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Youth Day / What does it mean to you?

Written by Jah Lady from the blog Youth Day on 02 Jun 2009
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I have a question  for the bloggers in bloggywood but it needs a moment of thought and honesty to ones self.

And many of you will be thinking this before you give me a straight answer to my question.

(This is what will be in your mind after reading my question)
"I will be out partying or maybe even hung ova.
I will be at home chilling with my friends drinking away a storm... yay,"


WHAT DOES JUNE 16 MEAN TO YOU?

And before you give me the above answers think about it carefully.   What is June 16, What happened on June 16, how will I remember  the youth of June 16 and what am I doing to commemorate the youth that stood up for what they believed in?


Yeah I know, I know what you thinking right now (she is being too deep or she is being a tad bit cliché) but I'm actually being serious.
I mean youth day is about remembering the past....... but it also represents a turning point for South Africa and yes................ we as the youth of 2009, are that turning point but in order for us to be that point we need to understand our history to place a firm foundation of our future.

So before you give me an explanation just take a few minutes to think about it.

Take urself back to that day (even though you were not there) but place urself in their shoes and once you have an answer to my question (WHAT DOES JUNE 16 MEAN TO YOU) entice me.




316 Comments

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 15:04

I will be working

myname
02 Jun 2009 15:14

Its means we should drink & groova til sunset babes.....just joking dear!

I always celebrate with my family. My cousin & my aunt were born on this day so its mmore lyk a family day kithi.

But while back we used 2 wear uniforms at work just 2 pay respect to abafi.

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 15:23

I like the uniform idea..............

But dnt u think ppl are not honouring the day......

Lately it is about to groova till the sunsets........... just my opinion.

myname
02 Jun 2009 15:38

Eish man its sad but its the way ingakhona. Its all about boozing.

Have u seen Pretoria youth? (Askis im also staying there bt i realise something lately so im part of them) Nor casting the stone LOL

Friday & Sat we groove wayawaya but mazithi Sunday.....we r all dressed up for church. 


Mathaz
02 Jun 2009 15:38

Today's youth does not honour anything but then again we have to blame the ruling party for they think that to attract the youth you have to have some sort of bash.  I always think of Tsietsi Mashinini and Vuyiswa (the guy who was carrying Hector Peterson), I still wonder what happened to him.

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 15:42

@Mathaz

I think Vuyiswa was found dead or something like that, but instead of keeping the spirit alive and standing our ground on becoming better youth we just stand our ground on who is buying the next round of drinks.

One and Only
02 Jun 2009 15:43

To be honest with you this day has no meaning and insignificant to me, don't get me wrong I tried to understand but my ignorancy failed me. Maybe someone will educate me more about it.

According to my knowledge the government wanted to introduce Afrikaans as a medium of communication in black schools. Afrikaans and English was gonna be used on the 50/50 basis, what's the big deal?

I honestly believe that they wasted their time and died for nothing, I would honour them and call them heroes if they had died fighting for isiZulu, isiXhosa, isiTswana etc to be used as medium of communication in our schools.

My analysis is that innocent children were used by some forces to fight their own battles and agenda against the government of the time.



Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 15:44

@myname

Don't be ashamed I think many of us are seduced into partying like freaks and when its sunday we sit in church with hang ova's are at times we don't even wake up to go to church.

And its not only Pretoria, even Jozi has those ppl who party like rock stars on fri and sat.

Cande
02 Jun 2009 15:49

OMW 1& Only..hahahha you have a mind of your own yazi

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 15:50

@One and only

I will forgive because in the begining u do state that maybe u are ill informed.

In which yes u were...........

They were not only fighting for the language itself but other things as well but in my opinion the whole afrikaans thing was the last straw.

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 15:51

@Cande

What do you think?

Mathaz
02 Jun 2009 15:52

Afrikaans and English was gonna be used on the 50/50 basis, what's the big deal? 

What's the big deal????  The big deal is that Afrikaans is not out mother tongue and it was imposed on us. I mean why give priority to a language that is understood by the Dutch.


Molilo
02 Jun 2009 15:52

Eish youth month really opened wounds that were healed. I lost a boyfriend last year in July,  yesterday in the news when they spoke of it I cried I remembered him. He was a youth leader and was very active during youth month. I thought of him and what he would be doing this month. I really wonder what is going to happen to me come 06/07

Sana Lwam
02 Jun 2009 15:53

kwa kwa kwa @ One & Only? Uyandicaza ndoda........in a weird way

myname
02 Jun 2009 15:53

I honestly believe that they wasted their time and died for nothing,

Oh Goddddd 1 & Only. LOL

One and Only
02 Jun 2009 16:00

Please do educate me Jah Lady about the other things they were fighting for because the main thing that comes into your mind when you see June 16 is Afrikaans.

Why were they not marching against the use of English because I honestly do not see the difference between an English men and Afrikaners, they both regard a black person worthless.

Nowadays no one is forcing Blacks to speak Afrikaans but the old timers that are speaking it in the township are regarded clever and street-wise and some companies when adverising positions are still saying they want someone who is bilingual meaning fluent in English and Afrikaans.

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 16:01

You know what 

@one and only
If we were forced to speak italian or even spanish and we were told to just take it  in .......without being opinionated about it how would you feel?

I mean......................................
You know what let me not get all emotional and angry 

Cande
02 Jun 2009 16:01

Honestly i dont know heah Jah Lady, to me it means its a public holiday and i dont get to go to work and i wake up late and hopefully drink some booze.hahah..OK i think i get 1&Only and where he is coming from. I mean this days when ur kid is doin their mother tongue @ school its seem strange, and when they doing English & Afrikaans then its cool.

Brown Shuga
02 Jun 2009 16:01

Well said Yena Yedwa!!!! The only thing that comes to mind when I hear June 16 is Hector Petersen, Bantu education, dying youths & Peter Mokaba.

dali
02 Jun 2009 16:05

don't get me wrong I tried to understand but my ignorancy failed me............ your ignorance ALWAYS fails u my dear frend. dont mean to sound racist but r u black,indian, chinese, or white?

Brown Shuga
02 Jun 2009 16:06

Bathong Dali, who said that? Lol

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 16:08

Guys don't look at it in a sort of language kind of way (even though it was part of the June 16 uprising)

But look at it in a way of those youth were able to get together and fight for what they believed in. I m how all was Hector Peterson?  Boys his age are in a hurry to have sex and attend their first street bash.

I mean, if 80% of SA youth, had to hear that SAB (South African Breweries) was closing down they would start their own 2009 uprising against beer!
And looking back would be our children and their childrens childrens and say "I dont see the big deal,".
Instead of making stand against HIV/AIDS, we are too busy preoccupied with other less important things.

So my point is the youth of '76 had bigger balls than the youth of today!

*Nuff said.

myname
02 Jun 2009 16:09

LOL no LMAOVL tl tl tl 2 BS

Im sure she is on the wrong blog hahahahaha

felfel
02 Jun 2009 16:10

First of all even the teachers who were going to be teaching those students in Afrikaans didn't know the language themselves so it was obvious they were doomed to fail before the bell even rang, and beyond that there was political turmoil in the country so the whole 'afrikaans as a medium of instruction' introduction was just a catalyst to all the violence that ensued on June 16.

1 & only, u dont have to acknowledge them if u dont want to but don't undermine their fight and their struggle.

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 16:10

@Dali

Good  question 


Brown Shuga
02 Jun 2009 16:11

myname, I think she mistook this for the Bonang Brutal/ truth blog lol

TheLady
02 Jun 2009 16:14

There isn't a specific holiday that I 'celebrate'-yes I get excited about not going to the office-but you won't see me going to some gathering...

June 16-I know some black kids died fighting not to be taught in Afrikaans..I know it..I just don't get excited that it's une 16...I'm happy that it is a holiday...and yes I booz like it's nobody's business.

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 16:14

@Brown suga


Lol I think so too

Suzilicious
02 Jun 2009 16:14

When i think of June 16, Ooh another holiday is coming. Will be sleeping the whole day

One and Only
02 Jun 2009 16:15

English and Afrikaans are business languages in South Africa whatever your opinion is about these two you will speak them like it or not. If you don't comply it then limits your chances of climbing the corporate ladder.

Mozambicans are speaking Portuguese not because they like it but because of the people who are controlling money there.

My observation again is that soon here in SA we are gonna be forced to speak Arab as Muslims are slowly starting to own most of the big companies, every big restaurant you go to nowadays is Halaal compliant, in the workplace Muslims are allowed to go to their praying meetings and also have separate toilets. 

Most blacks now only use their mother tongue when dreaming because they don't have control over it, they don't say eish anymore but eina when it hurt somewhere.

dali
02 Jun 2009 16:17

no im tokin to yena ntsena... eish u guys r slow shame

Pooky
02 Jun 2009 16:17

LMAO i love that you so opinionated 1&0

Brown Shuga
02 Jun 2009 16:18

"Most blacks now only use their mother tongue when dreaming because they don't have control over it, they don't say eish anymore but eina when it hurt somewhere." One And Only, 2009.

