi kwabazali bakhe, kwadingeka ukuthi babaleke babuyele eLangeni. AbaNguni babehlukene kabili ngalesosikhathi, kwakukhona abakwaMthethwa ababeholwa nguDingiswayo, kube abakwaNdwandwe ababeholwa uZwide. uDingiswayo wabemukela ngezandla ezinhlophe, (he welcomed them with friendliness). Kodwa abafana baseLangeni abazange bamphathe kahle uShaka. (He was humiliated and discredited as a child) Into ejwayelekile kakhulu leyo kubantwana abakhulele ekhaya konina, ikakhulu emizini yesithembu.  Lokho kwenza uShaka abe nenzondo kakhulu(He had too much hatred for people in general). UShaka wayewazonda amaZulu ngendlela ayephethe ngayo unina ngesikhathi esakhulelwe yena, kwaze kwaba uyazalwa. Baningi abantu ababenza uNandi inhlekisa engakabi iNdlovukazi, kanti uShaka uzoziphindisela uma esethole ubukhosi. Singabonga uSenzangakhona-ke owabalekela i-responsibility yakhe as a father ngoba lokho kwenza uShaka asondelane nonina kuze kweqe. Yingakho abulala izindimbane zabantu ukuba zendlalele unina ethuneni ngesikhathi eseshonile.

Lapha ngizama ukucacisela uMaddie ukuthi indlela ayeziphethe ngayo uShaka yabe ingaphathelene nezocansi(sexual orientation) kodwa uShaka ngenxa yokuhlukumezeka i-judgement yakhe yabe yakha isithombe esingesihle. Njengomuntu obebuza ukuthi uShaka wabe e-Gay na? Impendulo yami ithi cha, uShaka wayehlukumezekile (he had a very traumatic childhood), yonke into wayezama ukuyisombulula ngendluzula(violence). Ukusondelana nomuntu wesifazane (Being intimate with a woman) wayekuthatha njengobuvaka (being weak). Yingakho engazange agcagcelwe. (he was never married). Yingakho amabutho empi (warriors) ayeganwa esemadala kakhulu. (Zulu warriors got married when they were almost sixty years old, when they retired from Shaka's arm forces with very young Zulu maidens). Ngayifunda naleyo yokuvulwa esiswini kowesimame owabe ekhulelwe, angeke ngigxile kangako kuyo. Kungenzeka ukuba Lembe eleqa amanye amalembe ngokukhalipha ukuthi labe li-gay ayikho inkinga nalapho, ngumbono wakho Maddie, kodwa ngokwethu uShaka akazange asondelane nabantu besifazane ngoba wayekhul ngokuhlukumezeka. There are many versions in history about his life, kodwa-ke mina ngikholwa yile.

Kulabo abathi uShaka wabe emubi angazi ukuthi bakhuluma ngani ngoba umuntu owabe emubi kwabe kunguHenry Cele, uHenry akayena uShaka, kwakungathathwa noma iyiphi nje indoda ngesikhathi kuqoshwa umdlalo, uHenry waba senhlanhleni ngalesosikhathi. Azovuka umbhejazane maddie amaZulu athathe izikhali uma ezwa ukuthi ukhuluma kanje. Ngingomunye wawo, ngikholwe. Uyohlala usinda nje ngoba awubonwa muntu, ukuba kuthiwa ubukhuluma phambi kwabantu ubuzoyikhotha imbenge yomile. Sengicela ukwehla ngobona, yimi owakho maddie, nalo ikheli ngenhla.
Reply from: inquisitive Sunday, June 21, 2009 00:21 AM
thank you Best Achiever for setting Maddie straight abt wt d bible actually says. pple r really tryn 2justify homosexuality, dt ey r evn goin as far as twisting d bible, n tryn 2include historic legends in it all, STOP IT. God created man AND woman, 2b 2gta, NOT man n woman, then man n man, n woman n woman, nt too good wit my bible nemre bt i knw it says smtng lyk dt smwre, BA wil help me.

