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The Youth Debate

Written by TVSA Team from the blog 3rd Degree on 02 Dec 2008
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Coming up on 3rd Degree:

Episode: The Man Behind The Green Face
Broadcast date: 2 December 2008
Channel: e.tv
Repeated: 21h00 on the eNews Channel

Cockroaches, rapists, lunatics and baboons - these are some of the words used in a stream of verbal attacks between the political leaders of the various youth leagues.

With the country’s national elections approaching, the battle for votes is underway and this week 3rd Degree puts Young Communist League leader Buti Manmela up against Anele Mda, the youth leader of the newly formed COPE.

This is the first of various such political debates that 3rd Degree will host in the build-up to next year's elections.





91 Comments

calamity
02 Dec 2008 08:08

Anele Mda, the youth leader of the newly formed COPE. 
I thought Anele as only a convener of  COPE youth league. and not the leader.

tha - bang
02 Dec 2008 08:21

this should be interesting

TerryN
02 Dec 2008 15:05

the words used in a stream of verbal attacks between the political leaders of the various youth leagues. 

Oh my hat!!! I cant even say the circus is in town because it never left. What a bunch of clowns...We will never hear the end of this one.....

Cande
02 Dec 2008 15:32

I thought Anele as only a convener of COPE youth league. and not the leader.

She hasnt been elected yet but then she is the one leading youth mattters for the party at the moment..
Will definitely watch

TerryN
02 Dec 2008 15:05

the words used in a stream of verbal attacks between the political leaders of the various youth leagues. 

Oh my hat!!! I cant even say the circus is in town because it never left. What a bunch of clowns...We will never hear the end of this one.....

realist
02 Dec 2008 16:13

The communist league are on a band wagon of the ANC. SACP will not be contesting the elections next year therefore it is irrelevant to have them debate issues with the parties that will be contesting the elections.

 Choose the youth league of the parties that will be contesting the elections next year. Will definitely watch Purely for the entertainment and nothing worth of substance will come out from the SACP since they are not contesting the elections.

She hasnt been elected yet but then she is the one leading youth mattters for the party at the moment.. 
Quiet right. She maybe after the 16 Dec conference. I heard somewhere that she is 40. Is she eligible to be the youth league leader?

Cande
02 Dec 2008 15:32

I thought Anele as only a convener of COPE youth league. and not the leader.

She hasnt been elected yet but then she is the one leading youth mattters for the party at the moment..
Will definitely watch

andi01
02 Dec 2008 16:53

OMG, please not Julius malema again, I for one had eneough of him for one year, the poor boy doesnt even have family, he must take  a break and write to khumbulikhaya so that he can track his lost long uncles and cousins.

Cande
02 Dec 2008 16:57

She is NOT 40 realist

realist
02 Dec 2008 16:13

The communist league are on a band wagon of the ANC. SACP will not be contesting the elections next year therefore it is irrelevant to have them debate issues with the parties that will be contesting the elections.

 Choose the youth league of the parties that will be contesting the elections next year. Will definitely watch Purely for the entertainment and nothing worth of substance will come out from the SACP since they are not contesting the elections.

She hasnt been elected yet but then she is the one leading youth mattters for the party at the moment.. 
Quiet right. She maybe after the 16 Dec conference. I heard somewhere that she is 40. Is she eligible to be the youth league leader?

andi01
02 Dec 2008 17:08

She is NOT 40 realist-  she just chased her hiv + sister out of her house, what has bcom of onse leaders, nci nci nci, criticizing Malema, but doing teh worst, malema would never do that to his family, if he had one.

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 17:28

Forget the HIV, what did the sister do?

Lady D
02 Dec 2008 17:41

Excately BS...why did she do???????????????

mjj
02 Dec 2008 17:45

She is 30 and has 4 children, 1 biological and 3 adopted.........I have issues with this girl because she has called my friend Julius Names.........Lemas where are you my friend

andi01
02 Dec 2008 16:53

OMG, please not Julius malema again, I for one had eneough of him for one year, the poor boy doesnt even have family, he must take  a break and write to khumbulikhaya so that he can track his lost long uncles and cousins.