CLASSIC kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa

Cande
02 Jun 2009 16:18

Most blacks now only use their mother tongue when dreaming because they don't have control over it>>>>>>>bwahahahhahaha

myname
02 Jun 2009 16:20

I feel u Pokzin....he's one hell of a character!

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 16:20

@TheLady


and....................... let me guess you proud of it.


I'm not saying celebrate but acknowledge the day.

So that you can teach ur kids, and grandkids. 
And yes it was a bunch of black kids fighting to be taught in their mother tongue not in some dudes language who came in a ship and dominated.

Mathaz
02 Jun 2009 16:21

they don't say eish anymore but eina when it hurt somewhere.  tl tl tl tl you just like being controverail, can you please answer Dali's question.

zolx
02 Jun 2009 16:23

My observation again is that soon here in SA we are gonna be forced to speak Arab as Muslims  - hahahaha i hope if that happens i'll be six feet under.

Most blacks now only use their mother tongue when dreaming - kanti how's it supposed to be. Isnt the thinking process also in your vernac before you can even talk?

Cande
02 Jun 2009 16:24

but Jah lady how many kids still learn their mother tongue in school? Nna i will teach my kids that their grandparents fought against Afrikaans and 30 decades later everyone wanted their children to do the language again.

dali
02 Jun 2009 16:26

im still to come across sum1 that says eina instead of eish exactly where do u stay yena ntsena

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 16:26

@One and only

So what are u saying.............. 4get our mother tongue and move on to wats fashionable to speak?

So if we were told to speak Arab, Im guessing u were going to sit back and exept it..........rite?

Damn dude ur a classic kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa

U inspire me to be a better thinker.

maud
02 Jun 2009 16:26

thats all the reason you came to work with your siphandla- its called friendly enviroment or accomodating office. you can call it human right if you like
they really did pave the ways for us. we should appreciate, 
at this moment am chatting with you guys, it wouldnt have happened if they never fought for their rights.

i always play sarafina or Misissipi burning for my family on the 16th just to remind them where we came from.

vallie
02 Jun 2009 16:27

Most blacks now only use their mother tongue when dreaming because they don't have control over it, they don't say eish anymore but eina when it hurt somewhere. kwa kwa kwa. its so good to have you back one and only

Cande
02 Jun 2009 16:28

watz burning for the family maud?

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 16:29

@Dali


Yeah where do u live exactly?

Cuz when I get hurt I don't say "oooh my ma!"  I still say "mama yho"!

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 16:31

@1 nd only

ur parents must be proud of u.

maud
02 Jun 2009 16:32

@Cande its a movie wena man
@BS- sala nabo qabane lam,ngisayo khuluma isilungu

Brown Shuga
02 Jun 2009 16:33

LOL Maud, asibashiye no cande tl tltl Bye!

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 16:35

GUYS



Sleep on it and lets continue tomorrow!

carino
02 Jun 2009 16:35

My observation again is that soon here in SA we are gonna be forced to speak Arab as Muslims are slowly starting to own most of the big companies, every big restaurant you go to nowadays is Halaal compliant, in the workplace Muslims are allowed to go to their praying meetings and also have separate toilets. 

heheheheheh... *shaking my head* nc nc nc  WenaFela, you've got a hyperactive imagination, nhe..

Most blacks now only use their mother tongue when dreaming because they don't have control over it, they don't say eish anymore but eina when it hurt somewhere.

kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa LOL

TheLady
02 Jun 2009 16:38

Jah Lady-I know what June  16 is all about-just like I know about August 9...My kids will learn about it at school-I wasn't there, so yeah-they'll read books just like I did...

It's a holiday-I looooooooooove holidays.

myname
02 Jun 2009 16:39

bye guys

Thanks 2 da Author & 2 u too 1 & only. You know how 2 shake the house.

Gudnyt people

Cande
02 Jun 2009 16:43

and a holiday comes with boozing wena TL..hahah if i was not on standby that week i would have taken the 15th off and enjoyed my long weekend.

TheLady
02 Jun 2009 16:45

Uyazi nawe Cande...what's up comrade? It's a holiday we support SAB nabo Distell...nama butcheries aseduze.

Cande
02 Jun 2009 16:47

sisonke TL, so it means then on the 16th of December people should reconcile

Msoe
02 Jun 2009 16:48

Im so very dissappointed at some of you. June 16 is supposed to be a day where we remember our black brothers who died fighting for the oppression of who they were, their velues, the discrimination and ukubukulwa kolwimi lwabo bephoqwa ngenkani ukuthi bafunde nge-afrikaans yize kungelona ulimi lwabo ukuze amabhunu abacindezele kahle. Yes maybe it was the language that through them to their limits but they stood up and said enough is enough and we would die first before we are forced to fail in school on top of the discrimination we get outside of school.

I salute them because I know for a fact that God doesnt make youth like that anymore. All the youth of today know is getting drunk, having sex, drugs and acting as if someone owes them something.

TheLady
02 Jun 2009 16:52

So what do we do to show that we remember them? Come now I think about them when I'm holding my savanna during the week emini...

"so it means then on the 16th of December people should reconcile" LOL

monchooza
02 Jun 2009 16:54

June 16 means nothing to me too (its just a day to get drunk and wear school uniform).....It would mean something they day the Black youth of today fights our government to recognise and use our african languages the way they use english...

they say we have 11 official languages.....mina i still  see english as an official language.

which is why our african schools still teach in english instead of using the language that the students speak. thats why the youth of today cant even speak their home languages perfect but they speak english perfect...

Kuphi ukuziqhenya ngolwimi lwethu njengendlu emnyama???

all my friends dont know the months of the year in their Hoome languages, and yet they say them very fast in english baze bathwenge...

people know very big words in english which they cant even translate to their home language,

until we fight for our own languages asiyindawo njengendlu ensundu..

Msoe
02 Jun 2009 16:55

The Lady you are hopeless....LMFAO

Toodecent
02 Jun 2009 16:58

It means nothing to me.... just a day when a couple of black kids decided to go on a riot and years after they called hereos. It was uncalled for in the first place for kids to behave in that manner....  i could still be in Bophutatswana now le Kgosi yame Mangope...damn!

mstick
02 Jun 2009 16:58

Most blacks now only use their mother tongue when dreaming because they don't have control over it, they don't say eish anymore but eina when it hurt somewhere.

For the first time you actually killed me dead with ur line 1&only

Cande
02 Jun 2009 17:01

LOL@ TDC OMFW hahahhahahhaha kwakwakwkakwkwkwkakkwkwkakw kwkaka hahahhahahhahahahha *phew* let me go home before i break my ribs

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 17:03

So wat are u guys saying................

F....... Nelson Mandela
F........Steve Biko
F....... Hector Peterson?


and all the others that stood up 4 us.

Jah Lady
02 Jun 2009 17:05

I don't mean to sound like I'm too emotional


But I'm hurt by all these comments.

Green.arrow
02 Jun 2009 17:25

Wwwoe...the commnents are taking my breath away.....in a not so comfortable way...but im gon leave it at that...

Most blacks now only use their mother tongue when dreaming .....my mom says she hears me dreaming in english.....and i believe she's right...and i hate myself for that....

But one thing i believe in...is that vereything happnes for a reaosn...even the things that weredone with the worst of intentions, so instead of dwelling on how bad english or afriikans is...i ma glad i will be able to survive in this world bcos i understand them...and God knows we are living in a globe now,not juts good old little SA.
I need to polis up my Afrikaans bcos in my line of work...it is the langunage of communication in the boardroom......even if u ask that it not be spoken, they will say the non important issues in english...and elaborate to themselves later in afrikaans....plus they plot and gossip...i need to hear all that...

June 16..a very important event to me......and i can honestly declare that i dont just remember nor commemorate the day only on the 16th......(what does that mean anyway on a practical basis?)

Green.arrow
02 Jun 2009 17:30

...aksies Jah Lady...for the record, some of the comments scared me too.....i also do bvelie that the afrikaans thing was just that catalyst that made the people, particularly the studenst go volatile......and i appreciate that they did.....and in their small way...they contributed to where I am today and to hwo I am today in so many ways....

Brown Shuga
02 Jun 2009 17:34

Jah Lady, sori love bt u asked what it meant to us, batsho ke ooYENA YEDWA noo TDC! Lol

Green.arrow
02 Jun 2009 17:40

batsho ke oo YENA YEDWA noo TDC.....i love this oo thing in conversation hle BS...i hope i pickd it up ryt...think i was zulu in my past life... 