Guys really, if u blv in gays n lesbo's, fine! bt dnt twist d bible n history 2try n sway others into believing it too.

"like i said before, our generation is do driven with sexual immorality to such an extend that we turn everything to be about sex "
Reply from: VusiK Sunday, June 21, 2009 06:39 AM
MADDIE!!! Pedi Kings never interacted with Shaka Sotho Kings never interacted with Shaka .... The Zulus could not overcome the Sothos because the Sothos overwhelmed them back with Rocks from a great and overwhelming height! Shaka could not have been gay .... Homosexuality, like rape was punishable by death in Zululand during Shaka's time ... Creflo must have been blazing because there's no such story in the book ... It is Lot's daughters who got him drunk and squeezed his Quimm in order to have children .... want to talk incest ... let's go at it, but Shaka gay, interacting with Sotho and Pedi Kings, and Lot's Homo-incestuous son .... Methinks you also be blazing!!!
Reply from: VusiK Sunday, June 21, 2009 06:51 AM
I Hit a `cow today on the way home!!! (SOB!)
Reply from: Floh Sunday, June 21, 2009 07:39 AM
Hha Vusi inkomo pho, be careful, next time socula amagugu.
Reply from: Floh Sunday, June 21, 2009 07:42 AM
Maddie ngizwa ngiphuka umoya, inhliziyo yami ishona phansi ngalento osilobela yona. UShaka uneminyaka engamakhulu-khulu alala................wena uzokhuluma ngaye kanje...........uzovuka emangcwabeni akubhokode ngomkhonto.
Reply from: Toodecent Sunday, June 21, 2009 09:03 AM
Ga wa disrespecta opa fa , wa ipoletsa wena mos?
Reply from: Green.arrow Sunday, June 21, 2009 09:25 AM
Sweetmilk17...... i husstled my way thru ur response as i am not  zulu...nd i manged to limp read it thru (God bless my zulu frnd 4 teaching me)......and it was very informative...this is what i hoped wud happen....

What u saying i  kinda relate with what was depicted in shaka zulu the series...(regarding shaka's anger to the people 4 hlukumezing his mom nd them etc etc)
i remember it appeald to my opinion about society too much....in that we (society) usually create the monsters we live in.......

And u r ryt....there r many versions about our history....but knowing is empowering, we just have to be wise nd try to dcern the truth from all that we hear....
Reply from: nondatshaza Sunday, June 21, 2009 16:28 PM
hehehehe huwow divide me mandohlulwe, ndiske ndazbuz ba if bekthetwa ngo mzuklwana ka sandile bekzoliwa leway na ngama xhosa. If bekthetwa ngo zwelithin bekzothwani
Reply from: monwy Sunday, June 21, 2009 17:04 PM
I really dnt think that there were any gay characters in the bible...lets not confuse things here...

Reply from: monwy Sunday, June 21, 2009 17:06 PM
Ushaka was as straight as a dead horse...noko umntu of dat character can't be gay...its like saying Khaphela is gay,lol
Reply from: VusiK Sunday, June 21, 2009 17:07 PM
@Floh ... It shook and stirred me, this thing was invisible until I was on it. I swerved a klapped it dead with the left of the car ... now I must repair may car this week ... Damn!!! Cows kill cars, Cars Kill People, ... I almost got killed by a cow but I got it before it got me .... Yebo ... Inkomo eshaya i-stroll ngo 3:30 ekuseni. Ngizoqala ukukhola ngobuthakathi nje-ngo Shaka wesitabane .... Ubuthutha banki Loku!
Reply from: VusiK Sunday, June 21, 2009 17:11 PM
@monwy The bible is riddled with homos ... start from the first line in genesis, follow through till the last word in revelations ... should take a chink of your life ... and youll find plenty homos in there.
Reply from: monwy Sunday, June 21, 2009 17:26 PM
m not a christian and know how its like being gay and stuff but i still have my questions though... 