Cande
02 Dec 2008 16:57

She is NOT 40 realist

andi01
02 Dec 2008 17:08

She is NOT 40 realist-  she just chased her hiv + sister out of her house, what has bcom of onse leaders, nci nci nci, criticizing Malema, but doing teh worst, malema would never do that to his family, if he had one.

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 17:28

Forget the HIV, what did the sister do?

Lady D
02 Dec 2008 17:41

Excately BS...why did she do???????????????

mjj
02 Dec 2008 17:45

She is 30 and has 4 children, 1 biological and 3 adopted.........I have issues with this girl because she has called my friend Julius Names.........Lemas where are you my friend

MrT
02 Dec 2008 17:59

i agree

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 18:08

Agree with what?

Toxic
02 Dec 2008 18:11

Shuga, is  robert marawa back on air?

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 18:20

No Tox, I hope he'll be back next year...he's on "recovery" leave.....

mjj
02 Dec 2008 18:23

no Toxic

Best-Achiever
02 Dec 2008 18:25

Anele Mda ... doesnt Cope have someone better to represent them other than her ... me thinks she is another version of JM

Bra Bizza
02 Dec 2008 18:26

will def watch this one

Bra Bizza
02 Dec 2008 22:12

tjo...what a boring debate....i think Mjj's friend would have added some spark tonight....the spokeperson for the Congress of the Angry People needs some political education

Bra Bizza
02 Dec 2008 18:26

will def watch this one

mjj
02 Dec 2008 22:15

Bra B i didn't watch the show, my that girl hasn't impressed me yet...she talks a lot of *bleep!* and she thinks she's intelligent.......

So what happened?

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 22:18

Yho Bra B! I was bored outta my skull (this saying reminds me of the party blog) and what was up with Buti having his arms folded the whole time?
Did he not want to be there or was it a way to handle nerves? 
I don't think that "thing" qualifies to be called a debate...we need another name for it.....

mjj
02 Dec 2008 22:20

What happened???????

Lady D
02 Dec 2008 22:21

DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO WATCH!

Dundubala
02 Dec 2008 22:30

The COPe's rep, is wrong. Anele & Madisha did not apologise.It is their spokesperson Phillip Dexter who apologised on their behalfs. Malema did apologise on COPe's favorite radio station 702.

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 22:33

You didn't miss anything guys, I watched for about 20 minutes but I didn't hear a thing....

Bra Bizza
02 Dec 2008 22:33

they had Bhuti from YCL and this boring dude from Congress of the Angry People.

they were asked to comment on their positions with regard to certain issues such as crime, education, economy etc and the angry dude kept on repeating everything that the YCL is saying or has been saying. There's nothin new i heard about this new formation. He was contradicting himself by saying they've not been in government so they cant state a certain position but at the same time on other issues he would say "for the past ten years, we've been advocating for this issue" and i was like WTF???

you didn't miss much my friend.

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 22:36

Tjo Bra B, at least you heard...I just kept staring at his mouth......

Bra Bizza
02 Dec 2008 22:43

this new formation needs intellectuals from TVSA to help it to build its agenda for young people

mjj
02 Dec 2008 22:44

The other day i heard Hlomla Dandala saying that for the past 14 years "they have trusted the ANC but the ANC has broken the trust of the people by doing unconstitutional things".......Yazi i was WTF is this man on about? Being articulate and having been educated to good schools doesn;t make one intelligent yazi......

ANyway i miss my friend Julius......

mjj
02 Dec 2008 22:50

Bra Bizza ungakulinge......Sobza is already a COPE member and i don't need you to join those people assemblief tu!!!!

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 22:52

Hlomla is in love with the sound of his voice shame....

mjj
02 Dec 2008 22:54

Hayi he is yazi.......he had a nerve to say that Zuma has no morals....Ga sies, how many children does he(Hlomla) have??????


Let me take cover before i get killed........