FK
02 Jun 2009 18:45

The uprising was not only about Afrikaans

In 1953 the Apartheid Government enacted The Bantu Education Act, which established a Black Education Department in the Department of Native Affairs. The role of this department was to compile a curriculum that suited the "nature and requirements of the black people." The author of the legislation, Dr Hendrik Verwoerd (then Minister of Native Affairs, later Prime Minister), stated: "Natives [blacks] must be taught from an early age that equality with Europeans [whites] is not for them." Black people were not to receive an education that would lead them to aspire to positions they wouldn't be allowed to hold in society. Instead they were to receive education designed to provide them with skills to serve their own people in the homelands or to work in labouring jobs under whites.

This was found in this site - read more.  Very informative. 

http://africanhistory.about.com/library/weekly/aa060801a.htm

Reggie
02 Jun 2009 19:13

I for one dnt live in the past so it doesn't mean anything to me hence i am saying the past should remain in the past

FK
02 Jun 2009 19:17

Personally I don’t think the youth of 1976 fought and died for nothing. 

English and Afrikaans are business languages in South Africa whatever your opinion is about these two you will speak them like it or not. If you don't comply it then limits your chances of climbing the corporate ladder. 

1 & Only : Today, we find blacks holding positions and sitting in boards of companies which were pre dominantly Afrikaans. Eg the banking industry. And these very companies, the business language is no longer Afrikaans but English. I deal with these companies and once in a while you will find a communiqué written in Afrikaans of which I always respond in Sesotho, just to let them know that I can also communicate in my mother tongue, but for the sake of commonality, I use English.
Yes South Africa has 11 official languages however; I still need to come across someone who can speak all 11 languages.
Now the issue of our kids failing to speak our home languages is not the teachers fault. I blame the parent. Things have evolved and we also need to evolve with them but that does not mean we have to do away with who we are and where we come from. The schools are there to prepare our kids academically and we parents we need to also take our role in raising these kids. Imagine if this was left solely to the teachers? Which language would be given preference?

FK
02 Jun 2009 19:22

@ Jah Lady, I hear you and feel you big time.  As Reggie has stated, this is in the past.  What is the struggle of the youth in 2009?  Is it booze, drugs, promiscuity?  They need to find their own struggle.  The struggle of 1976 should just be a constant reminder that, Yes the youth of South Africa can be heard, can do something about challenges and make a difference.  They can't be riding in the back of 1976 forever while neglecting todays challenges.

mjj
02 Jun 2009 19:33

One and Only...............do you watch BIG BROTHER? I think you should enter this year as a SA contestant (if you r south african).................by the way....Cande and I waited for your PM with regards to the PSL Awards tickets.........

Brown Shuga
02 Jun 2009 19:44

<<<<What is the struggle of the youth in 2009? Is it booze, drugs, promiscuity? They need to find their own struggle. The struggle of 1976 should just be a constant reminder that, Yes the youth of South Africa can be heard, can do something about challenges and make a difference. They can't be riding in the back of 1976 forever while neglecting todays challenges.>>>>

I could NEVER have put it any better.

Best-Achiever
03 Jun 2009 07:41

It means i mustsubmit my leave form for the 15th, go home on the 12th and come back on the 16th, so it is extended wekkend for me.

Cande
03 Jun 2009 07:48

but Jah Lady you cannot expect everyone to see things your way, dont bring emotions into this coz we will never all agree on one thing..

TheLady
03 Jun 2009 08:39

Yes Jah Lady-we know what happened...I personally don't say F whoever died that day..I just appreciate the holiday...my appreciation of the holiday should be enough-what I do on the day shouldn't be anybody's business...abanye bethu njengami nje abasanelwa kayi nyumfoma yesikole

Now JL this is my opinion-you cannot force yours on me.
Anywa ywhat do you do on this day? Cry yourself a river coz you are thinking of Hector?

tha - bang
03 Jun 2009 08:39

lol? yell mense we do love to romanticise history nhe.I believe June16 just like April 27, Human rights Day and heritage day are reminders of our past and were we come from as a people and as a nation.What lesson you take from that past,its your own baby .But I belief the most important thing is what do we do with those lessons.We cant always be compared to a bygone generation that lived in a totally different world,but we can  be asked how are we implementing lessons learned from that past.
the issue of language for me is a very important one,but i believe its more ideologiacal than a bread and butter issue.but thats for me.
One of our biggest challenge now,is what impact and legacy will we pass down to the youths who will follow us.When they look back at our times,what would they say.1976 were the forerunners but the race of life continues,whats going to be the contribution to that race; are we going to be flag bearers,innovators or people who constantly look back and never move forward and complain yesterday was better than today.wat dink jy mense?

Best-Achiever
03 Jun 2009 08:47

Anywa ywhat do you do on this day? Cry yourself a river coz you are thinking of Hector?

kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa

dali
03 Jun 2009 08:49

lol thabang i've been speaking broken afrikaans since this morning i think this article inspired this...

Cande
03 Jun 2009 08:49

OMW TL, hahahhahhahha

Positivity1
03 Jun 2009 09:07

What is the struggle of the youth in 2009? Is it booze, drugs, promiscuity? They need to find their own struggle.>>> Interesting enough it was almost their legacy too until 1976 June 16. Ask anybody who live dthrough that time...booze and promiscuity was part of that era...maybe not drugs! 

Unfortunately We just picked on that and now it's our struggle! Every generation has it's struggles and sometimes they are not world shaking events that stop the struggle but they are still battles that in the long run, if won, produce a good foundation for the next!

I must say that people who seem at times intelligent on this forum have seriously dissapointed me! Why don't we as black people take the time to educate ourselves about our history! Why do we think it's someone's else duty to do that, while displaying our ignorance! Where's your responsibility?

Again some of you are parents and I'm sure that you kids speak English only! Who's fault is that??

Katlegom
03 Jun 2009 09:08

im still to come across sum1 that says eina instead of eish exactly where do u stay yena ntsena
i never heard anyone saying eina, instead i hear people say ouch!

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 09:10

@TL


I don't cry myself  a river I acknowledge the day and I sit back and think of the challenges of what the youth of 2009 are facing and what am I doing to change it.

Katlegom
03 Jun 2009 09:13

English and Afrikaans are business languages in South Africa whatever your opinion is about these two you will speak them like it or not. If you don't comply it then limits your chances of climbing the corporate ladder.
I dont think Afrikaans is a corporate language it is just used by Afrikaners to discriminate against us who cant understand it. English

Katlegom
03 Jun 2009 09:13

English and Afrikaans are business languages in South Africa whatever your opinion is about these two you will speak them like it or not. If you don't comply it then limits your chances of climbing the corporate ladder.
I dont think Afrikaans is a corporate language it is just used by Afrikaners to discriminate against us who cant understand it. English is

Katlegom
03 Jun 2009 09:13

English and Afrikaans are business languages in South Africa whatever your opinion is about these two you will speak them like it or not. If you don't comply it then limits your chances of climbing the corporate ladder.
I dont think Afrikaans is a corporate language it is just used by Afrikaners to discriminate against us who cant understand it. English is a

Katlegom
03 Jun 2009 09:13

English and Afrikaans are business languages in South Africa whatever your opinion is about these two you will speak them like it or not. If you don't comply it then limits your chances of climbing the corporate ladder.
I dont think Afrikaans is a corporate language it is just used by Afrikaners to discriminate against us who cant understand it. English is a corporate

Katlegom
03 Jun 2009 09:14

my bad guys

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 09:17

Look Im not forcing anyone to jump onto my ship and believe in what I believe in....


I was just asking a simple question of do u understand ur history and its quite clear that sum of u dnt because of the statements that u are sharing with us.

And anyway some believe in God, some in allah or even Shembe but its their choice, so.........................

it brings me back to what I said earlier "The youth of '76 have bigger balls of the youth of 2009"  

felfel
03 Jun 2009 09:19

i've never heard a black person saying 'eina', coloreds yes, even my nephews who have white and colored friends, say 'ouch' or 'shu' (which is xhosa).

i think 1 & only and shim's family are the ones who say 'eina' and now shim's looking for an Eina support group here mo tvsa,lol

Positivity1
03 Jun 2009 09:21

No Jah Lady they don't hence many of them are still riding on the wave of 76 rather than the battle of here and now, which is booze, etc!

monchooza
03 Jun 2009 09:28

People must just stop comparing the youth of 1976 and the youth of 2009.....ngoba vele its true asifani....most of the youth of 1976 did not have cars, houses, shares, own companies, etc...and the youth of today does have those things and even more..

the youth of 1976 was violent, thina we sit down and talk about it...lol

what i am trying to say is you cant expect someone who has it all to act like some one who does not

Molilo
03 Jun 2009 09:36

true that monchooza

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 09:40

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 09:47

U know what I am definately enticed!


Mafresh
03 Jun 2009 09:52

1 and only... U are and inspiration to me, u always make me think out of the factory that made the box. Now I have something to challenge the youth at our church, since i'll b MC'ing for them ka di 16.

The only thing left about my culture is my language. I will damn make sure that my kids can speak,read and write in my language. As well as make sure they understand where we come from.

vallie
03 Jun 2009 09:57

i couldnt agree with you more monchooza.  i know a lot of young people who are working and studying at the same time, supporting their parents and providing good education for their siblings, and have own cars and  houses.
 i think we doing ok as the youth even though we still have challenges that we need to overcome.