i had a problem with David being Johathan's friends...they were too close and Jonathan was even bring him food on the mountains after uDavid exoshiwe nguKumkani which is Jonathan's old man....

d sodom and gomorah scares my ass off..

but still i dnt wanna believe anything except for christ;;;;why does God hate homosexuality so much......?
Reply from: Brown Shuga Sunday, June 21, 2009 17:52 PM
Shaka is in the Bible??? Which verse??
Reply from: VusiK Sunday, June 21, 2009 18:13 PM
ROLFMBAO Shaka in the Bible .... That verse!!!
Reply from: VusiK Sunday, June 21, 2009 18:16 PM
@ Monwy ... If you believe in Christ ... You're Christian ... I don't know why God Hates Homos ... As long their in front of me in a line ... They can do whatever with the guy in front of Them!!!
Reply from: Ms. Jay Monday, June 22, 2009 09:10 AM
Shaka is in the Bible??? Which verse??

ask Maddie, her version has him in there kwakwakwakwakwa
Monwy ... If you believe in Christ ... You're Christian ... I don't know why God Hates Homos ..becoz it goes against CREATION, man and man or woman and woman cant pro-create, God is about creation,
Reply from: awelani Monday, June 22, 2009 09:18 AM
Haibo, Shaka is in the Bible???  which testament?? the newest testament?
Reply from: Matha Monday, June 22, 2009 09:29 AM
Oh my GOD,,,Shaka is in the Bible??? hope Jesus didn’t hear that.
Reply from: Ms. Jay Monday, June 22, 2009 10:43 AM
Matha - he heard it already - talk about defamation of the bible..........which testament - the 2009 one awelani.....written under the inspiration of desiring a good article on TVSA
Reply from: Best-Achiever Monday, June 22, 2009 10:48 AM

where did you guys read that Shaka was in the bible, because maddie didnt say that?

Reply from: cleve Monday, June 22, 2009 10:51 AM
Nami, BA I'm trying to see who said that Shaka was in the bible...........
Reply from: awelani Monday, June 22, 2009 10:54 AM
lol Ms Jay,,,
Reply from: Ms. Jay Monday, June 22, 2009 11:12 AM
BA - BS was teasing her.......
Reply from: Best-Achiever Monday, June 22, 2009 11:15 AM
ok Ms Jay, i was so confused there
Reply from: maddie Monday, June 22, 2009 11:18 AM
@sweetmilk

ngiyabonga for the insight sweetmilk.

kodwa why amaZulu bathanda ukushayana? just asking nje cos a lot of people were wanting to beat me up.




Reply from: TheLady Monday, June 22, 2009 11:27 AM
LOL-engabe bakushayile yazi ubuzoyithola impendulo.
Reply from: TheLady Monday, June 22, 2009 11:29 AM
hmm-I need to trace my roots-why didn't I want ukukushaya?
Reply from: Best-Achiever Monday, June 22, 2009 11:44 AM
yiwaphi amaZulu afune ukukushaya manje maddie, hhayi nawe engathi uyaluthanda uchuku
Reply from: maddie Monday, June 22, 2009 11:52 AM
what is uchuku BA, am lost a bit
Reply from: Matha Monday, June 22, 2009 12:00 PM
I think uchuku is a train im not sure!!
Reply from: cleve Monday, June 22, 2009 12:02 PM
think uchuku is a train im not sure!!

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!
kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa!!!!!!!!!
Reply from: felfel Monday, June 22, 2009 12:03 PM
I think uchuku is a train im not sure!!     LMAO!!!!!!
Reply from: cleve Monday, June 22, 2009 12:03 PM
think uchuku is a train im not sure!!

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!
kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa!!!!!!!!!
Reply from: cleve Monday, June 22, 2009 12:03 PM
think uchuku is a train im not sure!!