Bra Bizza
02 Dec 2008 22:57

lol....no i know imvelaphi yam' so i wont be confused by what i felt about recent developments.....i think this country needs a strong opposition cause i'm against a one-party state....so i thought they would bring something new to the table but its all about personal ambition...no new policy or new direction i'm hearing from these guys as for uHlomla.....he broke my trust and of the people by making babies all over the place...i wonder what would be Ms Mda's take on that

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 22:58

mjj, lusanda on sabc2

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 23:01

<<<he had a nerve to say that Zuma has no morals>>> Hlomla said that??? But isn't he the same one who was saying his personal life shouldn't be brought into this political thing? Why is he doing the same with JZ then? Bayafana maan....

LOL @ Congress of Angry People......I'm tryna figure out why that's COPE

(Lusanda's song is so boring)

Bra Bizza
02 Dec 2008 23:10

@BS...cause they've been classified as people who didn't have their way in Polokwane so now they are angry...hence the congress of the angry people

mjj
02 Dec 2008 23:42

yes they are Congress of Angry People.......

Sobza
03 Dec 2008 07:00

African Nonsensical Confusion. Why am I not surprised. You are bitter maan. U need a shower guys and don't forget go tsasa baby oil and I will take you 2 the villages far away from your kids and we will kill for....

Bra Bizza
02 Dec 2008 22:12

tjo...what a boring debate....i think Mjj's friend would have added some spark tonight....the spokeperson for the Congress of the Angry People needs some political education

mjj
02 Dec 2008 22:15

Bra B i didn't watch the show, my that girl hasn't impressed me yet...she talks a lot of *bleep!* and she thinks she's intelligent.......

So what happened?

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 22:18

Yho Bra B! I was bored outta my skull (this saying reminds me of the party blog) and what was up with Buti having his arms folded the whole time?
Did he not want to be there or was it a way to handle nerves? 
I don't think that "thing" qualifies to be called a debate...we need another name for it.....

mjj
02 Dec 2008 22:20

What happened???????

Lady D
02 Dec 2008 22:21

DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO WATCH!

Dundubala
02 Dec 2008 22:30

The COPe's rep, is wrong. Anele & Madisha did not apologise.It is their spokesperson Phillip Dexter who apologised on their behalfs. Malema did apologise on COPe's favorite radio station 702.

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 22:33

You didn't miss anything guys, I watched for about 20 minutes but I didn't hear a thing....

Bra Bizza
02 Dec 2008 22:33

they had Bhuti from YCL and this boring dude from Congress of the Angry People.

they were asked to comment on their positions with regard to certain issues such as crime, education, economy etc and the angry dude kept on repeating everything that the YCL is saying or has been saying. There's nothin new i heard about this new formation. He was contradicting himself by saying they've not been in government so they cant state a certain position but at the same time on other issues he would say "for the past ten years, we've been advocating for this issue" and i was like WTF???

you didn't miss much my friend.

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 22:36

Tjo Bra B, at least you heard...I just kept staring at his mouth......

Bra Bizza
02 Dec 2008 22:43

this new formation needs intellectuals from TVSA to help it to build its agenda for young people

mjj
02 Dec 2008 22:44

The other day i heard Hlomla Dandala saying that for the past 14 years "they have trusted the ANC but the ANC has broken the trust of the people by doing unconstitutional things".......Yazi i was WTF is this man on about? Being articulate and having been educated to good schools doesn;t make one intelligent yazi......

ANyway i miss my friend Julius......

Brown Shuga
03 Dec 2008 07:55

Sobza, there is Zuma and there is the ANC. They are different, one is a person the other an organisation made up of millions of people. Zuma is president of the ANC, he is NOT the ANC. Mugabe is president of Zim but that doesn't mean all Zimbos love him and agree with everything he does.