Positivity1
03 Jun 2009 09:59

Hawu Monchooza babe you are dissapointing me! I was just about to agree with you until you said this

most of the youth of 1976 did not have cars, houses, shares, own companies, etc...and the youth of today does have those things and even more.. >>>because the youth of 76 couldn't afford those things Monchooza and they fought that they would be afforded those opportunities! 


the youth of 1976 was violent, thina we sit down and talk about it...lol >>>Again I disagree look at the spade of stabbing to deaths that are happening at schools!

what i am trying to say is you cant expect someone who has it all to act like some one who does not >>> Who has it all exactly, us or them???

Sobza
03 Jun 2009 10:11

June 16, I will be @ church...celebrating Youth Day da christian way. Acknowledging God and thanking Him for the Youth of 1976 and making a way for the youth of today.

We will be having a motivational speaker,  and there will be a al concert filled with Christian music groups,  and shows are presented, and there are plenty of social events to attend. Some of the highlights we  will be urging young people to let them be shaped by God in order to be messengers of divine love, capable of building a future of hope for all humanity.

Youth is the time when decisive choices concerning the rest of our lives come to fruition.Perhaps this is why it is the time of life when fundamental questions assert themselves strongly: Why am I here on earth? What is the meaning of life? What will my life be like? And again: How can I attain happiness? Why is there suffering, illness and death? What lies beyond death? 

These are questions that become insistent when we are faced with obstacles that sometimes seem insurmountable: difficulties with studies, unemployment, family arguments, crises in friendships or in building good loving relationships, illness or disability, lack of adequate resources as a result of the present widespread economic and social crisis.

After all we are the light of the world.

realist
03 Jun 2009 10:13

Again I disagree look at the spade of stabbing to deaths that are happening at schools! 
That’s what happens when you put super rich, rich, middle and poor class school children in one roof.

maud
03 Jun 2009 10:20

@monchooza - the youth of 2009 has cars , houses, companies etc, like you said ,its because of the youth of 1976 they paved the way, for us to have all the above-mentioned

they gave us the freedom of speech, thats wy we sit down and talk, because we have people to listen to us.

maud
03 Jun 2009 10:28

today guys we speak english in big boardrooms, because some of us went to Multi racial schools, the youth of 76 were not allowed into those schools, let alone given an opportunity to buy a company. no tenders were available for them. we did nothing but we have it all.

guys i know we drink and party on youth day, and i am not saying its wrong but we must never look down on what those youth did for us. we have all the reason to celebrate plus nemali sinayo,

Nonny
03 Jun 2009 10:40

It means i mustsubmit my leave form for the 15th, go home on the 12th and come back on the 16th, so it is extended wekkend for me.
LMAO

Most blacks now only use their mother tongue when dreaming because they don't have control over it, they don't say eish anymore but eina when it hurt somewhere.
One and Only, u are a classic. U also deserve to have a public holiday, u are too unique.

vallie
03 Jun 2009 10:40

@monchooza - the youth of 2009 has cars , houses, companies etc, like you said ,its because of the youth of 1976 they paved the way, for us to have all the above-mentioned

they gave us the freedom of speech, thats wy we sit down and talk, because we have people to listen to us.
i guess what all the above means is that the youth of 1976 did not die in vain because we are utilising all the opportunities that we have coz of them. i think by sitting down and talking about issues, standing up for ourselves and actually having those things that they were fighting for= better jobs, education etc , we are honouring them.

mothotlung
03 Jun 2009 10:41

What happened to Tsietsi Mashinini the guy who was carrying Hector Peterson, Is he still alive or what? I believe since he vanished that time.

Nonny
03 Jun 2009 10:42

what i am trying to say is you cant expect someone who has it all to act like some one who does not
Amen Monchy. and this whole thing abt us appreciating what the youth of 1976 did is being over-used. We have different struggles now and that's what the main focus should be.

One and Only
03 Jun 2009 11:36

Whoever died on that day died for his/her own benefit not mine and they achieved nothing for that riot because until today in times of democracy under the black government schools are still teaching Afrikaans and is being taught by black teachers, so who's oppressing the other here?

To highlight the importance of English & Afrikaans most important documents are written in these 2 languages, companies will ask you your home language at the same time give you two preferred methods of communication Eng/Afr. It's a remarkable thing when a white person speaks one of our languages but not when we twang more than the owners of English.

Banks have realised the importance of languages in such a way that they have included black languages in ATM's but most of you are still selecting English because ATM is too complicated to operate in isiXhosa, seTswana etc.

Sometimes you find blacks as black as a bag of charcoal in malls, boardrooms speaking English when there aren't any whites around! You brag about your kid being clever/smart because s/he can speak English fluently! I bet you 2 bags of manure God is also laughing and puzzled at the same time because He's receiving prayers and requests left, right and centre in English from the Blacks.
Now I refuse to be blackmailed and brainwashed into thinking that June 16 is important to me, just like I don't feel nothing when Nkosi sikeleli Africa is being sung I won't even put my right hand in my heart.

nice
03 Jun 2009 11:37

What happened to Tsietsi Mashinini the guy who was carrying Hector Peterson, Is he still alive or what? I believe since he vanished that time.

mothotlung
, please read that link link posted by FK
http://africanhistory.about.com/library/weekly/aa060801a.htm  

ignorance is a disease!!

realist
03 Jun 2009 11:50

just like I don't feel nothing when Nkosi sikeleli Africa is being sung I won't even put my right hand in my heart.
I can understand you on the 16 June story but on the national anthem!!!, I am puzzeled. Please explain why. Is it also the language issue or is it something else?

Katlegom
03 Jun 2009 11:52

What happened to Tsietsi Mashinini the guy who was carrying Hector Peterson, Is he still alive or what? I believe since he vanished that time.
apparently he died of AIDS

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_1555941,00.html

Green.arrow
03 Jun 2009 11:52

ignorance is a disease!! .........kwa^8...nice mara!
4 the record mothotlung...it wasnt Tsiestsi...t'was Mbuyisa....
follow nice's link, or even simply wikipedia ur heart out...

One and Only........

anyway...this commnets are soo interesting, they are really edifying me in some way..thanx guys..keep'em coming!!!


Cande
03 Jun 2009 11:53

Banks have realised the importance of languages in such a way that they have included black languages in ATM's but most of you are still selecting English because ATM is too complicated to operate in isiXhosa, seTswana etc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> true this

Cande
03 Jun 2009 11:54

am also puzzled at the national Anthem story 1& O

Cande
03 Jun 2009 11:56

shuu Katlego, where do you get all this links?? and its 2004 link talk about archives

dali
03 Jun 2009 11:58

nkosi sikel iafrika.........

morena boloka.........

uit die...........

sounds the call.....

one en only pls finish this fo me....... *pretty pls*

Green.arrow
03 Jun 2009 11:59

Katlegom...!!!
ur confusing the question even further...but i understand bcos their stories a rather similar in that they both disapeard after the uprising.....however, it is Tsietsi who allegedly died of aids...but it was Mbuyisa who was carrying hector

I can understand you on the 16 June story but on the national anthem!!!, I am puzzeled. Please explain why. Is it also the language issue or is it something else?
..we sing the anthem prayerfully at church every sunday.....it means a lot to me, from a spiritual point of view..every word in the anthem.....(confession:...the afrikaans part...i dont quite connect with it....i need to repent)

maud
03 Jun 2009 12:00

@katlegom- it was a book that was written by some other Artist, ariam Makeba denied all the rumors as they also claimed that he stayed with him.

the other book says he was killed by a certain Gang, i am sorry i cant go into this link maybe it explains better.

and the Guy who was carring Hector is not Tsietsi, and yes he was never found.

dali
03 Jun 2009 12:02

i'll do the tsonga version cause i dnt expect yo to know it

hosi katekisa afrika
ari dzunisiwe vito ra ko
twana swikongelo swa hina 
hosi katekisa 
hina vana va ko
hosi katekisa

maud
03 Jun 2009 12:06

@one and only- you are entitled to your opinion , lets agree to disagree in this one
the national anthem has nothing to do with this ,its a prayer.

the ATM , story - can you imagine when it will have to ask me in Xhosa- xhiphizela inombolo yakho, what will it say if it has to ask me if its a cheque or Savings, hayi man, please i wont select Xhosa or Zulu.

TheLady
03 Jun 2009 12:08

"I don't cry myself a river I acknowledge the day and I sit back and think of the challenges of what the youth of 2009 are facing and what am I doing to change it."

What have you done so far to change something? we've had this holiday since 1995 (?) All these years you sit in your room and think about what you'll do to change the challenges for the year? What have every actually come up with in pas 6 yrs?I'll go easy on your and not count the rest...Damn the day is 24hrs my dear!And you are about 6 months too late coz in 13 days time you'll still be strategizing about 2009...And how much time do you think you'll need to implement your plan for 2009 before we get to 2010?