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!
kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa!!!!!!!!!
Reply from: Zah000 Monday, June 22, 2009 12:05 PM
kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa!!!! ROTLMBAO!!!! Oh hhay nkosi!!!!
Reply from: Best-Achiever Monday, June 22, 2009 12:18 PM
Nuisance  maddie...
Reply from: maddie Monday, June 22, 2009 12:30 PM
ha BA, how can say that, am hurt , hi hi hi am crying now Mzalwane
Reply from: Best-Achiever Monday, June 22, 2009 12:36 PM
angithi maddie doing everything you know how to get into us or irritate us ...kanti what do they call that?
Reply from: awelani Monday, June 22, 2009 12:37 PM
I think uchuku is a train im not sure..Bhuaaaaaaaaaaaaa,, i love this place,, train pho?? CTFU
Reply from: Ch0cl8berri Monday, June 22, 2009 12:38 PM
Tjo,shame maddie if you want to apply for iblogging leave,please dear I've got the forms for you...before o jewa ke batho... Lol...shaka gay?....if I remember correctly uShaka on backstage was gay,maybe maddie o bua ka yena tlhe...
Reply from: Amza Monday, June 22, 2009 16:45 PM
if I remember correctly uShaka on backstage was gay,maybe maddie o bua ka yena tlhe...

Kwakwakwakwakwa..................Lol
Reply from: Sweetmilk17 Friday, July 03, 2009 02:36 AM
AmaZulu awathandi ukushayana Maddie, alwa nje uma uwasukela.
Reply from: cleve Monday, July 06, 2009 13:35 PM
I'm still LOL @ this article.
Reply from: Best-Achiever Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:28 AM
maddie my friend.. did you managed to get that extracy by Creflo Dollar?
Reply from: BigMama Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:40 AM
Hahahaha, maddie, do you have any proof to this?
Reply from: cleve Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:51 AM
Guys please leave this article alone!!!!!!!!!! tltltltltltltlt!!!!!!!! Just controversy
Reply from: Mafresh Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:15 PM
I cant stop LOLing at this, Maddie nka se o lebale. This is surely JOKE_OF_THE_YEAR mo TVSA
Reply from: Krazy boss Saturday, September 05, 2009 03:17 AM
Probably shaka was gay who knws we dnt knw that he myt av bin gay n that he knew abt it n hid it by becum dis so called fearsum warrior
Reply from: BigMama Tuesday, December 22, 2009 13:49 PM
Hehehehehe, Joke of the Decade l tell you.
Reply from: BigMama Tuesday, December 22, 2009 13:52 PM
l just wonder how much of a gay was Shaka. Phela most of the gays are so soft spoken and they just seem so fragile unlike the lesbians.
Reply from: mstick Tuesday, December 22, 2009 14:02 PM

Thanks BM i never got a chance to read the whole article and the responses let me do now...lol

Reply from: BigMama Tuesday, December 22, 2009 14:20 PM
This article, l just keep reading it over and over again and l start laughing all over again as if its new.
Reply from: ms.tebby Tuesday, December 22, 2009 14:23 PM
Reply from: Brown Shuga 6/21/2009 11:52:52 PM
Shaka is in the Bible??? Which verse?? 

Reply from: VusiK 6/22/2009 12:13:23 AM 
ROLFMBAO Shaka in the Bible .... That verse!!! 

eish BigM i laughed over & over & im still laughing @ this!
Reply from: mstick Tuesday, December 22, 2009 14:23 PM
kwa kwa kwa kwa huuuuuuuuuuwwiwiwiwi....hey ja neh TVSA???
Reply from: mstick Tuesday, December 22, 2009 14:43 PM
I almost got killed by a cow but I got it before it got me .... Yebo ... Inkomo eshaya i-stroll ngo 3:30 ekuseni. Ngizoqala ukukhola ngobuthakathi nje-ngo Shaka wesitabane .... Ubuthutha banki Loku!