Best-Achiever
03 Dec 2008 08:02

African Nonsensical Confusion. Why am I not surprised. You are bitter maan. U need a shower guys and don't forget go tsasa baby oil and I will take you 2 the villages far away from your kids and we will kill for....

do you real want to confirm that this is the "Congress Of The Angry People"

mjj
02 Dec 2008 22:50

Bra Bizza ungakulinge......Sobza is already a COPE member and i don't need you to join those people assemblief tu!!!!

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 22:52

Hlomla is in love with the sound of his voice shame....

lepogo
03 Dec 2008 08:07

This name calling-trading of insults and intolerence merely remnds me that we are in Africa-and its oh so easy for such to degenerate into a full scale civil war-

Very nice people.Keep it up.

And prove to everyone that Africa is indeed a matchbox away from madness

mjj
02 Dec 2008 22:54

Hayi he is yazi.......he had a nerve to say that Zuma has no morals....Ga sies, how many children does he(Hlomla) have??????


Let me take cover before i get killed........

Bra Bizza
02 Dec 2008 22:57

lol....no i know imvelaphi yam' so i wont be confused by what i felt about recent developments.....i think this country needs a strong opposition cause i'm against a one-party state....so i thought they would bring something new to the table but its all about personal ambition...no new policy or new direction i'm hearing from these guys as for uHlomla.....he broke my trust and of the people by making babies all over the place...i wonder what would be Ms Mda's take on that

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 22:58

mjj, lusanda on sabc2

Brown Shuga
02 Dec 2008 23:01

<<<he had a nerve to say that Zuma has no morals>>> Hlomla said that??? But isn't he the same one who was saying his personal life shouldn't be brought into this political thing? Why is he doing the same with JZ then? Bayafana maan....

LOL @ Congress of Angry People......I'm tryna figure out why that's COPE

(Lusanda's song is so boring)

Bra Bizza
02 Dec 2008 23:10

@BS...cause they've been classified as people who didn't have their way in Polokwane so now they are angry...hence the congress of the angry people

mjj
02 Dec 2008 23:42

yes they are Congress of Angry People.......

Sobza
03 Dec 2008 07:00

African Nonsensical Confusion. Why am I not surprised. You are bitter maan. U need a shower guys and don't forget go tsasa baby oil and I will take you 2 the villages far away from your kids and we will kill for....

Brown Shuga
03 Dec 2008 07:55

Sobza, there is Zuma and there is the ANC. They are different, one is a person the other an organisation made up of millions of people. Zuma is president of the ANC, he is NOT the ANC. Mugabe is president of Zim but that doesn't mean all Zimbos love him and agree with everything he does.

Best-Achiever
03 Dec 2008 08:02

African Nonsensical Confusion. Why am I not surprised. You are bitter maan. U need a shower guys and don't forget go tsasa baby oil and I will take you 2 the villages far away from your kids and we will kill for....

do you real want to confirm that this is the "Congress Of The Angry People"

lepogo
03 Dec 2008 08:07

This name calling-trading of insults and intolerence merely remnds me that we are in Africa-and its oh so easy for such to degenerate into a full scale civil war-

Very nice people.Keep it up.

And prove to everyone that Africa is indeed a matchbox away from madness

Cande
03 Dec 2008 08:14

All politicians are angry bitter liars man, weather its COPE ANC DA whatever they all the same...

TheLady
03 Dec 2008 08:18

Nobody has convinced me to vote for them yet-right now am sticking with the devil that I know....the Shikota has bitter people who are just like the ANC.

Nothing worse than a bitter idiot!

Toxic
03 Dec 2008 08:27

you guys should have watched The Apprentice!

tha - bang
03 Dec 2008 08:29

did anyhone see hardtalk this morning on BBC world? they had Jodi From the human rights commission and the topic was around the ANC and next years election.
the world is watching ,judging by the severe questions that were posed to the man, we need to act accordingly.Not just our politicians even us the everyman on the street.People are fearing the worst for next years election and we should not give them ammunition nor let our politicians do the same

Toxic
03 Dec 2008 08:33

Jodi kollapen? Why is he the spokesperson for the elections? Where was Brigalia what what?

mjj
03 Dec 2008 08:35

Yes toxic i was watching....that girl who is a millionaire thinks she's better than anyone......she was doubting the black girl's ability to come up with a great ad, and when they won she was smiling - hypocrite.....