Frankly-I think I'm better off acknowledging the holiday in the morning and then boozing on this day than wrecking my brain for 24 hours every year with zilch to show for it...at least I have pleasant memories.

cleve
03 Jun 2009 12:08

Dali that is so sexy.............. I can read it perfectly and understand every single word.

ms.tebby
03 Jun 2009 12:08

dali
03 Jun 2009 12:13

lol cleve thatz a prayer fo crying out loud..

awelani
03 Jun 2009 12:14

Sometimes you find blacks as black as a bag of charcoal in malls, boardrooms speaking English when there aren't any whites around! You brag about your kid being clever/smart because s/he can speak English fluently! I bet you 2 bags of manure God is also laughing and puzzled at the same time because He's receiving prayers and requests left, right and centre in English from the Blacks>>>>LMBVAOTIPALB,, kwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakwakwakwakwakwa

Best-Achiever
03 Jun 2009 12:18

OMG ..The Lady, LOL
and LOL@dali

Brown Shuga
03 Jun 2009 12:18

<<<Anywa ywhat do you do on this day? Cry yourself a river coz you are thinking of Hector?>>> Triple LOL

<<<the youth of 1976 was violent, thina we sit down and talk about it...lol>>> LMAO

<<<It means i mustsubmit my leave form for the 15th, go home on the 12th and come back on the 16th, so it is extended wekkend for me.>>> Thanks for reminding me! I'ma do the same!

<<<Banks have realised the importance of languages in such a way that they have included black languages in ATM's but most of you are still selecting English because ATM is too complicated to operate in isiXhosa, seTswana etc.>>> True dat!

All in all TRIPLE LOL @ all the replies.

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 12:20

I'm back!


I'm happy to see that a lot you bloggers know what u are talking about while others don't know a thing.

awelani
03 Jun 2009 12:22

LMBAO @ u guys, tjoo, u guys are just too funny, sixple lol...

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 12:23

Hey watup with this stupid 16 June............people must grow up now forget about the past focus on the future..........coz this past stupid history doesn't worthy anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cande
03 Jun 2009 12:27

am sure all of us read about June 16 1976 mo dibukeng, and have heard people talk about it. But that doesn't mean we have to mourn everyyear on that day.

Amza
03 Jun 2009 12:32

Haikhona...you guys are crazy man.. Lol

Positivity1
03 Jun 2009 12:38

Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. - Martin Luther King 

One cannot and must not try to erase the past merely because it does not fit the present. ~Golda Meir


What you need to know about the past is that no matter what has happened, it has all worked together to bring you to this very moment. And this is the moment you can choose to make everything new. Right now. ~Author Unknown

monchooza
03 Jun 2009 12:38

all i am saying is that...the youth of 1976 had not freedom of choice...they were mostly forced into circumstances...thina we have freedom of choice andhow we exercise our rights is our democratic right..so abasiyeke phansi....

as for people who are disappointed about my Opinions...shem deal with it.....and mina I am not disappointed by any one ngoba thats their personal opinion not mine...I cant expect/force my friends to share the same centiments nami...again thats my democratic right

Positivity1
03 Jun 2009 12:39

I'ts not about mourning it's about commerating the Day!

Positivity1
03 Jun 2009 12:44

as for people who are disappointed about my Opinions >>> That's me who said that it's not people! You should have just addresed me that's all rather than saying people! 

And you have your democratic right because of the battle that was continued by youth in 1976!

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 12:45

I'ts not about mourning it's about commerating the Day.....................Mnxmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dat's nonsense man

monchooza
03 Jun 2009 12:46

Positivity read all the replies you will see ukuthi you are not the only one

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 12:47

Guys just comemmorate the day.

"Our parents are prepared to suffer under the white man's rule. They have been living for years under these laws and they have become immune to them. But we strongly refuse to swallow an education that is designed to make us slaves in the country of our birth,"


This was a statement used by one of the students to the world newspaper during that time. hopefully this will make u understand why they did it, not because a group of black kids were bored so they decided to make a noise.

Green.arrow
03 Jun 2009 12:49

...Wwwwwooow!!!......i'll keep coming back!

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 12:49

This is stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

monchooza
03 Jun 2009 12:49

I dont owe the youth of 1976 nothing...angibakoloti niks infact..who are they so that i can tell them that ebusweni...

Positivity1
03 Jun 2009 12:50

I apologize for all of us then Moncho... I guess some of us we are just passionate about this topic! Sorry babes..:)

Dash
03 Jun 2009 12:58

Monch, are you 1 and only's cousin?

Brown Shuga
03 Jun 2009 13:00

CLASSIC QUOTE OF THE DAY:

"I dont owe the youth of 1976 nothing...angibakoloti niks infact..who are they so that i can tell them that ebusweni..." Monchooza, 2009

Kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kw akw a
hahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahhahaahhahahaha
heheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheh
tl tlo tl tl tl tl tl tl tl tl lt lt lt  tlt lt lt tl lt tltltltltltltltltlltltltltltltltltltltllt
LMAOTIPIMP

Virtous
03 Jun 2009 13:00

Those kids of 1976 fought for alot, a right to dignity not to be treated unfairly and most importantly a right to be taught in a meduim of instruction of their choice.

Its amazing that peeps who have benefited from the struggle thru their BEE deals are now sitting on their plush asses and dont give a damn about the sacrifices the masses made.

Its the same people who now act as high commissioners and diplomats whose children attend fancy schools and now say in twangy accents "I dont know why they struggled or rioted".

Bunch of ungrateful peeps!

awelani
03 Jun 2009 13:02

omw, Monchooo, gazillion kwaaas<<<I dont owe the youth of 1976 nothing...angibakoloti niks infact..who are they so that i can tell them that ebusweni>>>

lol @ dash

Cande
03 Jun 2009 13:04

OMFW, kwkakwkakkwkakkwa hahahhahaa kwkakwkkakkw

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 13:05

@Virtous


I hope the peeps from bloogywood understood ur statement cuz its true

dali
03 Jun 2009 13:07

ditto virtous ....................Bunch of ungrateful peeps!

Tynt!
03 Jun 2009 13:09

June 16… It’s just a holiday njhe….I think it impinge on the youth from Soweto more than any other youth in SA...

TheLady
03 Jun 2009 13:11

Say what? ROTFLMAO..whoooooooooooooo...eish I haven't laughed this hard on tvsa for a while..thanx JL...

TheLady
03 Jun 2009 13:15

"My mind is still hungry for knowledge. Imagine if i were to be taught in Afrikaans, i can't even write a setence that would make sense with that language, By the way where does Afrikaans come from? "
Dear when you were born you did not know a word of English-you would have learnt Afrikaans just like you did English. Afrikaans comes from Dutch..and English is not from Africa too ...So basically it was half a fight! I'm still glad they did fight coz English is spoken internationally and I can booze during a work day on the 16th ;-)

awelani
03 Jun 2009 13:18

bathong TL...lol

Positivity1
03 Jun 2009 13:20

Its the same people who now act as high commissioners and diplomats whose children attend fancy schools and now say in twangy accents "I dont know why they struggled or rioted".  Bunch of ungrateful peeps! >>> I wouldn't have said it better Virtous!  So sad *sigh*.

I think the problem is that most people here are missing the point. We are not saying tthat today's youth doesn't have it's own struggles! All we are saying is that we have more reason to go forward because of the foundation they laid for us!
And this calls for gratitude! Simple

Cande
03 Jun 2009 13:23

bathong TL??? LOL@ half a fight..hahhah

Toodecent
03 Jun 2009 13:23

I dont owe the youth of 1976 nothing...angibakoloti niks infact..who are they so that i can tell them that ebusweni...>>>> And we'll drink to that skeem saka.

awelani
03 Jun 2009 13:26

omw TL, cant stop lafing @ ur above reply, i can just imagine u saying "Dear", i see u patting the poor child on the back(like comfroting her),lol

felfel
03 Jun 2009 13:27

Ayasihleka amaChina...nc nc nc nc nc lol, qhubekani

Dash
03 Jun 2009 13:28

Monch, look at this; f.a’s.s.(for argument’s sake) a topic on tvsa in year 2030 is Mandela the first democratically elected President of SA. What does Mandela day mean to you?

Replies 101

Reply from: One and Only? 6/2/2030 10:55:36 PM

Whoever Mandela is and whatever the reasons he was jailed he did that for his/her own benefit not mine and he achieved nothing for that 27 years or whatever years because today in times of democracy under these black presidents, we are still jailed by the same black police men, so who’s oppressing the other here?

Reply from: monchooza 6/2/2030 11:05:31 PM

Mandela day means nothing to me too its just a day to get drunk.....
I dont owe Mandela nothing...angimkoloti niks infact..where is he/her so that i can tell him/her that ebusweni...

Do you get me monch? Please answer me. Are you and one and only relatives?