Triple LOL
Reply from: madleza Tuesday, December 22, 2009 14:53 PM
i think maddie she is just curious like any other person who want to know
Apparently there's some evidence that Shaka Zulu was also gay if shaka didn't have any children or wife this might mean that he was a gay 

green arrow help me on this one if i am wrong 
in a pedi culture when a king died of disease or killed from a battle we don't
actually say it straight that what killed the king we can say mabu a utswitswe or morena o tsere ke phiri and i think this of kgosi sekhukhune killed by potatoes come from there
Kgosi Sekhukhune is the dude who killed by potato????
Reply from: BigMama Tuesday, December 22, 2009 14:59 PM
@madleza.....As for children maybe the guy was infertile, and the wife because he was a soldier he did not get time to marry.

l would like to see the concrete evidence then l will believe that the Zulu warrior was indeed gay.
Reply from: madleza Tuesday, December 22, 2009 15:19 PM
for the above response i mistankenly press the reply button

you know what maddie you just remind me of my high school days the was thi friend of mine he will asked me who is the first person in the eart i will say adam and he will said is not adam. (and he will again ask me adam obe a dula kae ? then kere ko serapeng sa eden. he will say then eden is the first person thats why adam lived on his land  

i think maddie she is just curious like any other person who want to know
Apparently there's some evidence that Shaka Zulu was also gay if shaka didn't have any children or wife this might mean that he was a gay if not then why fuck the soldiers and we all know that this kind of things in our cultures are disgrace if may be u nkosi shaka do it in public and marry a men he might have been killed or dethroned

green arrow help me on this one if i am wrong 
Kgosi Sekhukhune is the dude who killed by potato????
in a pedi culture when a king died of disease or killed from a battle we don't actually we don't  say  straight  what killed the king  we can say (mabu a utswitswe or morena o tsere ke phiri and i think this of kgosi sekhukhune killed by potatoes come from there they didn't want to be specific of what killed the bapedi king and the y were so clever b'coz even today people still believe tha he was killed by potato) 

Queen Modjadji the Rain Queen and her many wives and the Bapedi people always defend her lesbianism i think queen modjadji
she is not lesbian it is the culture of balobedu nation that they are ruled by queens not kings and those women in the palace are queens advisory the one who decide who amongst the men in the kingdom shall come and be the queens partner  and give her the baby/heir
 
  
Reply from: doug Tuesday, February 09, 2010 17:34 PM
Of course he was gay!
All the symptoms are there.
An insatiable obcession with his mother Nandi, he hated his father, he was never married, he never fathered a child, he never allowed his impi`s to marry until almost old age(remember that life expectancy was a lot lower than today) and the only person to ever share his sleeping quaters was a young white Scotsman named Robert Moffat. 
This is all documented by the Scandinavian missionaries who lived in Shaka`s kraal during that time.
Oh yes he also had a treacherous mind.
Reply from: Nqebhe Wednesday, February 10, 2010 18:44 PM
What a load of bull! King Shaka- gay? Maddie, where is this this so called evidence that the King was gay?  And Doug, where might one find this documentation you write of. The King did father a child but it was still-born, so get your facts straight and stop spreading nonsensical propaganda- it's immature and disrespectful. Shame on you!
Reply from: Tiger_Zuma Saturday, February 27, 2010 21:53 PM
I'm not married, I don't have any kids, I love my mother to bits. Quite sadly I can't say the same about my father. DAMN, I DIDN'T KNOW I'M GAY!
Reply from: mfokozana Friday, July 22, 2011 00:16 AM
If he was homosexual that is fine.......a lot of males out there in Africa live lives in hell hiding the truth about their sexuality...Zulu spent a lot of time with beautiful young men, there is not a single record of him even attempting a relationship with a female..he did not have to be gay,,,the guy was horny.thats that...
Reply from: caro Friday, July 22, 2011 10:43 AM

 I am from ga- modjadjie myself, i grew up there and went to high school (masalanabo) the then known and only boarding school around bolobedu.

 i have to agree with you best achiever there are " servants " at the royal home, they are not called wifes they are like personal assistants to the queen. remember its odd to meet the queen with a bucketful of water over her head coz fectching water was part of the chores that women wud perfom bac then.

on the issue of children, the royal family wud choose someone from the famiy or heir clan to bear children with the queen in order to keep the royal blood. remember the royal queen shud be  of theroyal      blood djadji clan     issoo huge.

 i dn know of this lesbian nonsense

i think you shud js go bac to ur source to confirm the facts coz this tym around ur blufin... sory to say dt cudnt hold it bac.