TheLady
03 Dec 2008 08:39

I wish Zuma can step down so that we can see what COPE is really about.

Toxic
03 Dec 2008 08:42

she was doubting the black girl's ability to come up with a great ad, and when they won she was smiling - hypocrite.....

nxxxx yazi. & during the presentation she was giving these disapproval looks like she wasn't part of the damn team! Was i happy when the team won!

What i don't get is why Trump wanted to fire Lenny for coming up with an idea. isn't the team leader ultimately responsible for the final product???

mjj
03 Dec 2008 08:52

I like Lenny, Trump should have fired that guy who thinks he's the best thing on earth....The only thing he's good at is styling gel and his huge hair......I like Lenny's confidence...but shame Lenny was not reponsible for the loss

Dimago
03 Dec 2008 09:31

you guys should have watched The Apprentice!
I did...and i felt so sorry for Roxanne, her team looked lost. But i think its that red head chick who was making the team rebel. I was so proud when she won!!!!

What i don't get is why Trump wanted to fire Lenny for coming up with an idea. isn't the team leader ultimately responsible for the final product???
Exactly Tox. But also the whole team were happy about the idea, they agreed. Lenny did not force them. It seems you get fired for being vocal on that show...

Khafo
03 Dec 2008 12:41

@ Dimago: It seems you get fired for being vocal on that show................i fully agree with you. Trump doesn't was to be challenged 'cause he owns and runs almost everything.

Khafo
03 Dec 2008 12:41

@ Dimago: It seems you get fired for being vocal on that show................i fully agree with you. Trump doesn't was to be challenged 'cause he owns and runs almost everything.

Sobza
03 Dec 2008 14:15

Damnit! I forgot to watch last nite.

Sobza
03 Dec 2008 14:15

Damnit! I forgot to watch last nite.

mjj
03 Dec 2008 14:33

But i think its that red head chick who was making the team rebel. I was so proud when she won!!!! - That chick is on some power trip yazi...... What's the name of the lawyer that was fired last week? I miss him.....now its only Lenny who will provide entertainment....

jmdladla
03 Dec 2008 20:36

it is very interesting to read all the comments, the show wasn't that bad.

There is no need for name calling, you can have different views and still be civil.

as for Anele's sister please, just because she HIV people doens't mean that they are not going to fight. Before we judge lets here the whole story.

There is a lot of bickering but no one is convincing me to vote for them. I do not belong to any political party but 1 thing for sure, i will vote 2009. 

realist
04 Dec 2008 06:58

I have watched the show and I was not impressed with the YCL. I expected that from the YCL guy. On the question of education, his reply was that it is not important until such time it is provided for free. COPE's answer was impressive. He said that in this century that we are in there should be no excuse for one not to have an education.

On the whole COPE guy did outsmart the YCL and THAT is my opinion. 3rd degree should not waste any of the viewer’s time by inviting the YCL to the show to debate issues since they are not contesting the elections on their own.

Come Dec 16 and see which leaders are chosen and which policies come out then from the COPE and I will judge them on that.

Hayi he is yazi.......he had a nerve to say that Zuma has no morals....
Does he?
This name calling-trading of insults and intolerence merely remnds me that we are in Africa-and its oh so easy for such to degenerate into a full scale civil war- 

And I thought this issue was put to rest. Just shows you how politics can raise someone’s emotions. 

The COPe's rep, is wrong. Anele & Madisha did not apologise.It is their spokesperson Phillip Dexter who apologised on their behalfs. Malema did apologise on COPe's favorite radio station 702. 

He was pushed to apologise. If you think the apology was honest why did it take Winnie to apologise on Malema’s behalf to the Human rights organisation? 

@ Cande and mjj: Thanks for the clarification. 

All politicians are angry bitter liars man, weather its COPE ANC DA whatever they all the same...
Quiet right


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