One and Only
03 Jun 2009 13:29

This reminds me of a guy who is always telling me that he was the 1st person to occupying our area, he had no neighbour nothing. He is the one who wrote petitions for the electricity, buses and taxis to operate. My question is always so what? What do you want from me? Do you want me to lick your ass for that because I wasn't even there during that time? Maybe I would have joined them if I was there!

Just remind me again why I don't smoke dagga, if you don't have money to support your narcotic addiction do not take cow/horse's *bleep!* to in exhange of cigarette.

Okay let's get off our butts and do something this June 16, I suggest that organise a meeting and protest against ......................... I don't know, HIV/AIDS maybe? Nay you have a choice to use or not to use condom. Please do tell me young freedom fighters what we should do in this day.

Cande
03 Jun 2009 13:29

hahahhah OMW Dash, lmao tl tl tl tl

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 13:31

WHAT DOES JUNE 16 MEAN TO YOU?.......It's means i have to take the day off coz there's lot of stress at work en most of my client refuse to pay me after a shagg  ....................Sori Lady gaga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cande
03 Jun 2009 13:31

LMAO @ 1& O tsk tsk tsk

Heartsbreaker
03 Jun 2009 13:31

Tjo!!!!! i can't believe i sacrificed  30minutes on my luch time, just  to read all your replies. shooooooooo you lot are funny.

Yho!! one&only........i hate to admit that your replies are making sense...

Hayi mina, i don't usually think much about '76 youth on the 16th because it's my best friend's birthday.....the reason being that we always party and party and party.....but i got educated though from some of your replies.

awelani
03 Jun 2009 13:32

vhathu vhanga!!!!

Amza
03 Jun 2009 13:33

It means nothing to me.... just a day when a couple of black kids decided to go on a riot and years after they called hereos. It was uncalled for in the first place for kids to behave in that manner.... i could still be in Bophutatswana now le Kgosi yame Mangope...damn!


hahahahahahah.,...rotflmao..
Im reminded of:

Gazankulu - Hosi Ntsanwisi
Republic of Venda - Vho- Mphephu

lollest

ms.tebby
03 Jun 2009 13:35

One & only, can you be my friend pleeeease, I beg you! please

awelani
03 Jun 2009 13:37

LMAO @ Amza, u just ahd to remind me of Republic of Venda,,@least Vho-Mphephu vho tuwa vho riitela airport,lol

awelani
03 Jun 2009 13:38

Tebby, u were defending 1&O on facebook, now ur asking him to be ur frend?? gal do u have a crush on him or what??

monchooza
03 Jun 2009 13:40

Guys you must remember ukuthi its not just Mandela that liberated us from the Apartheid.....there are a lot of unsung heroes so just because you dont think much of Mandela does not mean you dont know where you come from as a nation...there are people who played a bigger role than mandela in liberating our country

Dimago
03 Jun 2009 13:40

"I dont owe the youth of 1976 nothing...angibakoloti niks infact..who are they so that i can tell them that ebusweni..." 
The youth of today!!!

Firstdvd
03 Jun 2009 13:41

@Awe...were you againts him yini?

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 13:42

@ms.tebby...........kahle bo muntu wesimame sowufuna u 1& Only acting as if u want him to be ur friend .................kanti u lying -ke ngiyazi usufuna umthondo wakhe kanti uzokukhahlaza phela uOne &Only uphethe u -10 inch en 20 cm of penis(dick) so uzoguga sistaz

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 13:44

Tebby, u were defending 1&O on facebook, now ur asking him to be ur frend?? gal do u have a crush on him or what??......Mh! Nice one Awelani  m glad ukuthi angiyiboni ngedwa ke le

cleve
03 Jun 2009 13:44

Brown Shuga
03 Jun 2009 13:46

Kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kw kwa @ Dash. Dude you're killing me....


<<<<Mandela day means nothing to me too its just a day to get drunk.....
I dont owe Mandela nothing...angimkoloti niks infact..where is he/her so that i can tell him/her that ebusweni..>>>>
eish, now that you put it this way.......

awelani
03 Jun 2009 13:46

No FD, just heard a lot of good things about him, he made a difference e-Venda, so if he was still around, who knows how it wud have been like..

UmfaziWeNgozi..OMW, the youth of tiday indeed. tjooo

Positivity1
03 Jun 2009 13:46

Suppose you were a member of the youth of 1976 . what would you want today's youth to do on that???

maud
03 Jun 2009 13:50

@Positivity- acknowledge ,enjoy  and cherish the moment. respect what youth of 76 did,drink ,dance and be free. is that asking to much?

Positivity1
03 Jun 2009 13:54

acknowledge >>> that's what we have all been trying to help you guys to understand. However way you celebrate the day it's your business! But just acknowledge  that you are free and it's thanks to them!

cleve
03 Jun 2009 13:59

that's what we have all been trying to help you guys to understand. However way you celebrate the day it's your business! But just acknowledge that you are free and it's thanks to them! 

DANKIE, thank you for your explanation. How you celebrate or spend the day is your baby but just rememeber why we celebrate that day.

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 14:06

@Cleve



Thank u, thank u, thank u, thank u, thank u, thank u,

thank u, thank u, thank u, thank u ,

ms.tebby
03 Jun 2009 14:12

LOL awe, hayi kanti lona what are you thinking ? Dangerous woman,pls write in english or afrikaans...

dali
03 Jun 2009 14:14

ja 76 youth gave us a holiday so letz all celebrate en acknowledge it which ever way we wish.... ditto +

monchooza
03 Jun 2009 14:14

<<<DANKIE, thank you for your explanation. How you celebrate or spend the day is your baby but just rememeber why we celebrate that day.>>>

the youth of today can afford so we will buy ama whiskey and remember them shem...nabo if they were the youth of today they would celebrate by drinking....

cabanga whats a celebration without i straight ne sound...nabo attuse

Green.arrow
03 Jun 2009 14:16

i wanna write that shocked throat expression....@ the responses
im gon keep coming back..bcos im getting little understanding of us being the loner that i am...

note:...pple are good with words, putting them together..and catchy pharses.....but just as they say intelligent is not wisdom.....

Suppose you were a member of the youth of 1976 . what would you want today's youth to do on that??? .....nice question Positivity..
acknowledge.....ryt there!!!!

...and even if u dont want to acknowledge, some of the responses are tasteless....and i believe acknowldging(and it means a lot of things...) should not only b done on june 16...

One and Only
03 Jun 2009 14:16

Guy what happened in Vegas stays in Vegas, some guys are worse than women when it comes to gossiping. Surely nobody needs to know what you were saying in Facebook.

Whoever said whatever on Facebook is not even an asshole but hair around it, because internet offers you maximum protection and all you have to do is sit on your bum and write whatever you wanna write about someone, so why be a spineless coward instead of telling it like it is here on TVSA go to FB.

After 76 Afrikaans was not abolished and still taught at schools, the black government would have made sure that it was abolished if it meant something to us. Since I was born with a gold spoon in my mouth, didn't go to school, didn't sweat for whatever that I have now, am not working because I'm reaping the fruits of June 76 I will spend the whole day crying on that day.

dali
03 Jun 2009 14:16

lol ms t

awelani
03 Jun 2009 14:17

kwakwakwakwkwakwakwa, monchoo, what r u drinking?? seems as if u have already started celebrating, lol

Zah000
03 Jun 2009 14:17

lol Monch

awelani
03 Jun 2009 14:20

1& Only, and now???? what's ur problem, do u know what anybody sed about u on FB??? hayi man, get a life and stop taking everything so serious man, tjeeeer.

Segololo
03 Jun 2009 14:21

I have not read the blog or the responses... so bear with me...

I forfeited Youth day the day I got the badge for Mother's day. To me, youth day is a day for everyone that believes they are young at heart or have the energy (and the drive) to change this country to be a place filled with love, peace, kindness and complete TOLERANCE to start reliving the beliefs the youth of 76 marched and some died for. To get the that energy channelled in the right direction, rouse the really young children and teens with dreams (and sadly the ones who don't have dreams) and encourage them to achieve those dreams without getting involved in things that will kill or endanger themselves and others (crime) and start changing the worlds around them.

dali
03 Jun 2009 14:21

OMW

awelani
03 Jun 2009 14:25

u okay Dali??

Segololo
03 Jun 2009 14:26

just went throu a couple of replies and all I can say is what Michale Jackson sang

*speechless* and then... 

*sigh*
*shaking head*
tjo!

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 14:26

Bla bla bla bla bla *bleep!* this Topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ms.tebby
03 Jun 2009 14:26

O M G....

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 14:28

You may not realise it but you guys are all opinionated just like the youth of 76,
but ignorant like the youth of 2009. So stop being selfish and acknowledge the day.


DAMN! GUYS!

ms.tebby
03 Jun 2009 14:28

LOL awelani, why you asking if dalisto i s ok?...OMW she fainted...!???