Reply from: inkosazana Friday, July 22, 2011 12:32 PM
Luckily this article eya 2009 , ngabe sengikuthumele ngezulu ngoba angikwaz uhlalaph, ukube bengazi ebezongena amabutho ........uyahlambalaza...nxxxx

lemme tell you this uShaka waye ngasiyo ikokoni, unesbindi ukukhuluma kanjalo wemfana/ntombazana, i am from kwa zulu natal in a town called KwaDukuza (some call it Stanger, it was named after William Stanger but then official changed to Dukuza because ila kukhonakhona isthe lika Shaka and that is ikhaya lika Shaka) abanye bazo ngifakazela ukuth every mhlaka 24 September umgubho ka Shaka uba kwaDukuza, and that is in the North of Durban 

Well my office is a walking distance away from intshe lika Shaka , anyone can go there anytime uthanda ukwaz umlando ngo Shaka and not anywhere it is written or it proves he was gay, so that is just bull S%$@T ............WENA NTOMBAZANE /MFANA GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE UVULE ISIPEPE SAKHO
Reply from: Sana Lwam Friday, July 22, 2011 12:56 PM
Haw" inkosazana ungade ubile sisi wam wayezibuzela nje umaddie

tltltltltlt
Reply from: inkosazana Friday, July 22, 2011 12:59 PM
@ Sana Lwam , yha neh uyohamba asinde
Reply from: VusiK Friday, July 22, 2011 13:32 PM
Yah neh ...

Everybodyy is bored ...

Someone write an article please ....

and

Not a Sis Dolly Article ... I'm Dollied out!
Reply from: andi01 Friday, July 22, 2011 15:13 PM
In some cases, feelings put aside. When a man sleeps with other man, it is seen as the sign of superiority to the cuplrit. While the victim is seen to be losing his manhood if he is raped by another. Like in jail, the gang leader will rape others to make himself respected and feared. We dont know what Shakas orientation was, but maybe his, sleeping with his soldiers (if true), it was his way of showing them who is the greatest. And even if he was gay, thats nothing we can be angry about. Gays are also our brothers and like it or not they were created by God. They are sinners, like all of us.
Reply from: Scottishzulu Tuesday, August 27, 2013 13:07 PM
There stories in the Bible that are confusing tho ...if Adam and Eve gave birth to two sons,Cain and Abel,how was huminity carried forward..? Who were their wives,who birth them?
Reply from: nicodymus Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:36 PM
Oh guys, guys, the man was gay. Where on earth have u heard of an African chief without a wife? African Kings and Chiefs had wives, some up-to 500 of them. the man was gay, finish and klaar!!!!! That's why he was so cruel, he was frustrated, he couldn't express his sexuality.. and we know that he tried to have a heterosexual relationship just to cover up, hence he killed or threatened to kill his newly born son 'cos he couldn't stand himself as a father. His best friend Mzilikazi broke ranks with him after realizing that he is gay, and he wouldn't have a gay king. Dingaan killed him, cos they had discovered that he was gay and it was an embarrassment to have a king with no wife, who is bonking men. Some men that he killed it was because they had turned his advances down.. the man was gay bo!!!!
Reply from: nicodymus Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:38 PM
As for Adam and Eve... the boys pro-created with their mother...
Reply from: nicodymus Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:41 PM
As for queen Modjadji, the original Modjadji was lesbian, so it became tradition for the queens to marry other women after the first Modjadji.. they have to learn to be gay cos of tradition...
Reply from: nicodymus Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:41 PM
Ian Khama is gay, no questions asked...
 



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