....we probably need a sangoma to cleanse (b4 things get worse) since mjj doesn't pray for free anymore..dangerous woman??

awelani
03 Jun 2009 14:28

**sigh**

dali
03 Jun 2009 14:30

okay 1 en only put all the blame on me cause im the one who started this thing on FB......

awe im sorry my frend....

Whoever said whatever on Facebook is not even an asshole but hair around it................LMBSAO

awelani
03 Jun 2009 14:31

lol tebby, good then, get us  a qualified sangoma to cleanse this site, and as for dangerous woman, i think she needs umsebenzi nje naye,lol, come to think of, no 1&O kumele ayenzelwe umsebenzi, too much anger .lol

Cande
03 Jun 2009 14:33

OK GUYS, STOP WANTING TO FORCE YOUR OPINIONS DOWN OTHER PEOPLE's THROATS!!! Nna i dont appreciate someone undermining my opinion and how i think PLEASE

Pooky
03 Jun 2009 14:34

acknowledge >>> that's what we have all been trying to help you guys to understand. However way you celebrate the day it's your business! But just acknowledge that you are free and it's thanks to them! 

DANKIE, thank you for your explanation. How you celebrate or spend the day is your baby but just rememeber why we celebrate that day. 

EXACTLY!!!!!!

Bla bla bla bla bla *bleep!* this Topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....
*sigh*

carino
03 Jun 2009 14:36

Sometimes you find blacks as black as a bag of charcoal in malls, boardrooms speaking English when there aren't any whites around! You brag about your kid being clever/smart because s/he can speak English fluently! I bet you 2 bags of manure God is also laughing and puzzled at the same time because He's receiving prayers and requests left, right and centre in English from the Blacks

kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa kwa

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 14:36

OK GUYS


Moving along now................ things are getting heated (I like that) but I dn't want to cuz a comotion where we just hate on each otha.

I hope this got many of u angry and it was a platform where u were able to vent ur anger.  ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh................... 

U MADE ME PROUD ALL OF U.



Mwah mwah mwah

ms.tebby
03 Jun 2009 14:39

bigmama is best option since she is one of us....
and now dali? u ok my f?

Brown Shuga
03 Jun 2009 14:42

<<<<U MADE ME PROUD ALL OF U.>>>>> Unamanga Jah Lady lol

Awelani is One & Only on Facebook?

dali
03 Jun 2009 14:43

im not suicidal thanx ms t!

ms.tebby
03 Jun 2009 14:46

LOl, Shuga tl tl tl tl tl tl

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 14:46


....we probably need a sangoma to cleanse (b4 things get worse) since mjj doesn't pray for free anymore..dangerous woman??............the person who needs a prayer is u miss.tebby coz uyabatshwa langaphansi......uhalela umthondo nje qha

awelani
03 Jun 2009 14:47

No BS, i dunno, something was just sed about him on FACEBOOK,lol, what, u wana be frends wif him.

Zah000
03 Jun 2009 14:48

*sigh* Kanti kwenzenjani vele?? Jeez!!!

Cande
03 Jun 2009 14:48

Whoever said whatever on Facebook is not even an asshole but hair around it.>>>>>>>>>>>>>tl tl tl tl LMFAO CTFU!!!!

awelani
03 Jun 2009 14:48

OMW  **shaking my head**

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 14:53

@Brown Shuga


U rite.....................lol!

Pooky
03 Jun 2009 14:54

aaai goeie genaade nc nc nc 

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 14:56

wat's ur problem wena Cheesa

Krissy
03 Jun 2009 14:57

Today’s youth has a choice to have 1st language as English, Afrikaans, Sotho, Xhosa, Zulu, Venda etc. @ school. Basically they have a choice. The youth of 1976 was forced with Afrikaans. FORCED! Now mina if anyone had to force me to do something. I will speak up. Yes they also chose to speak up. Now I don’t think they planned for other kids to die that day. They did what felt right @ that time.

So my point is, they fought for what they believed in, and for that I give them the respect. That doesn’t mean I will mourn as someone said, but I remember why I am not at work but instead relaxing @ home. Just for a moment, appreciate the choices I have in life.

So again we also have a choice whether we remember that or not!! Its called history for a reason…

dali
03 Jun 2009 15:02

dangerous woman plz leave my frend alone toe samblief tog...

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 15:05

NXAAAAAAAAAAY *bleep!* u wena Dali..........who's ur friend here Cheesa or miss.tebby.....................or nawe uqhanyelwe well if u r 1& Only is here to *bleep!* u with his 10 inch wetotolozi

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 15:11

@Dangerous women


WOW!

Are u really a prostitue? I wanted to put a face on this person who calls herself dangerous women................... and Damn!
I hate that pic!



I've lost all 10% respect I had for you.

belz
03 Jun 2009 15:15

ROFLMAO!!!!!!! i'm finished, ngiphelile, du, nya, finish!!!!!! ngigcwele ngo one and only.

June 16 means, i can wake up at whatever time i want, infact this day i'm gonna treat myself to movies galore, lekker koos, then ngzobagrand, i know what June 16 means, qha, ngeke ngijumpe up and down estratini.

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 15:19

Are u really a prostitue? I wanted to put a face on this person who calls herself dangerous women................... and Damn!
I hate that pic! ............
Yini coz we both doing this job at night kahle bo wena Lady gaga ukuzenza la

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 15:22

Babes If i'm doing it at night I wouldn't post it for the whole world to see.


Please go back into ur cupboard and look for that self respect u packed away right now!

Brown Shuga
03 Jun 2009 15:24

I've reported the picture Jah Lady.

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 15:26

so ke Lady gaga y u so ashamed  of it pho? coz we alwayz see u or u having a problem dat i have too much clients than urs........phela kungenzeka wena u only get two /three client or u get nothing that's the other waze wakushaya uPinkie coz u trying to steal her client

Zah000
03 Jun 2009 15:26

Siyabonga BS

Lessie
03 Jun 2009 15:26

@ Krissy..... well put together

Brown Shuga
03 Jun 2009 15:27

P.S. Jah Lady, as the Blog Owner you have a right to delete offensive replies.

awelani
03 Jun 2009 15:27

thanx BS,

TheLady
03 Jun 2009 15:28

Thanx BS...yhooo-that was depressing.

cleve
03 Jun 2009 15:29

Jah Lady please delete D W replies as it was a beautiful blog unti I read her replies.

Thank you in advance!!!!

I see the genrubbish blog has moved over here.

Lessie
03 Jun 2009 15:30

Itjoo... metlholo ga e fele 

Zah000
03 Jun 2009 15:32

you can say that again TL!! OMW

awelani
03 Jun 2009 15:35

JahLady, please remove them, tooooo offensive and childish.

Phikza
03 Jun 2009 15:35

Enkosi Brown Shuga!

belz
03 Jun 2009 15:36

yini manje ngalengozi yomfazi!! JahLady, you also have a an option of blocking people, abayingozi.

JadaPinkett
03 Jun 2009 15:37

Hey Lady gaga nice article..............it's apity dat i was busy the whole well we shot staff la emsebenzini i can c i missed a lot en there's new ppl with stupid replies don't worry about them my love but we all know wat happened on the 16 JUNE en we shoul d be proud that we  now can have say because of those Youth who fought for us....

En u Dangerous Women I don't think u dangerous anymore u jst full of *bleep!*.
Awuzihloniphi dat's all

I love u guyz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phikza
03 Jun 2009 15:39

ngaske a blockwe or something like that......uyadina shem......cant you guys do that BS??

Cande
03 Jun 2009 15:42

*triple sigh*

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 15:42

@Dangerous hoochie


Babes what are u talking about?

Stop thinking with what is between ur legs, that pic is not funny at all...............
You might think u being funny or even sexy but (NEWS FLASH).........




U aint!

Lessie
03 Jun 2009 15:45

ngaske a blockwe or something like that......uyadina shem......cant you guys do that BS?? she will most pobably register with the diff username

One and Only
03 Jun 2009 15:45

Off topic: Mjj get over here I have a bone to pick with you!!

Brown Shuga
03 Jun 2009 15:46

Tjo, lemme go call mjj....

lady gaga
03 Jun 2009 15:46

@JadaPinkett
Thanks sthandwa sami,luv u mngane!!

wena Dangerous women,what are on about? hai sisi, im not into women mina sho! ngiyayithanda i ncanca haa!! - no hard feelings. uzongibalekisela izinyoni wena!....

June 16 shud be respected period!!!

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 15:48

Fuck you All!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

myname
03 Jun 2009 15:49

 nc nc nc nc Nkoso'nofefe!!!!!!!

afternoon
03 Jun 2009 15:50

LMAO Brown Shuga, ha ha ha haaaa!

awelani
03 Jun 2009 15:51

OMW..

cleve
03 Jun 2009 15:51

oh Ja!!!!!!!

maud
03 Jun 2009 15:51

@Dali , i have ask you were is Dalo, please put two and two together , you will get my point

AHAMZALA
03 Jun 2009 15:52

Guys this topic was really a healthy debate, accept of cause for the mine glitches!  Thank you so much I enjoyed reading both sides immensely! To those who debated healthily I thank you! Personally I'm grateful for the youth of June 16! And yes Positivity acknowledge their contribution is what I do! To Segololo well put!

And BS thanks for keeping this site clean!

Cande
03 Jun 2009 15:52

*saying a silent prayer*

JadaPinkett
03 Jun 2009 15:52

Chaa-ke Sisi........if u think u being funny ....sori to u coz we don't buy it
Guyz jst ignore her................en u ma friend don't worry about ppl u don't know don't let them stress u yeva Lady gaga

lady gaga
03 Jun 2009 15:54

hai man, i think im lost.vele,vele whats happening la????????????

belz
03 Jun 2009 15:54

*singing Holy Cross Choir songs*

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 15:55

@Dangerous Hoochie



thats all you know (F%$CK!)

mjj
03 Jun 2009 15:55

I'm here guys, who's looking for me?

Brown Shuga
03 Jun 2009 15:57

The picture has been changed. Thanks to TVSA Security lol.

http://www.tvsa.co.za/user_home.asp?uID=26564

Green.arrow
03 Jun 2009 15:57

Guys this topic was really a healthy debate, accept of cause for the mine glitches! Thank you so much I enjoyed reading both sides immensely! To those who debated healthily I thank you! Personally I'm grateful for the youth of June 16! And yes Positivity acknowledge their contribution is what I do! To Segololo well put!

And BS thanks for keeping this site clean!

well put AHAMZALA.....i couldnt have said it better or even close to this!!!

JadaPinkett
03 Jun 2009 15:57

uh !thnx God mjj is here ....do ur thingz pastor i jst came here i got this woman here,  her name Dangerous woman

afternoon
03 Jun 2009 15:57

is it clean? Not yet.. Jah Lady is not yet ready to delete the offensive replies

Brown Shuga
03 Jun 2009 15:58

ONE AND ONLY MJJ IS HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amza
03 Jun 2009 15:58

*Praying in toungues...*

myname
03 Jun 2009 15:59

Hi Mjj "()""()"()"""(jumping like a baby seeing his luving daddy)

awelani
03 Jun 2009 15:59

One and Only is looking for u MJJ

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 15:59

BS



Thank you!

awelani
03 Jun 2009 16:00

lol,, so pick the bone 1&O,lol

One and Only
03 Jun 2009 16:02

I prefer PM so I'll correspond with you there.

monchooza
03 Jun 2009 16:02

LOL shuhu awusaqhathanisi nje...lol

monchooza
03 Jun 2009 16:02

LOL shushu awusaqhathanisi nje...lol

lady gaga
03 Jun 2009 16:02

@maud

<"@Dali , i have ask you were is Dalo, please put two and two together , you will get my point">

hey maud,         Dalo (2) + Dangerous woman (2) = ??????????? NO OFFENCE GUYS!!!!

awelani
03 Jun 2009 16:04

haaaaaa One&O?? mncim.

Brown Shuga
03 Jun 2009 16:04

<<<<I prefer PM so I'll correspond with you there.>>>> Usijwayela kabi yazi One and Only!
I go all the way to GMAIL with my bosses internet to call mjj for YOU and then you come and tell us about PM?? Do'nt reply to him wena mjj!

You must write here, here One & Only!

dali
03 Jun 2009 16:05

lol i do maud

carino
03 Jun 2009 16:05

Tjo.. nami I came for the bisto...

belz
03 Jun 2009 16:05

LOL Amza.

Segololo
03 Jun 2009 16:05

am sooo happy I am not fluent in Zulu right now! tjo! *shaking head*

awelani
03 Jun 2009 16:06

lady gaga??? Dalo (2) + Dangerous woman (2) =

monchooza
03 Jun 2009 16:06

mjj
03 Jun 2009 16:06

Who's this woman that need prayers? I hope she's not a journalist from that other paper.....,ok 1 & only , I'll check my PM my friendo

belz
03 Jun 2009 16:08

kwakwakwakwa one and only. shem hayi ah!!

awelani
03 Jun 2009 16:08

Nami i had to put my trip to the loo for the 'bone' , i compromised my bladder, then u come and tell us about PM's?? dont come here with ur voet voet nosense 1&O.

awelani
03 Jun 2009 16:10

mjj, u know i love u right???

Sana Lwam
03 Jun 2009 16:11

mximm siphi na esiscore sika One&Only no mjj????

mjj
03 Jun 2009 16:12

U guys love gossip, 1&only wants to talk to me about the PSL awards or Big Brother.......hi my name, let me say a little prayer for someone....

Dangerous woman
03 Jun 2009 16:12

En wena JadaPinkett u think unuka kancono.........u are a fake nje en there's nothing endingayithetha nawe...........why ungabi uwena nje busy faking a name
I can see nako Gen blog they making you a star.............mnxmmmmmm suka mina i don't love at all

Jah Lady
03 Jun 2009 16:13

mjj?????


Journalist from which paper

mothotlung
03 Jun 2009 16:14

Dangerous women U sound not having the spirit of Youth Day....On the 16 stay at home and fix your attitude, dammit! wa nkwatisa yerrrr.

Segololo
03 Jun 2009 16:14

lol, AWE! tjo! is "bone" really worth a bladder? none of the blockers will even donate one if it had burst.. lmao!

awelani
03 Jun 2009 16:15

i love u mjj :) ♥♥♥♥♥

JadaPinkett
03 Jun 2009 16:17

Hey Awelani  .........how u doin ma friend

belz
03 Jun 2009 16:17

yini awelani wathanda umjj kangaka.

awelani
03 Jun 2009 16:18

LOL Sego, phela, i love ditaba, imagine i had gone to the loo and they start picking the bone/s, by the time i come bek, there wud be 50 replies that i must read b4 i post mine, so its worth the wait.  BTW, i still havent gone to the loo yet, still hoping they will pick ithambo.lol

Sana Lwam
03 Jun 2009 16:20

LOL@ awelani.......are we also gonna be invited to a wedding like JadaPinkett + TDC

awelani
03 Jun 2009 16:20

hey JP, um fine, just trying to hang on for few more minutes, need to do number 1, but its hard to leave my pc,lol

belzy, phela um ncenging indaba, i wana know what kind of ithambo 1&O wanted to pick with MyJuJu,lol

awelani
03 Jun 2009 16:22

maybe SL, it will depend on weather mjj shares the 'bone",lol

Sana Lwam
03 Jun 2009 16:24

LOL bye all

One and Only
03 Jun 2009 16:26

Sorry good people it was just a joke, can't someone joke on a wednesday afternoon?

You will wait till you grow breast if you are a man, accept my apologies.

awelani
03 Jun 2009 16:28

Bye guys   *much love*, nawe futhi 1&O, love u too :)

maud
03 Jun 2009 16:29

@lady gaga - i have to admit you are indeed the Lady ,by your attitute i can tell that awuvelanga wahlangana ne internet. you are a well educated and disciplined lady
keep up the good work because you are a good woman, from where i came from we call you ( isikhokho)

your parents must be proud of you for not waisting their money sending you to School.

i have to love and leave you

awelani
03 Jun 2009 16:32

@Maud, and what do u call me??? **wink wink**

belz
03 Jun 2009 16:36

LMAO @ hlanganing with the internet,yho maud, hahahahahahahaha.

monchooza
03 Jun 2009 16:45

LOL @ awe Brown-nosing Mjj

Cande
03 Jun 2009 17:30

guys can you leave MJJ & 1&O's bone picking tu, i am the only one who is allowed to know, and i already know so please close it now before your breast grow.hahhaha 1&O always kills me with his lines.

Brown Shuga
03 Jun 2009 22:52

I also know... and I think u One & Only une apartheid...lol

lejazz
11 Jun 2009 12:40

Someone has sacrificed his/her life for me to be where I am now.....getting free education..

monchooza
12 Jun 2009 14:12

cant wait for my hard earned Long weekend...that my 1976 brothers fought for

maud
12 Jun 2009 14:23

Monchoo- there were also sisters

Brown Shuga
12 Jun 2009 14:40

LOL Maud....

monchooza
12 Jun 2009 15:55

eish Maud..yeah them too with their screaming

Cande
12 Jun 2009 16:05

LOL!

maud
12 Jun 2009 16:12

@monchooza- have you notice how many kids were born between 76 and 77 - abo freedom nabo Zinzi, it was strugle mzala Viva BS Viva


on a serious note now to everyone who will be going to the game on sunday please take care of yourselves for me, and please ningandikhwazi ,asking me ukuthi ndiziveze on Monday i will be coming back on wednesday.

Nonny
12 Jun 2009 16:15

cant wait for my hard earned Long weekend...that my 1976 brothers fought for
Wena futhi Monchy, u are grateful futhi manje, after u said: "June 16 means nothing to me too (its just a day to get drunk and wear school uniform)....."....hehehheeheh ave udlala ngathi!


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